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97up-list-digest Sunday, August 1 1999 Volume 02 : Number 205



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RE: FTE 97up - question???
Re: FTE 97up - 2000 GM/Dodge
Re: FTE 97up - 2000 GM/Dodge
Re: FTE 97up - question???
Re: FTE 97up - question???
Re: FTE 97up - 2000 GM/Dodge

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 07:35:18 -0400
From: "William Suarez"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - question???

Bill,

How big is the boat trailer? Does it have electric brakes?

A four pin harness includes left and right directionals, brakes, ground and
tail lamps.

When you move up to a 6 ping (or 7 pin) they add a 12V charge line for the
trailer battery, a line for the electric brakes (usually blue) and a "spare"
that is typically ununsed.

You should be able to go to any local source that installs hitches, even a
U-Haul, and pickup the correct 4 pin to 6 or 7 ping adapater for under
$10.00.

The 4 pin truck side is standard, if you can't match the trailer side check
with the trailer manufacturer themselves.

Regards,

Bill Suarez

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i know this is off the subject about trucks, but does anyone know about 4
pin
wiring harnesses for trailers? i have an '83 glassmate fishing boat. the
trailer has a 6 pin wire harness. my 99 f-150 only has a four pin harness.
what's the difference. i've been told that trailers only need four wires.
i
need to buy an adapter or a male harness for the trailer. the problem is
that the wires are all in maroon sheathing and i can't tell which ones go
where. the harness is marked with letters on the trailer portion of the
harness. i don't want to connect wires to the wrong holes in the new
harness
and possibly mess something up.

please, any help would greatly be appreciated

thanks, Bill
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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 07:47:08 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 2000 GM/Dodge

Thanks! It looks like their trying to play catch-up on the frills, but I
thought they might use the new SOHC engine from Jeep to help them catch up
on power and mileage.

Nathan

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> Hi Nathan,
>
> Sorry for being late in response to your request, been out of town
> again. Here's something I kept from the Dodge list with some commentary
> sprinkled in from one of the Dodge list "Experts" (not me)
> As you can see, in a couple of areas, they're playing
> "catch up" with Ford.
>
> Best Regards,
> Robert


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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:08:31 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 2000 GM/Dodge

In a message dated 7/30/99 11:52:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
RAMWORKER aol.com writes:


i never did understand why you would need clearance lamps on a dodge 1500,
I mean how much can they really pull. Something else to put a bulb in.

RS

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Hi Nathan,

Sorry for being late in response to your request, been out of town
again. Here's something I kept from the Dodge list with some commentary
sprinkled in from one of the Dodge list "Experts" (not me)
As you can see, in a couple of areas, they're playing
"catch up" with Ford.

Best Regards,
Robert

In a message dated 7/29/99 12:11:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
unionaut adiis.net writes:

> Has anyone found any information as to what changes are being made on the
> 2000 GM/Dodge trucks and SUVs?

WallyJJ aol.com wrote:
>
> I found this info from a dealer web page. Sounds legit. - Jamie
>
> New For 2000 Models
> We have some exciting information on equipment changes for the 2000 models.
>
> Exterior
> New Trailer Tow Mirrors - folding, flag mounted

If these are the Mexican extended mirrors, they are worth it - much
better than the metal "X-mount" mirrors that have been used for decades,
and similar to the Ford Super Duty towing mirrors.

> Clearance Lamps no longer available on 1500s
> New Wheels
>
> Interior
> Tachometer is now standard w/low washer fluid indicator
> New SLT+ Interior Package includes:
> heated driver/ Passenger leather seats with Ram head logo, power
> driver/passenger seats, rear underseat storage, AM/FM/Cass/CD radio,
steering
> wheel mounted radio controls, keyless entry, security alarm, fog lamps,
> travel conv. Package
>
> Functional
> Improved Brake and Suspension System on 2500/3500

Listed as an On-Hold/Date to be determined option is the Snow Plow
package with Cummins-powered 2500/3500 4x4 Quad cabs. Supposedly, 25/35
trucks with this combination will get a 5200 pound front end over the
standard 4850. I'd order that option just for the suspension upgrade,
whether I plowed or not.

> Off-Road Group (AWL) only on 1500 4x4 SWB models
> Group includes: HD Service Group, limited slip differential, unique fascia,
> A/T tires, an unique 17" aluminum wheels
>
> New Exterior Colors
> PRV Dark Garnet Red (replaces Metallic Red)
> PLT Sierra Bronze (replaces Emerald Green)
> PBT Patriot Blue (replaces Deep Amethyst)

Patriot Blue is a beautiful color (deep royal blue) - had it been
available in 1996, I would not have gotten black on my Ram.

Two other very nice additions for 2000:
- LT265/75R16E tires optional on 2500s, over the standard 245/75
- LT235/85R16E tires standard on 3500s, replacing the 215/85

That second change will give 3500 owners a LOT more flexibility in
choosing the brand of tire that suits their needs. There are so few
tires that come in an E-range 215/85 - I think I may have used all but
one of the A/T tires in that size, although I must admit the tires I
have now, Bridgestone M773 commercial all-terrains, have been incredible
- no cupping, no outside rib wear in 5 months so far.

KC Jackson
1996 Ram 3500 Club 4x4 Laramie SLT Cummins

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 11:08:28 EDT
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Subject: Re: FTE 97up - question???

In a message dated 7/31/99 1:27:24 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
TRITON46L aol.com writes:

if you cant find out in manual or from fomoco dealer , get your test light
and a friend. That will tell you what is what easily.

RS


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i know this is off the subject about trucks, but does anyone know about 4
pin
wiring harnesses for trailers? i have an '83 glassmate fishing boat. the
trailer has a 6 pin wire harness. my 99 f-150 only has a four pin harness.
what's the difference. i've been told that trailers only need four wires.
i
need to buy an adapter or a male harness for the trailer. the problem is
that the wires are all in maroon sheathing and i can't tell which ones go
where. the harness is marked with letters on the trailer portion of the
harness. i don't want to connect wires to the wrong holes in the new
harness
and possibly mess something up.

please, any help would greatly be appreciated

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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:39:43 PDT
From: "Frank Spor"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - question???

Bill,
Here is the generic solution to your question...Go to
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.championtrailers.com/brkart.html#elec brake wiring dia

The diagrams will steer you to the spots, and colors....
www.championtrailers.com, will sell you the parts.

The last one that I bought was somewhere around $25.00 for a
pre-made conversion plug.

Good luck.

Frank


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Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 18:07:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Douglas R. Floyd"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 2000 GM/Dodge

>
> In a message dated 7/30/99 11:52:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> RAMWORKER aol.com writes:
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>
> i never did understand why you would need clearance lamps on a dodge 1500,....


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