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97up-list-digest Thursday, July 15 1999 Volume 02 : Number 188



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - '99 F150 V6 Dual Exhaust
FTE 97up - wheel website
RE: FTE 97up - '99 F150 V6 Dual Exhaust
RE: FTE 97up - '99 F150 V6 Dual Exhaust
FTE 97up - cat removal
Re: FTE 97up - cat removal
Re: FTE 97up - HP specs & wishful thinking. -Reply
FTE 97up - blowers
RE: FTE 97up - cat removal
FTE 97up - steering wheel shaking
RE: FTE 97up - steering wheel shaking
Re: FTE 97up - blowers
FTE 97up - 99 f-150 4.6 3.55

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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 08:33:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Larry Drum
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - '99 F150 V6 Dual Exhaust

Mike,

Sorry for being a bit off your question, BUT, you said new F150. Is
this a brand new 99 or is it a used (97 or 98) that seems new to you.
The reason I ask is because I also have the 4.2 V6 5 Speed, however,
mine only has a single cat to a single muffler. I just wonder if it's
a new 99 if Ford added this after I bought mine (November of Last
Year)....

Larry

- --- "M. Schmidt" wrote:
> Recently bought a new F150 with 4.2 V6/5-speed. Love
> the truck, but it
> doesn't have much grunt. I noticed that it has
> dual-cats running into a
> single muffler. This looks like it would be easy to
> add dual-exhaust. Would
> dual flowmasters or other performance mufflers add
> to the performance? Or is
> it not worth the expense?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:13:35 -0500
From: "Shane"
Subject: FTE 97up - wheel website

Hey every body, I found this wheel website today. It's pretty cool, you can
buy new or refurbished original wheels for yourcar/truck and trade in your
wheels on the new ones. I just remembered some of you were trying to get
some wheels for your trucks a while back and thought i'de pass this along.

Shane


http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.aaarims.com/

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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:07:00 -0500
From: "M. Schmidt"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - '99 F150 V6 Dual Exhaust

Larry,
Actually the salesman was confused as well. It is a "brand-new" 1999, and
when I first looked at the truck I mentioned the dual cats. The salesman was
surprised, because they always had a single cat before. It has a cat on each
side, with a 90 degree bend about a foot behind the driver's side cat which
then merges into the pipe attached to the passenger side cat. Could mine
have 2 cats because it's extended cab?

ms

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Subject: Re: FTE 97up - '99 F150 V6 Dual Exhaust


Mike,

Sorry for being a bit off your question, BUT, you said new F150. Is
this a brand new 99 or is it a used (97 or 98) that seems new to you.
The reason I ask is because I also have the 4.2 V6 5 Speed, however,
mine only has a single cat to a single muffler. I just wonder if it's
a new 99 if Ford added this after I bought mine (November of Last
Year)....

Larry

- --- "M. Schmidt" wrote:
> Recently bought a new F150 with 4.2 V6/5-speed. Love
> the truck, but it
> doesn't have much grunt. I noticed that it has
> dual-cats running into a
> single muffler. This looks like it would be easy to
> add dual-exhaust. Would
> dual flowmasters or other performance mufflers add
> to the performance? Or is
> it not worth the expense?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 10:16:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Larry Drum
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - '99 F150 V6 Dual Exhaust

Mike,

Hmmmmmmmm. Got me. It could be a possibility because of the Ext. Cab.
Mine is a Reg. Cab... Back to your first question. I put a
Flowmaster on mine and it dramatically increased the Sound and I
noticed a little more punch off the line and in OD (5th Gear)....

Larry

- --- "M. Schmidt" wrote:
> Larry,
> Actually the salesman was confused as well. It is a
> "brand-new" 1999, and
> when I first looked at the truck I mentioned the
> dual cats. The salesman was
> surprised, because they always had a single cat
> before. It has a cat on each
> side, with a 90 degree bend about a foot behind the
> driver's side cat which
> then merges into the pipe attached to the passenger
> side cat. Could mine
> have 2 cats because it's extended cab?
>
> ms
>

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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 11:04:49 -0500
From: Perry Klein
Subject: FTE 97up - cat removal

Has anyone knocked the cat converter out of their exhaust on the
6.8l and if so what were the results?

pk

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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 15:37:38 -0400
From: Dean Baruffi
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - cat removal

Perry Klein wrote:


>Has anyone knocked the cat converter out of their exhaust on the
>6.8l and if so what were the results?


One thing I will tell you is that if you have O2 sensors before and after
the cat, (which I think you do) you will cause an error code in the ECU if
you remove the cat. The 02 sensor after the cat will not "see" a
differential value between the two 02 sensors so this will cause an error
code.

There is a company that makes a slug that plugs into the aft 02 sensor that
fakes out the ECU into thinking the O2 sensor is working properly. They
cost about $30. I used them on my 1996 Impala SS with great success. (no
flames about the chevy. It's a nice car).

Feel free to call and I will elaborate on this more:

Dean Baruffi
2000 F-150 extended cab, Flareside, sport on order.
1997 F-250 HD 4x4 extended cab (some mods)
203-432-0243



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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:12:18 -0700
From: "Steve J. Hodson"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - HP specs & wishful thinking. -Reply

check out the site for vortech superchargers. they have a centrifugal
design that seem to do a better job of getting low and mid range hp out of
the v10
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From: GEORGE CROLL
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, July 13, 1999 4:01 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - HP specs & wishful thinking. -Reply


>Some interesting stuff in the performance products catalog, Spring /summer
99, Catalog 16F page 78 on Trition
>Engines.
>
>Paxton Superchargers has rear wheel HP and torque for a 98 5.4 and a 99
V-10 with and without a supercharger.
>Peak stock rear wheel HP for the 5.4 is 180 or so at 3800, torque is 260
ft/lbs at 3000. Both the HP and Torque
>curves are vary flat. The V-10 gets 210 hp peak and 290 ft/lbs peak in
stock form. Once again a real flat power
>curve. Perhaps this is a case of a new motor but I would like to just once
see better rear wheel numbers for the
>V-10.
>
>Also if you believe the graph in the magazine the supercharger only
outperforms the stock unit above 2900 rpm in the
>5.4 and 2300 rpm in the V-10. You get about 40 to 50 hp from 3100 to 4100
rpm in the 5.4 and about 50 hp in the
>V-10 by 4200rpm.. Not a great deal for 4k. You only get a big performance
increase at 4100 rpm and above. In the
>usable power band you get less performance where you need it in a truck
(1000 to 2000 rpm) and you spend $80
>per hp in the 2000 to 4000 rpm range. How many of us need a big
performance gain at 4100+ rpm. Hmmm, me thinks
>supercharging might be best for a race car not a truck.
>
>my .02 to stir the pot.
>George Croll
>EPA-OAR-ARD
>(202)564-0162
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 13:44:36 -0500
From: Perry Klein
Subject: FTE 97up - blowers

I didn't notice the ford V-10 listed on the vortech sight.
what url are you using?

pk


At 05:12 PM 7/14/99 -0700, you wrote:
>check out the site for vortech superchargers. they have a centrifugal
>design that seem to do a better job of getting low and mid range hp out of
>the v10

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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 17:40:17 -0500
From: Dmoore dmoore.com
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - cat removal

I did. "Nominal" difference if any. Small difference (increase) in
mileage. Doesn't change the sound. There are replacement pipes for the cat
if you don't want to knock it out from Ford.

David

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Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 11:05 AM
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Subject: FTE 97up - cat removal


Has anyone knocked the cat converter out of their exhaust on the
6.8l and if so what were the results?

pk

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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:39:47 EDT
From: Cop786 aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - steering wheel shaking

I have a 97 F150 small 8, auto, and when I take off slowly, sometimes right
before the trans is going to shift, the steering wheel shakes. It's hard to
explain what type of shaking, but maybe something similar to if you were
going over a series of 5 or 6 bumbs rather quickly. Has anyone else had a
problem similar to this or any ideas?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Chris Gerstner
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 19:49:34 -0500
From: "sqezbox"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - steering wheel shaking

Does it feel like goin over a cattle guard ? what speed ? what gear is it
tryin to shift to and when was the last time you had the trans serviced ?
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Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 1999 6:40 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 97up - steering wheel shaking

I have a 97 F150 small 8, auto, and when I take off slowly, sometimes right
before the trans is going to shift, the steering wheel shakes. It's hard to
explain what type of shaking, but maybe something similar to if you were
going over a series of 5 or 6 bumbs rather quickly. Has anyone else had a
problem similar to this or any ideas?
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Chris Gerstner
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Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 23:52:23 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - blowers

In a message dated 7/14/99 5:54:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Klein prudhoe-bay.dowell.slb.com writes:

kit has been avalible for some time, not sure if its on there or not.

RS


Date: 7/14/99 5:54:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: Klein prudhoe-bay.dowell.slb.com (Perry Klein)
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I didn't notice the ford V-10 listed on the vortech sight.
what url are you using?

pk


At 05:12 PM 7/14/99 -0700, you wrote:
>check out the site for vortech superchargers. they have a centrifugal
>design that seem to do a better job of getting low and mid range hp out of
>the v10

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