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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Service Manuals
FTE 97up - Tow/High Pressure Oil Pump/Gauges
Re: FTE 97up - First BIG Problem with 99.5 PSD
Re: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors
FTE 97up - Bed Box
Re: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors
Re: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors
FTE 97up - 2000 Prices.
FTE 97up - Horsepower on 2000 Super Duty's
Re: FTE 97up - First BIG Problem with 99.5 PSD -Reply
FTE 97up - alignment Q for Nathan
Re: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors
FTE 97up - Knocking & Pinging
Re: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors
Re: FTE 97up - alignment Q for Nathan
FTE 97up - Wheels
FTE 97up - F-150 themostat
FTE 97up - F-150 Clutch Pedal
FTE 97up - 2000 F-150 Prices
Re: FTE 97up - Bed Box
Re: FTE 97up - Service Manuals
Re: FTE 97up - 2000 F-150 Prices
Re: FTE 97up - First BIG Problem with 99.5 PSD
FTE 97up - Overdrive

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 07:47:30 -0400
From: Dean Baruffi
Subject: FTE 97up - Service Manuals

Since I will be trading in my 1997 F-250HD 4x4 SC for a Y2K F-150 2WD SC, I
won't be needing the service manuals any more. If any on is interested in
these, give me a call or email.
They are the ones from Helms.

1. 1997 Service Manual(s) F-250HD, 350, Super Duty. ($38.00 + shipping)

2. 1997 Truck Electrical and Vacuum troubleshooting manual. ($12.00 +
shipping)

3. 1996 Power Control/Emission Diagnosis (On board Diagnostics I, OBDI)
Car/truck
(Note: This is the 1996 manual as the 1997 manual was for the new body
style LD)
($60.00 + shipping. This is also
includes Diesels)


Dean Baruffi (203-432-0243)
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 06:24:38 PDT
From: "Scott Matus"
Subject: FTE 97up - Tow/High Pressure Oil Pump/Gauges

Charles, I stopped using the damn HOOK Trucks long ago. I A L W A Y S use
flatbed tow vehicle services. I had a car with uni-body towed by a hook
once, WOW the damage they can cause. My F350's rear bumper from the factory
looked skewed too, I just adjusted out what I could.

As far as the cleanup. Pressure washing will spread the oil around and
reduce the "visible" deposits, you will never get the thing entirely clean,
short of disassembly. Engine Bright degreaser will help some.

The High Pressure Injection Pump puts out between 3000 and 10,000 psi.
This is the pressurized oil that actuates your diesel injectors. It pulls
the feed for this pump directly from the Main oil pump. Unless your main
oil pump was starved this would never be indicated by your instrument panel.
So if you say this had happened over a few minutes it would spray a
significant amount of oil. Yes, this high pressure pump will function until
the high pressure switch senses a large drop in pressure (below 3000 psi),
sending a signal to the PCM. As for your engine oil pressure gauge,
remember that it is not a gauge, but an indicator just like an idiot light.
It will always show the same position on the gauge. You have a pressure
switch sender for your oil pressure gauge, not a variable pressure sending
unit. So we are all being duped by Ford thinking we have full
instrumentation.

I hope this helps,

Scott.
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:00:17 -0500
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - First BIG Problem with 99.5 PSD

Nathan,

Thanks for the your response. I've heard from others that the bumper
misalignment is
a common problem - holes being bigger than bolts, so I'll try to fixed it
myself
by losening
the bolts and applying some pressure to get it straight.

What about clean-up? I just spoke a minute ago with the Service person and
he
said
that Ford won't pay for engine "detailing". But they would clean it up the
best
they
could, which didn't sound like I should expect very much.

Charles.


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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:52:32 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - First BIG Problem with 99.5 PSD

They should clean it, but You'll probaly need to take it back a time or two,
it is hard to get all the oil out in one washing. After it dries, you'll
probably find more spots that need cleaned.

Nathan

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Charles Abraham
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - First BIG Problem with 99.5 PSD


> Nathan,
>
> Thanks for the your response. I've heard from others that the bumper
> misalignment is
> a common problem - holes being bigger than bolts, so I'll try to fixed it
myself
> by losening
> the bolts and applying some pressure to get it straight.
>
> What about clean-up? I just spoke a minute ago with the Service person and
he
> said
> that Ford won't pay for engine "detailing". But they would clean it up the
best
> they
> could, which didn't sound like I should expect very much.
>
> Charles.
>
>
> Union Auto wrote:
>
> > The High Pressure Oil pump for the HEUI injection is in the area you
> > described and I'd guess your leak is from that (hence the high volume of
oil
> > sprayed out without changing the engine oil pressure gauge, also would
make
> > the engine loose power). As for getting the best care for your truck,
it
> > all depends, we take MUCH better care of the vehicles that we sell than
ones
> > that come from out of town, but if someone traveling through has a
problem
> > that's a different story. As for towing you need to call Roadside
> > assistance to get reimbursed. The dealer can't help you with that, Its
a
> > different division that is very friendly to customers but treats dealers
> > very poorly. As for the back bumper that would be the towing companies
> > responsibility. They should have insurance to cover this.
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Charles Abraham
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 1999 11:12 AM
> > Subject: FTE 97up - First BIG Problem with 99.5 PSD
> >
> > > Hit an oil gusher on the drive home from work yesterday.
> > > No it wasn't in an oil field, it under my hood. Started to
> > > smell oil - but there were a lot of trucks on the road. Saw
> > > smoke out the back window - but thought it was dust from
> > > the gravel roads. Then the truck began to hesitate and lose
> > > power, that's when I knew there was something very wrong.
> > >
> > > Funny thing is I looked at the gauges - all normal, with no
> > > idiot lights now on. I pulled over and put the truck in park.
> > > came around the back end and saw the rear bumper covered
> > > with oil and through the wheel well saw the differential also
> > > with oil heading up the drive shaft toward the front. Who no,
> > > could it be the oil filter or oil drain valve that was leaking, see
> > > I did my first oil change myself. So I dropped down and looked
> > > under but both were fine. But by the transmission bell/horn, oil was
> > > streaming down. I next opened the hood and what a shock! My
> > > once spotless new engine was totally covered with oil. Every
> > > where there was dripping hot oil. I shut the engine off here.
> > >
> > > The leak appeared to be originating from beneath the black shroud
> > > that has the words "Turbo Diesel" on it. But I can't be sure because
> > > everything was like I said, dripping wet with oil.
> > >
> > > Anyway, had it towed to the nearest Ford dealership, it was after
hours
> > > so their service department was closed. By the way, my rear bumper now
> > > looks slightly up as a result of the tow ( what a weak bumper).
> > >
> > > Have three questions:
> > >
> > > One - will the warranty cover the extensive oil clean-up?
> > > Two - will it also reimburse me for the fifty dollar tow?
> > > Three - what about my "looking upward" back bumper?
> > >
> > > One for Nathan, will my truck get equal attention from this
> > > dealership - even though I didn't buy it there?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Charles.
> > >


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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 08:54:15 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors

The only color changes from 1999 to 2000:

Light Praire Tan and Dark Hunter Green deleted
Harvest Gold and Island Blue added.

So Dark Toreador Red should be available.

Nathan

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Don Francis
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 1:38 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors


> Hey folks, I'm ordering a Y2K F350 through the overseas military sales
> corporation (I'm sitting here in Bosnia, serving my country) and they
> are trying to tell me that It only comes in Oxford White for the 2000
> models! Good Grief! I wanted Toreador Red! Can someone shed some light
> on this and tell me if Ford has lost their minds and is only offering
> one color for the 2000 models?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Don
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 09:57:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Snodgrass
Subject: FTE 97up - Bed Box

I'm looking to put a diamond plate box in the bed of my 99 F150. Per the
instructions, it mounts by drilling holes into the rail caps and using
sheet metal screws. Since the Fords have the factory installed plastic
covers, I'm curious as to how others have done this. I was thinking of
just getting longer screws to make up for the thicker material. Please
respond privately, as I don't always monitor the digest.

Thanks
John
johns magicnet.net

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:07:54 -0400
From: "Kenneth J. Nagy"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors

Would these changes also apply to the F150 line?

Thanks,
Ken

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Union Auto
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors


> The only color changes from 1999 to 2000:
>
> Light Praire Tan and Dark Hunter Green deleted
> Harvest Gold and Island Blue added.
>
> So Dark Toreador Red should be available.
>
> Nathan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don Francis
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 1:38 AM
> Subject: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors
>
>
> > Hey folks, I'm ordering a Y2K F350 through the overseas military sales
> > corporation (I'm sitting here in Bosnia, serving my country) and they
> > are trying to tell me that It only comes in Oxford White for the 2000
> > models! Good Grief! I wanted Toreador Red! Can someone shed some light
> > on this and tell me if Ford has lost their minds and is only offering
> > one color for the 2000 models?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Don
> >
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:00:35 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors

NO, F-150 added Island Blue and Chestnut and Deleted Dark Toreador Red and
Teal.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth J. Nagy
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors


> Would these changes also apply to the F150 line?
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Union Auto
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 9:54 AM
> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors
>
>
> > The only color changes from 1999 to 2000:
> >
> > Light Praire Tan and Dark Hunter Green deleted
> > Harvest Gold and Island Blue added.
> >
> > So Dark Toreador Red should be available.
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Don Francis
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 1:38 AM
> > Subject: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors
> >
> >
> > > Hey folks, I'm ordering a Y2K F350 through the overseas military sales
> > > corporation (I'm sitting here in Bosnia, serving my country) and they
> > > are trying to tell me that It only comes in Oxford White for the 2000
> > > models! Good Grief! I wanted Toreador Red! Can someone shed some
light
> > > on this and tell me if Ford has lost their minds and is only offering
> > > one color for the 2000 models?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:02:40 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - 2000 Prices.

2000 Prices are starting to be released. They've announced everything but
F-Series and Windstar and expect those next week. Doesn't look like any big
suprises, Most trucks and SUV's went up a few hundred and cars stayed the
same or went down.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, inc


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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:01:05 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - Horsepower on 2000 Super Duty's

Got the specs on the 2000 SD's HP ratings

Power Stroke 235 HP 2600 and 500 ft/lb 1800
5.4L V-8 260 HP 4500 and 350 ft/lb 2500
6.8L V-10 310 HP 4250 and 425 ft/lb 3250

Nathan Bernard
Union auto, INc.


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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:06:55 -0400
From: GEORGE CROLL
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - First BIG Problem with 99.5 PSD -Reply

Personally I would pay to have the entire underside and engine bey of the truck steam cleaned. do the underside
while the vehicle on a lift somewhere and do it fast before the oil hardens into stuff that will not come off. Used car
dealers do this all the time tomake old cars look new in the engine compartment so your dealer should know a place
to get it done.
George Croll
EPA-OAR-ARD
(202)564-0162
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:11:47 -0400
From: Rob
Subject: FTE 97up - alignment Q for Nathan

Nathan... i have a 97 F150 SC 4x4 without the offroad package, which
basically gives the truck the same light suspension as a 4x2 and the
same "stance" as the 4x2. i have been having problems with alignments
and was wondering if the shops were going by the wrong specs. i have a
ford manual and it lists only 2 sets of specs, 4x2 and 4x4, but it makes
no reference whether the 4x4 applies to the offroad or the plain jane
4x4. there is obviously a big difference between the 2, especially the
wheel size and the height of the vehicle in general. but even the
alignment computers only have 2 sets of specs. is there a forgotten or
missing spec sheet out there or have the shops been correct to set up my
truck to the "in general" 4x4 specs?

rob in PA
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:21:58 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors

In a message dated 7/21/99 9:54:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
unionaut adiis.net writes:

i dont understand FoMoCo sometimes, everyone loves the Prarie Tan F250 i have
and the hunter green is quite nice too. Also take a look at some of the
other FMoCo wheel wells they all have similar lines.

RS


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The only color changes from 1999 to 2000:

Light Praire Tan and Dark Hunter Green deleted
Harvest Gold and Island Blue added.

So Dark Toreador Red should be available.

Nathan

----- Original Message -----
From: Don Francis
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 1:38 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors


> Hey folks, I'm ordering a Y2K F350 through the overseas military sales
> corporation (I'm sitting here in Bosnia, serving my country) and they
> are trying to tell me that It only comes in Oxford White for the 2000
> models! Good Grief! I wanted Toreador Red! Can someone shed some light
> on this and tell me if Ford has lost their minds and is only offering
> one color for the 2000 models?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Don
>
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:35:23 -0400
From: Andy
Subject: FTE 97up - Knocking & Pinging

Thanks for all the info. What was said here, and what the dealership told
me this morning, is very close. After talking to him, most of the trouble
seems to come whan I accelerate when I clear from stop and go traffic. Your
suggestions hit on the money. They went ahead and changed the Mass airflow
sensor, and covered all of the diagnostics under Ext. Service plan. I see
in the morning traffic if it helps any.

Thanks Again!



>
>Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 09:41:02 -0400
>From: "D'Amelio, Stephen M."
>Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Knocking & Pinging
>
>It's a long shot IMO, but carbon deposits in the
>combustion chamber will effectively reduce
>the size of the chamber. This will raise
>compression, producing pre-detonation (ping).
>
>I would try an inexpensive solution first. A
>good fuel additive (Chevron makes a highly regarded one)
>may break up the deposits and clean the chamber.
>
>Also, I don't believe in wasting money on higher
>octane fuel that does has no benefits for
>your engine. But, I will use a higher octane
>in the summer (especially when towing)
>since it will burn cooler. Another reason
>for pre-detonation is a hot running engine.
>
>(disclaimer: OK, OK, higher octane may
>not actually burn cooler, but the flash
>point is higher. you get the idea)
>
>
>Steve D'Amelio
>Systems Administrator
>CVS/Pharmacy
>1 CVS Drive
>Woonsocket, RI 02895
>401-765-1500 x3351 FAX 401-762-4607
>mailto:smdamelio cvs.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cvs.com
>
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>> Subject: FTE 97up - Knocking & Pinging
>>
>> Help...
>>
>> I have a 98' F-150 5.4 with 42,000 miles. About a month ago I started
>> noticing a knocking noise on acceleration. I use the recommended 87
>> octane
>> fuel. I changed brands to see if it was bad gas, and it stayed the same.
>> It is now gotten much worse. I called my dealership today, and they said
>> that it is normal. Said something about carbon deposits make the engine
>> do
>> that. As long as the check engine light does not come on, I'm o.k. To
>> help, they suggested that I either should use higher octane and ignore it,
>> or pay to have the injectors cleaned. It supposed to help remove those
>> deposits. I know that a higher octane might help, but if the engine is
>> knocking, something is not right. I'm supposed to have the work done on
>> Weds. so any help would be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Andy
>>
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>Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:31:17 -0400
>From: Scot Evanson
>Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Knocking & Pinging
>
>The terms are "pre-ignition" and/or "detonation". They are seperate
>problems. Detonation can cause pre-igintion.
>
>If detonation take place, it occurs during the third stage of
>combustion. It is caused by the rapidly burning flame front compressing
>the unburned
>part of the mixture to the point of self-iginition. This secondary wave
>front collides with the normal flame and makes an audible
>knock or pinging
>sound.
>
>Detonation harms the engine and decreases your performance in several
>ways. In extreme cases, pistons may shatter, cylinders
>burst, or cylinder
>heads crack. At times, these temps resulting from detonation may reach
>the point where the piston actually melts. Other effects of
>detonation may
>be: overheating of the engine, broken spark plugs, overloaded bearing,
>high fuel consumption, loss of power.
>
>The causes of detonation include:
>
> Lean air-fuel mixtures
> Fuel of too low octane rating.
> Ignition timing over advanced
> lugging the engine (gear is too high for the speed of the engine).
> Excessive carbon accumulation in the combustion chamber
>
>Pre ignition is the igniting of the fuel charge before the regular
>ignition spark. If the premature combustion is completed before the
>occurrence of
>the regular spark, there may be no identifying noise. However, if the
>regular ignition sparks follows shortly after the pre ignition
>occurs, there will
>be a pinging noise when the two flame fronts collide. Also, pre ignition
>can lead to detonation. These two types of abnormal
>combustion are closely
>linked and often it is difficult to distinguish between them.
>
>The main causes of pre ignition include:
>
> Carbon deposits that remain incandescent.
> Valves operating at higher than normal temp.
> Hot spots caused by defects in cooling system.
> Spark plugs that run too hot.
> Sharp edges in the combustion chamber.
> Detonation
>
>SAE
>
>
>
>"D'Amelio, Stephen M." wrote:
>>
>> It's a long shot IMO, but carbon deposits in the
>> combustion chamber will effectively reduce
>> the size of the chamber. This will raise
>> compression, producing pre-detonation (ping).
>>
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From: "Kenneth J. Nagy"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors

I agree. Hunter green *was* my first choice when I ordered my F150 SC 4x4.
Maybe I'll check out the Island blue.

Ken

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> In a message dated 7/21/99 9:54:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> unionaut adiis.net writes:
>
> i dont understand FoMoCo sometimes, everyone loves the Prarie Tan F250 i
have
> and the hunter green is quite nice too. Also take a look at some of the
> other FMoCo wheel wells they all have similar lines.
>
> RS
>
>
> Date: 7/21/99 9:54:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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> The only color changes from 1999 to 2000:
>
> Light Praire Tan and Dark Hunter Green deleted
> Harvest Gold and Island Blue added.
>
> So Dark Toreador Red should be available.
>
> Nathan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Don Francis
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 1999 1:38 AM
> Subject: FTE 97up - Y2K Colors
>
>
> > Hey folks, I'm ordering a Y2K F350 through the overseas military sales
> > corporation (I'm sitting here in Bosnia, serving my country) and they
> > are trying to tell me that It only comes in Oxford White for the 2000
> > models! Good Grief! I wanted Toreador Red! Can someone shed some
light
> > on this and tell me if Ford has lost their minds and is only offering
> > one color for the 2000 models?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Don
> >
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 13:10:34 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - alignment Q for Nathan

No the Off Road has bigger tires and different shocks but thats the only
difference. It aligns the same with or without the "Off Road".

Nathan
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Subject: FTE 97up - alignment Q for Nathan


>
> Nathan... i have a 97 F150 SC 4x4 without the offroad package, which
> basically gives the truck the same light suspension as a 4x2 and the
> same "stance" as the 4x2. i have been having problems with alignments
> and was wondering if the shops were going by the wrong specs. i have a
> ford manual and it lists only 2 sets of specs, 4x2 and 4x4, but it makes
> no reference whether the 4x4 applies to the offroad or the plain jane
> 4x4. there is obviously a big difference between the 2, especially the
> wheel size and the height of the vehicle in general. but even the
> alignment computers only have 2 sets of specs. is there a forgotten or
> missing spec sheet out there or have the shops been correct to set up my
> truck to the "in general" 4x4 specs?
>
> rob in PA
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:16:01 EDT
From: "Christian Bagley"
Subject: FTE 97up - Wheels

I have searched all over to find a 16" X 8" wheel for my 97 4X4 and everyone
is very pricy for them. Does anyone know of any decent looking rim that is
a good price? I would prefer a metallic looking rim, no painted rims or
wagon wheels. Does anyone have any suggestions? Or does anyone have any
wheels they want to sell?

Thanks,
Chris


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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 14:43:06 -0400
From: Dean Baruffi
Subject: FTE 97up - F-150 themostat

Anyone know what temperature thermostat is in the current F-150 with a 5.4L?

Anyone know where I can get a colder one?

Thanks.


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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:13:49 -0300
From: Mark MacDonald
Subject: FTE 97up - F-150 Clutch Pedal

Does anyone else have any problems with a rattling clutch pedal on any
f150's? I have a 98, and when I go over rough roads, I can hear a rattling
sound coming from under the dash... If I rest my foot over the clutch
pedal, I can feel something rattling in it/against it.... I looked under
the dash, and I cant see anything that may be causing it... The dealer told
me a month or so ago that they had someone who had the exact same problem,
and it was a bracket loose or something... When I took it in the other day,
they looked at it for 4 hours, and could not come up with the problem...
Any ideas on this one?
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:35:56 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - 2000 F-150 Prices

F-150 Stylesid Reg. Cab prices Retail invoice
120" Work series 4x2 15285 13916
120" XL 4x2 16220
14252
120" XLT 4x2 19205
16789
139" Work series 4x2 15575 14171
139" XL 4x2 16520
14507
139" XLT 4x2 19500
17040

120" Work series 4x4 18505 16749
120" XL 4x4 19560
17091
120" XLT 4x4 22620
19692
139" Work SEries 4x4 18795 17005
139" XL 4x4 19860
17346
139" XLT 4x4 22930
19956

120" XL Flareside 4x2 17230 15111
120" XLT Flareside 4x2 20215 17647
120" XL Flareside 4x4 20570 17949
120" XLT Flareside 4x4 23630 20551

DESTINATION AND DELIVERY 640 640


I'll try to get supercab and options posted Later.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, INc



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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:31:26 -0500
From: "Karl Nyhus"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Bed Box

> Someone wrote:
> Please respond privately, as I don't always
> monitor the digest.

... and deprive the rest of us who do "monitor the digest" of the answers?
Kind of defeats the purpose of a mailing list, huh?




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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:20:57 EDT
From: KCochran1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Service Manuals

In a message dated 7/21/99 7:50:45 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dean.baruffi yale.edu writes:

> They are the ones from Helms.
>
> 1. 1997 Service Manual(s) F-250HD, 350, Super Duty. ($38.00 + shipping)
>
> 2. 1997 Truck Electrical and Vacuum troubleshooting manual. ($12.00 +
> shipping)
>
> 3. 1996 Power Control/Emission Diagnosis (On board Diagnostics I, OBDI)
> Car/truck
> (Note: This is the 1996 manual as the 1997 manual was for the new body
> style LD)
> ($60.00 + shipping. This is also
> includes Diesels)
>

Did you find a taker yet ??

KCochran1 aol.com

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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:32:15 -0700
From: "Neil Plocek"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 2000 F-150 Prices

Anything on the 150 Crew-cab pricing yet?

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