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97up-list-digest Tuesday, July 13 1999 Volume 02 : Number 186



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power
RE: FTE 97up - engine light
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power -Reply
RE: FTE 97up - engine light
RE: FTE 97up - engine light
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power -Reply
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power -Reply
RE: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power -Reply
FTE 97up - question about auto tranny overdrive
Re: FTE 97up - question about auto tranny overdrive

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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:00:46 -0500
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power

I only know of the air box TSB for the PSD. And understood it
involved a physical relocation of the air box. Nathan could give
you the exact reason for the move, but I believe it had to do with
air flow obstruction due to slush and snow pickup; probably rain
too.

I'm tempted to widen the opening I already have to increase air flow.
I know of others who have drilled holes in their air box to effectively
do just that. My concern here would be the "water problem" above,
and less dense hot engine air degrading turbo performance.

Also considering a high performance air filter element (non gauze
type).

Charles.


Keith Privratsky wrote:

> I've read a few things about the Air Box TSB, but
> can't find it on my listing. Does it only apply to
> the PSD's? I can cut the hole, but what else is
> involved in the Air Box TSB?
>
> --- Charles Abraham wrote:
> > My 99.5 PSD has the new air box - with the cutout in
> > the radiator shroud for the air intake snorkel.

> But I know others that don't.

> > They have the indentation for the cutout in the shroud

> but no actual cutout. Or have

> > 99s that had the air box TSB
> > done and their dealer neglected to make the required
> > "cutout", during installation.
>

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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:31:36 -0400
From: "D'Amelio, Stephen M."
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - engine light

If this happens, get out of your truck, open the hood,
and check if your engine is still there. If it is, your ok :)

But seriously folks...
The check engine light is usually triggered by a fault
in the emission system. Anything from an O2 sensor to
a fuel pressure regulator. You DO need to find out why
it's lit. Get a memory dump from your CPU or an online
diag. $65 bucks from Ford, or you can try a hand-held unit
sold in automotive parts stores. (about 40 bucks)

Steve D'Amelio
Systems Administrator
CVS/Pharmacy
1 CVS Drive
Woonsocket, RI 02895
401-765-1500 x3351 FAX 401-762-4607
mailto:smdamelio cvs.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cvs.com

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> From: bruce yeagle[SMTP:nugget penn.com]
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>
> I was told if the check engine light comes on it is nothing to worry
> about , is this the case ? I have a f-250 ,1997.
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:02:14 -0400
From: GEORGE CROLL
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power -Reply

I looked at my V-10 and the air intake goes through the metal front. The large round plastic inlet to the air filter
attaches to a rubber inlet cone which narrows down at the front. This rubber piece is what goes through the
sheetmetal at the front. The rubber piece goes into an area behind the plastic grill and specifically behind the left side
small inlet with the honeycomb. the piece of plastic behind the honeycomb has no hole in it to allow air to go directly
into the the rubber inlet piece. My question is, should there be a hole in this piece of plastic? I would guess this is
the case but I want to confirm this. also will a dealer do the cutting if I take it in?

thanks in advance
George Croll
EPA-OAR-ARD
(202)564-0162
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:57:06 EDT
From: "Christian Bagley"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - engine light

The ODBII error code readers are a little more than $40. They are somewhere
around $150 - $200. If I am wrong, let me know where I can get one. They
may have gone down in price since I checked last.

Chris


>From: "D'Amelio, Stephen M."
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: "'97up-list ford-trucks.com'"
>Subject: RE: FTE 97up - engine light
>Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:31:36 -0400
>
>If this happens, get out of your truck, open the hood,
>and check if your engine is still there. If it is, your ok :)
>
>But seriously folks...
>The check engine light is usually triggered by a fault
>in the emission system. Anything from an O2 sensor to
>a fuel pressure regulator. You DO need to find out why
>it's lit. Get a memory dump from your CPU or an online
>diag. $65 bucks from Ford, or you can try a hand-held unit
>sold in automotive parts stores. (about 40 bucks)
>
>Steve D'Amelio
>Systems Administrator
>CVS/Pharmacy
>1 CVS Drive
>Woonsocket, RI 02895
>401-765-1500 x3351 FAX 401-762-4607
>mailto:smdamelio cvs.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cvs.com
>
> > ----------
> > From: bruce yeagle[SMTP:nugget penn.com]
> > Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 4:44 PM
> > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: FTE 97up - engine light
> >
> > I was told if the check engine light comes on it is nothing to worry
> > about , is this the case ? I have a f-250 ,1997.
> >
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:26:46 -0400
From: "D'Amelio, Stephen M."
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - engine light

Sorry, I probably stand corrected. The
last unit I bought was for the old (EEC V??)
system. Looks like they took quite a jump!

Steve D'Amelio
Systems Administrator
CVS/Pharmacy
1 CVS Drive
Woonsocket, RI 02895
401-765-1500 x3351 FAX 401-762-4607
mailto:smdamelio cvs.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cvs.com

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> From: Christian Bagley[SMTP:c_bagley hotmail.com]
> Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 10:57 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: RE: FTE 97up - engine light
>
> The ODBII error code readers are a little more than $40. They are
> somewhere
> around $150 - $200. If I am wrong, let me know where I can get one. They
>
> may have gone down in price since I checked last.
>
> Chris
>
>
> >From: "D'Amelio, Stephen M."
> >Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> >To: "'97up-list ford-trucks.com'"
> >Subject: RE: FTE 97up - engine light
> >Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 10:31:36 -0400
> >
> >If this happens, get out of your truck, open the hood,
> >and check if your engine is still there. If it is, your ok :)
> >
> >But seriously folks...
> >The check engine light is usually triggered by a fault
> >in the emission system. Anything from an O2 sensor to
> >a fuel pressure regulator. You DO need to find out why
> >it's lit. Get a memory dump from your CPU or an online
> >diag. $65 bucks from Ford, or you can try a hand-held unit
> >sold in automotive parts stores. (about 40 bucks)
> >
> >Steve D'Amelio
> >Systems Administrator
> >CVS/Pharmacy
> >1 CVS Drive
> >Woonsocket, RI 02895
> >401-765-1500 x3351 FAX 401-762-4607
> >mailto:smdamelio cvs.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cvs.com
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From: bruce yeagle[SMTP:nugget penn.com]
> > > Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 4:44 PM
> > > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > > Subject: FTE 97up - engine light
> > >
> > > I was told if the check engine light comes on it is nothing to worry
> > > about , is this the case ? I have a f-250 ,1997.
> > >
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 11:00:42 -0500
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power -Reply

Speaking for my PSD, what you have described below is my setup up to "behind the honeycomb", where
there I differ by having the oblong slot (hole), about 1-1/4" x 2-1/4", that is easily visible looking from the
front through the left honeycomb grill. Here there also appears to be a small offset fitting with radius edges,
probably to prevent direct intake of rain water. I'll have to verify this from under the hood when I get home.
But right now I'd have to say it is looks like more to me than just cutting a hole in the radiator shroud.

Charles.
99.5 PSD

Speaking for my PSD, you have described my setup up to "just behind the honeycomb", there I have the oblong
slot (hole), about 1-1/4" x 2-1/4", that is visible viewed from the front looking through the honeycomb grill.

GEORGE CROLL wrote:

> I looked at my V-10 and the air intake goes through the metal front. The large round plastic inlet to the air filter
> attaches to a rubber inlet cone which narrows down at the front. This rubber piece is what goes through the
> sheetmetal at the front. The rubber piece goes into an area behind the plastic grill and specifically behind the left side
> small inlet with the honeycomb. the piece of plastic behind the honeycomb has no hole in it to allow air to go directly
> into the the rubber inlet piece. My question is, should there be a hole in this piece of plastic? I would guess this is
> the case but I want to confirm this. also will a dealer do the cutting if I take it in?
>
> thanks in advance
> George Croll
> EPA-OAR-ARD
> (202)564-0162
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 09:32:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Keith Privratsky
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power -Reply

My air box intake is the same way - no hole. I also
noticed that the air box HAS two 1" holes in the side
of it closest to the engine.

Nathan - Any insight?
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 12:36:59 -0500
From: "Strukel, Mike"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power -Reply

I went ahead and cut a hole in the plastic plate that is between the air
intake snorkle and the grill. I also installed a K&N filter. I can't
say that I notice any improvement in power and I have not checked my gas
mileage since (just did it last week).


Mike Strukel

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From: Keith Privratsky [mailto:blazer503 yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, July 12, 1999 11:33 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power -Reply


My air box intake is the same way - no hole. I also
noticed that the air box HAS two 1" holes in the side
of it closest to the engine.

Nathan - Any insight?
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 02:26:45 EDT
From: Ccdolf aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - question about auto tranny overdrive

i have a 99 f-150 4.6L 3.55 axle sc. just driving around town and on the
interstate highways, is it best to use overdrive or just drive? will using
overdrive all the time except when towing overwork the tranny? i know it's
better on gas mileage, but i don't want to overwork my tranny just to get
better gas mileage.
i love the truck though


Bill
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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 1999 01:45:13 PDT
From: "Chris B."
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - question about auto tranny overdrive

Bill,
You should keep overdrive on most of the time, i do. If i recall correctly
overdrive makes the engine shift gears quicker. I may be wrong but i always
use overdrive and i have a 99 expedition.....

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