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In this issue:

RE: FTE 97up - 35" tires on 99 Superduty
FTE 97up - Superchip report
FTE 97up - "Super" Duty?
FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply
RE: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply
RE: FTE 97up - Superchip report
FTE 97up - 99 f-150 4.6L
RE: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply
FTE 97up - PSD Fuel Filter
Re: FTE 97up - PSD Fuel Filter
Re: FTE 97up - 35" tires on 99 Superduty
Re: FTE 97up - Superchip report
Re: FTE 97up - "Super" Duty?
Re: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply
Re: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply
Re: FTE 97up - Superchip report
Re: FTE 97up - 35" tires on 99 Superduty
FTE 97up - re: about to go insane
Re: FTE 97up - re: about to go insane
Re: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply
Re: FTE 97up - re: about to go insane
Re: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply
Re: FTE 97up - re: about to go insane
Re: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 06:17:44 -0500
From: "Strukel, Mike"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 35" tires on 99 Superduty

Mike,


You may be able to fit 35" tires on your Superduty if you shim you front
bumper out an inch to inch and a half. I am running 35x12.50 BFG Mud
Terrains on mine, but I installed the 2" Superlift in the front. If they
don't fit, an alternative would be the 295/75R16 BFGs. They are
33.5x10.50s. I have seen these on a few Superduties and they look pretty
good.


Mike Strukel
99 F250 SD SC, v10, 2"Superlift, 35x12.50 BFG Mud Terrains, Superchipped
V10

- -----Original Message-----
From: Mike Ruth [mailto:xplorit erols.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 8:31 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 97up - 35" tires on 99 Superduty


Howdy all!
Has anyone put 35x12,50x16.5 tires on their stock 99 f-250/350 4X4??? I
want to know if I really need to raise the front or can I hold off
awhile untill the funds build back up. I do have the heavy service
front end and/or the snow plow pkg, which has the heavier springs(I
believe). Any input would be great! Thanks for all the other
informative posts too. See ya.
Mike
(Baltimore, MD)
P.S. Any other truck owners in the immeadiate area?

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 06:29:50 -0500
From: "Strukel, Mike"
Subject: FTE 97up - Superchip report

last weekend, I installed my Superchip in my 99 F250 V10. I was a
little skeptical about spending that kind of money on a performance chip,
but I did quite a bit of research on it and decided to give it a try.
So.....After the 1st 3 days and 1st tank of gas, I would have to say that
it was money well spent! the power increase was VERY noticeable. Before
the Superchip, I was unable to spin the tires on pavement (remember I have
35" Mud Terrains) and now I can easily do that! Acceleration was
significantly increased at all speeds. I will be towing my boat this
weekend ( about 4000lbs) so I will see what kind of a difference it makes.

I also checked my mileage on this 1st tank and I got 13mpg in town! I
always get 11 - 11.5 in town, and 13 - 14 on the highway. So I did see
the 2 mpg increase that I was told to expect! So far, I am quite
satisfied. In fact, In a month or two, I may order a Superchip for my
wifes 98 Explorer too.


Mike Strukel

99F250 SD, SC, 2 " Superlift, 35x12.50 BFG Mud Terrains, Supechipped V10
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:11:31 -0400
From: "Simons, Clayton"
Subject: FTE 97up - "Super" Duty?

Vaughn,

While these trucks are strong, there are some weak points that unfortunately
are in the front of the vehicle. Unless you have a custom underbelly guard
installed up front there are a number of things exposed to protruding
objects between the tires. For instance, the drag link is on the front side
of the axle and has no protection, I'll bet you hit this and that would
definitely cause steering wheel realignment. This is a hefty piece of
equipment though and that stump/tree would've had to be quite heavy. Also
note that there are cooling lines that come from the radiator area just
under the bumper. These puppies are very vulnerable so when "crawling" over
stuff bear that in mind. Hope this helps.

Clayton
99' 250XLT SD PSD SC 4x4


I own a 99 F250 SD SC SB XLT 4X4 5.4.
But I also drive one as my work vehicle
( Township Parks Dept.).
Its a 99 F350 standard cab 4X4 7.3 PSD.
One day we were "offroading" in one of the parks
on a trail that goes way back in the boonies
and we hit a log laying in the trail end on.
Now we were going approx. 3-5 mph.
When we hit said log the truck came to an abrupt
stop while spinning the steering wheel out of
my supervisors hand. After which the steering wheel
"spokes" that were at 3 and 9 o'clock are now at
1 and 7 o'clock. I can't believe a fairly minor
hit would knock the steering off that much if at
all. What actually spun or got jared from its
stock position??

Thanks
Vaughn

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:58:13 -0400
From: GEORGE CROLL
Subject: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply

Keep the review coming. Sounds like something I might try if it tows well.
George Croll
EPA-OAR-ARD
(202)564-0162
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:30:21 -0500
From: "Strukel, Mike"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply

For those of you with Diesels, you may want to consider this Superchip.
I have a friend who installed one and it really made a big differenece on
that truck. The gain is 50hp and 100ft/lbs torque! That is a huge gain.
The dealer that I bought my truck from is installing a ton of the Superchips
even before they deliver the trucks.

his words were "You are a fool if you do not take advantage of this on the
diesel"

For info, take a look at www.superchips.com


Mike Strukel

- -----Original Message-----
From: GEORGE CROLL [mailto:CROLL.GEORGE epamail.epa.gov]
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 7:58 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply


Keep the review coming. Sounds like something I might try if it tows well.
George Croll
EPA-OAR-ARD
(202)564-0162
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:36:39 -0500
From: "Don Marsee"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Superchip report

Good to hear from another V10 owner with a Superchip. I installed mine this
past weekend as well. So far so great. The improved shifting and better
acceleration are what I can report to this point. I haven't used a tank of
gas yet - I'll find some reason to use the gas this weekend - and then I'll
report any MPG changes.

Take Care,

_________________________________________________________________________
Don in Nashville
'99 F-250 SuperDuty SuperCab w/ 8' box, Woodland Green, V10, Auto, 4WD ORP,
Towing Pkg. & Mirrors
Additions: Superchip, Chrome Nerf Bars, LINE-X bedliner, Ventvisor Window
deflectors, Bugflector II
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:48:15 EDT
From: TRITON46L aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 f-150 4.6L

Hey, how is everyone.
I just got back from omaha, nebraska this weekend. finally got married.
we took my new 99 f-150 4.6L v-8 sc 3.55 open axle. with just over 3,000
mi, this truck runs great. i ran the trip up there going between 75-90, a
pretty big speed difference, through the traffic. the truck was awesome,
like any new truck should be, but i thought maybe something may go wrong if
it is the first time it's going 1000 mi at th speed i went at. no problems
at all.
i think that the trip actually broke the engine and drivetrain in even
better. before it wouldn't spin the tires on pavement, but now i can turn
the truck almost sideways if i stab the gas. not that i want a sports car
image of truck, but i like to know i have the power there.

the truck has the sport package, p275/70r16 i think. they're goodyear gt II
they say it's a soft rubber tire and it won't squeel on pavement because it's
meant for traction, but they'll squeel now.

thanks for the time to read this
Bill
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:55:24 -0500
From: "Don Marsee"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply

Here is great resource for Superchip info. He is a distributor and he will
work with you.
Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mailto:mtroyer compuserve.com

Ask him about discounts and he'll tell you what you need to do.

Later,
_________________________________________________________________________
Don in Nashville
'99 F-250 SuperDuty SuperCab w/ 8' box, Woodland Green, V10, auto, 4WD ORP,
Towing Pkg. & Mirrors
Additions: Superchip, Chrome Nerf Bars, LINE-X bedliner, Ventvisor Window
deflectors, Bugflector II
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:29:39 -0500
From: "Alex Levinson"
Subject: FTE 97up - PSD Fuel Filter

Can anyone tell me how often you have to service the fuel filter on a PSD?
Should it be drained or replaced (If you can drain it)?

I'm trying to build my diesel knowledge.

Thanks,

Alex

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:21:12 -0700
From: johny
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - PSD Fuel Filter

I drain mine every oil change (3,000 miles) and change the filter at 15,000
mile intervals.
Have 22,000 so far.

For Parts:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dieselpage.com/

For boatloads of ford Diesel info: (forums sectio)
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford -diesel. com/

Alex Levinson wrote:

> Can anyone tell me how often you have to service the fuel filter on a PSD?
> Should it be drained or replaced (If you can drain it)?
>
> I'm trying to build my diesel knowledge.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alex
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:03:55 -0700
From: johny
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 35" tires on 99 Superduty

I have a friend with a 99 CC 4x4 XLT short bed. PSD. He runs 295/75/16
Goodrich AT on 16x8 weld wheels. It barely rubs on on the inner plastic
fenderwell back by where the ABS connector is (if not used).

He indicates, he could pull back the fenderwell to get more clearance if needed.

The 295's are probably the max unlifted/unmodified.

Here's a hard to see picture.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford -diesel. com/photos/images/sd21.jpg

Strukel, Mike wrote:

> Mike,
>
> You may be able to fit 35" tires on your Superduty if you shim you front
> bumper out an inch to inch and a half. I am running 35x12.50 BFG Mud
> Terrains on mine, but I installed the 2" Superlift in the front. If they
> don't fit, an alternative would be the 295/75R16 BFGs. They are
> 33.5x10.50s. I have seen these on a few Superduties and they look pretty
> good.
>
> Mike Strukel
> 99 F250 SD SC, v10, 2"Superlift, 35x12.50 BFG Mud Terrains, Superchipped
> V10
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Ruth [mailto:xplorit erols.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 8:31 PM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 97up - 35" tires on 99 Superduty
>
> Howdy all!
> Has anyone put 35x12,50x16.5 tires on their stock 99 f-250/350 4X4??? I
> want to know if I really need to raise the front or can I hold off
> awhile untill the funds build back up. I do have the heavy service
> front end and/or the snow plow pkg, which has the heavier springs(I
> believe). Any input would be great! Thanks for all the other
> informative posts too. See ya.
> Mike
> (Baltimore, MD)
> P.S. Any other truck owners in the immeadiate area?
>
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:37:30 4
From: "Vaughn (VDB)"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Superchip report

What octane do you need after installing
said chip? And is there going to be pinging
problems like with some dodge engines I heard
about?


Vaughn




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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:41:49 4
From: "Vaughn (VDB)"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - "Super" Duty?

Hi Clayton,

Actually the log was hit with the passenger
side tire. (straight on) It never hit any suspension/steering
parts. Which is why I thought it weird that it
would knock it out so much.

Thanks
Vaughn





Vaughn,

While these trucks are strong, there are some weak points that
unfortunately are in the front of the vehicle. Unless you have
a custom underbelly guard installed up front there are a number
of things exposed to protruding objects between the tires. For
instance, the drag link is on the front side of the axle and has
no protection, I'll bet you hit this and that would definitely
cause steering wheel realignment. This is a hefty piece of
equipment though and that stump/tree would've had to be quite
heavy. Also note that there are cooling lines that come from
the radiator area just under the bumper. These puppies are very
vulnerable so when "crawling" over stuff bear that in mind.
Hope this helps.

Clayton
99' 250XLT SD PSD SC 4x4


I own a 99 F250 SD SC SB XLT 4X4 5.4.
But I also drive one as my work vehicle
( Township Parks Dept.).
Its a 99 F350 standard cab 4X4 7.3 PSD.
One day we were "offroading" in one of the parks
on a trail that goes way back in the boonies
and we hit a log laying in the trail end on.
Now we were going approx. 3-5 mph.
When we hit said log the truck came to an abrupt
stop while spinning the steering wheel out of
my supervisors hand. After which the steering wheel
"spokes" that were at 3 and 9 o'clock are now at
1 and 7 o'clock. I can't believe a fairly minor
hit would knock the steering off that much if at
all. What actually spun or got jared from its
stock position??

Thanks
Vaughn

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Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 17:32:48 -0600
From: "Daniel M. Richmeier"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply

If these chips are so "super," why is it that FORD, with it's massive
engineering and research capabilities cannot develop a chip with the same
supposed improvements? Relatively speaking, what price might one pay for
pulling more horsepower and performance out of a stock engine?

Dan in Denver

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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:03:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Gaudenti
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply

I think one thing you have to pay for with the extra HP and torque is the
higher price of 92 octane fuel the Superchip requires. You do get
slightly higher MPG, but not enough to offset the higher cost of 92
octane.

I'm sure Ford could set-up the engines for more power using 92 octane, but
I think they would loose a good selling point (requires only 87 octane
fuel) if everybody else's truck can run on 87.

Danny


> If these chips are so "super," why is it that FORD, with it's massive
> engineering and research capabilities cannot develop a chip with the same
> supposed improvements? Relatively speaking, what price might one pay for
> pulling more horsepower and performance out of a stock engine?
>
> Dan in Denver
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:12:09 -0700
From: "Steve J. Hodson"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Superchip report

Have you had to use 92 octane fuel with your chip V10's? The superchip web
site I visited seemed to indicate this would be required
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From: Don Marsee
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 6:36 AM
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Superchip report


>Good to hear from another V10 owner with a Superchip. I installed mine
this
>past weekend as well. So far so great. The improved shifting and better
>acceleration are what I can report to this point. I haven't used a tank of
>gas yet - I'll find some reason to use the gas this weekend - and then I'll
>report any MPG changes.
>
>Take Care,
>
>_________________________________________________________________________
>Don in Nashville
>'99 F-250 SuperDuty SuperCab w/ 8' box, Woodland Green, V10, Auto, 4WD ORP,
>Towing Pkg. & Mirrors
>Additions: Superchip, Chrome Nerf Bars, LINE-X bedliner, Ventvisor Window
>deflectors, Bugflector II
>Coming Additions: Toolbox, K&N filters, Exhaust??, ...
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:47:10 -0400
From: "Freddy"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 35" tires on 99 Superduty

That is one bad-ass looking truck!
- ----- Original Message -----
From: johny
To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 1:03 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 35" tires on 99 Superduty


> I have a friend with a 99 CC 4x4 XLT short bed. PSD. He runs 295/75/16
> Goodrich AT on 16x8 weld wheels. It barely rubs on on the inner plastic
> fenderwell back by where the ABS connector is (if not used).
>
> He indicates, he could pull back the fenderwell to get more clearance if
needed.
>
> The 295's are probably the max unlifted/unmodified.
>
> Here's a hard to see picture.
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford -diesel. com/photos/images/sd21.jpg
>
> Strukel, Mike wrote:
>
> > Mike,
> >
> > You may be able to fit 35" tires on your Superduty if you shim you front
> > bumper out an inch to inch and a half. I am running 35x12.50 BFG Mud
> > Terrains on mine, but I installed the 2" Superlift in the front. If
they
> > don't fit, an alternative would be the 295/75R16 BFGs. They are
> > 33.5x10.50s. I have seen these on a few Superduties and they look
pretty
> > good.
> >
> > Mike Strukel
> > 99 F250 SD SC, v10, 2"Superlift, 35x12.50 BFG Mud Terrains,
Superchipped
> > V10
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Ruth [mailto:xplorit erols.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 8:31 PM
> > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: FTE 97up - 35" tires on 99 Superduty
> >
> > Howdy all!
> > Has anyone put 35x12,50x16.5 tires on their stock 99 f-250/350 4X4??? I
> > want to know if I really need to raise the front or can I hold off
> > awhile untill the funds build back up. I do have the heavy service
> > front end and/or the snow plow pkg, which has the heavier springs(I
> > believe). Any input would be great! Thanks for all the other
> > informative posts too. See ya.
> > Mike
> > (Baltimore, MD)
> > P.S. Any other truck owners in the immeadiate area?
> >
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 19:18:42 -0600
From: "Randy Kindler"
Subject: FTE 97up - re: about to go insane

Original Message: I Just got rear ended again today.


I got rear-ended last Friday by a VW Passat. He hit me really hard. He was
doing 45 - 50 Mph, and I had just started moving. The fact that I had some
forward momentum probably saved a lot of damage. Anyway, I looked in my
mirror, and saw this VW just mashed, dripping fluids, and steaming. I got
out and looked at my truck, and all that was wrong was my Billet Receiver
cover was broken, and the bracket for the electrical connector for the
trailer was bent. I just got off the phone with his insurance agent. The
estimate for my truck was $480, which includes a new bumper. (It was
scratched, but not bent). The damage to the VW was over $4500. I normally
drive my Mystique to work, but it had a flat tire that day, so I drove my
truck. I guess you are right about being unlucky to be rear-ended, but in my
opinion, you were lucky to be rear ended in your truck. Sorry for the long
post.
Randy


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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:33:40 -0400
From: CnC
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - re: about to go insane

Thanks for the story about your accident. It again reassures me that it is
best that we drive in a heavy enough vehicle to ward off real harm/injuries
from an accident like this one.


At 07:18 PM 8/11/99 -0600, Randy Kindler wrote:
>Original Message: I Just got rear ended again today.
>
>
>I got rear-ended last Friday by a VW Passat. He hit me really hard. He was
>doing 45 - 50 Mph, and I had just started moving. The fact that I had some
>forward momentum probably saved a lot of damage. Anyway, I looked in my
>mirror, and saw this VW just mashed, dripping fluids, and steaming. I got
>out and looked at my truck, and all that was wrong was my Billet Receiver
>cover was broken, and the bracket for the electrical connector for the
>trailer was bent. I just got off the phone with his insurance agent. The
>estimate for my truck was $480, which includes a new bumper. (It was
>scratched, but not bent). The damage to the VW was over $4500. I normally
>drive my Mystique to work, but it had a flat tire that day, so I drove my
>truck. I guess you are right about being unlucky to be rear-ended, but in my
>opinion, you were lucky to be rear ended in your truck. Sorry for the long
>post.
>Randy
>
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 21:50:57 -0400
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply

Come-on, this has been discussed many time before. Think about it,
aftermarket chips change transmission shift points so gears engage "harder"
and "quicker" something that I like and many enthusiast like, but the
general population of Soccer Moms and Grandmoms do not want. Also,
upgrading with a chip advances the timing more (can make engine run a tad
hotter) requires high-octane gas, may not idle as smoothly, etc. Ford
designs it's chip for the "middle of the road" standard-issue Mr. and Mrs.
driver, NOT the "enthusiasts" that many of us are. Could Ford design a chip
with more "pep"?? Of course the could! Will they?? Not for standard
vehicles. On certain specialty vehicles, like the 150 lightning, I am sure
the chips get "tweaked" for more performance. Same goes for any aftermarket
performance item (headers, intake manifolds, air lockers, etc.)


Keith



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Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply


>If these chips are so "super," why is it that FORD, with it's massive
>engineering and research capabilities cannot develop a chip with the same
>supposed improvements? Relatively speaking, what price might one pay for
>pulling more horsepower and performance out of a stock engine?
>
>Dan in Denver
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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:29:58 EDT
From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - re: about to go insane

and that story is why the safety gurus, insurance companies,and the Feds are
bitchin about those who can afford to drive big SUVs and Trucks and actually
do that dastardly deed. The folks who bought into the small econo vehicle
thing suddenly find themselves outgunned on the highway. Rollover/handling
problems aside, I still want structure between me and the little pocket
rocket that's weaving in and out of traffic while trying to talk on their
cell phone and control a kid that wants out of that car seat.

John G
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:04:59 -0400
From: "Craig Deman"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply

Then here is a solution. Ford should make a truck with 2 or even 3
superchips have a button in the truck to select which road condition(s)
favor which chip. If you plan to go off-roading then select the chip which
performs on that condition. Have one set for economy highway driving and
one for pulling...

Seems to me it could be done...



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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 02:39:18 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - re: about to go insane

In a message dated 99-08-11 21:33:40 EDT, you write:

no kidding on this one 2 chevy full size new body 1500 pickup and suburban
the family has had, i got smacked at a light in mine(newbumper) by a escort
about 25-30mph , her front clip was a mess. no injury to me, she was a bit
messed up.

the suburban was hit by a bonneville on a left turn. almost totaled the car.
The burban got a bumper and grill.

ahh... i will take a tank now, i mean a Excursion.


RS


Date: 99-08-11 21:33:40 EDT
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Thanks for the story about your accident. It again reassures me that it is
best that we drive in a heavy enough vehicle to ward off real harm/injuries
from an accident like this one.


At 07:18 PM 8/11/99 -0600, Randy Kindler wrote:
>Original Message: I Just got rear ended again today.
>
>
>I got rear-ended last Friday by a VW Passat. He hit me really hard. He was
>doing 45 - 50 Mph, and I had just started moving. The fact that I had some
>forward momentum probably saved a lot of damage. Anyway, I looked in my
>mirror, and saw this VW just mashed, dripping fluids, and steaming. I got
>out and looked at my truck, and all that was wrong was my Billet Receiver
>cover was broken, and the bracket for the electrical connector for the
>trailer was bent. I just got off the phone with his insurance agent. The
>estimate for my truck was $480, which includes a new bumper. (It was
>scratched, but not bent). The damage to the VW was over $4500. I normally
>drive my Mystique to work, but it had a flat tire that day, so I drove my
>truck. I guess you are right about being unlucky to be rear-ended, but in my
>opinion, you were lucky to be rear ended in your truck. Sorry for the long
>post.
>Randy
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 02:39:14 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Superchip report -Reply

In a message dated 99-08-11 19:42:53 EDT, you write:


they want to keep warratny claims to a min, and plus someone else has to make
money!


RS

Date: 99-08-11 19:42:53 EDT
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If these chips are so "super," why is it that FORD, with it's massive
engineering and research capabilities cannot develop a chip with the same
supposed improvements? Relatively speaking, what price might one pay for
pulling more horsepower and performance out of a stock engine?

Dan in Denver

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