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97up-list-digest Saturday, July 10 1999 Volume 02 : Number 183



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Re: PSD Problems
FTE 97up - Explorer questions
FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power
Re: FTE 97up - SD Brakes!
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power
Re: FTE 97up - SD Brakes!
FTE 97up - 99/00 SD/SC back seat

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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 06:53:33 EDT
From: MadPoodle aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: PSD Problems

In a message dated 7/9/99 5:16:58 AM, Butch writes:

>What leaps out at me from your post is your DEALER.
>The service department sounds incompetent to me. Now, that assumes your
>drivers are not "hot rodding" your trucks, and I'm sure they are not.

Both trucks, since they are an "experiment", are driven by my 2 best
drivers. I agree with you, the truck with the clutch problems went to a truck
only dealer twice, then a car/truck dealer, and finally to a Ford / Sterling
dealer who got it right. The other truck has gone to the same dealer every
time, but I am about to tow it out of there this AM, and take it to the Ford
/ Sterling dealer at my expense!


>
>Furthermore, the fuel system problems sound like another technician -mechanic
>who would fail basic troubleshooting class at the community college. I
>don't pretend to know what is causing the problem, but I don't have the
advantage
>of Ford training and certification. It sounds as though the techs at your
>dealer don't have the advantage either.

Latest update from them: handed us 2 bottles of contaminated fuel.
(funny, 2 different color fuels also)... Said they put a new fuel pump in, it
ran 5 minutes and died. Going to be nice guys and warranty it anyway.. Yeah,
and I own the Brooklyn bridge. Anyway, methinks I'm gonna have it towed 50
miles to the other dealer..

Scott
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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:11:51 -0400
From: "Kenneth J. Nagy"
Subject: FTE 97up - Explorer questions

I have two (probably easily answered) questions concerning my '96 Explorer.
It has about 62K miles and still runs fine.

How do you de-pressurize the fuel system to change the fuel filter, it is
the original unit, and do you need anything special to remove the clips that
hold it on?

When I changed my air filter, I noticed an oily-black coating at the intake
(where the plastic air intake hose connects to the intake. I pushed open
the butterfly plate and saw it was present there also. What type of
cleaning , if any do I need to do? ie. injector flush...etc. As I said, the
truck runs great.

Thanks to all in this group, I've picked up alot of useful info since
joining

Ken

Kenneth J. Nagy knagy IXTelecom.com
IDT Corporation www.idt.net
225 Old New Brunswick Road, Suite 300
Piscataway, NJ 08854

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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 08:58:00 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power

We had a SD V-10 that we resently sold come back in with a complaint of lack
of power. After some reaserch we found a faulty fuel pressure regulator was
the culprit. However, along the way, we found a SSM that said to check and
see if the radiator support had a hole to allow air flow to the air box.

If you look at the air cleaner asy, it goes in to the radiator area. There
is a flap that you can lift up to see the opening of the air cleaner asy.
I've noticed that on all the trucks I have on the lot there is no opening to
allow air into this area. It looks very restrictive. We used a hole saw to
drill out this support (plastic support). It looks like it should give the
ram air effect. The only concern it gives me is if rain might caus a
problem in the future. But if your looking for a few extra horsepower, this
looks like a good place to start.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, INc.


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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 11:15:11 -0500
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power

My 99.5 PSD has the new air box - with the cutout in the radiator shroud for the

air intake snorkel. But I know others that don't. They have the indentation for
the
cutout in the shroud but no actual cutout. Or have 99s that had the air box TSB
done and their dealer neglected to make the required "cutout", during
installation.

Even so, with the cutout, the opening - and snorkel, seem small to me for the
air
intake requirements I'm guessing my PSD needs.

Charles.

Union Auto wrote:

> We had a SD V-10 that we resently sold come back in with a complaint of lack
> of power. After some reaserch we found a faulty fuel pressure regulator was
> the culprit. However, along the way, we found a SSM that said to check and
> see if the radiator support had a hole to allow air flow to the air box.
>
> If you look at the air cleaner asy, it goes in to the radiator area. There
> is a flap that you can lift up to see the opening of the air cleaner asy.
> I've noticed that on all the trucks I have on the lot there is no opening to
> allow air into this area. It looks very restrictive. We used a hole saw to
> drill out this support (plastic support). It looks like it should give the
> ram air effect. The only concern it gives me is if rain might caus a
> problem in the future. But if your looking for a few extra horsepower, this
> looks like a good place to start.
>
> Nathan Bernard
> Union Auto, INc.
>
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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:48:15 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - SD Brakes!

Usually we just turn the rotors. If there below minimum thickness they can
be replaced. Two things will greatly help reduce rotor warpage. Make sure
and torque lugnuts any time you do have a wheel off. Also if you get the
brakes warmed up, make sure and drive a while to let them cool off. When
you stop with hot brakes the exposed disc cools faster than the section
covered by the pads and caliper causing warpage.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Ball
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 5:57 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - SD Brakes!


> SD F250 4X4 CC V10 SB,
> Iam very happy with this truck!
> But Iam very disappointed with the front brakes!
> It has 11,000 miles on it now and the front brakes are chattering!!
> Has anyone else had this happen to there SD yet?
> I know all about the F150 brake trouble, I have had a few!
> I cant believe I got the same trouble with the SD brakes?
> What gets to me is I stop very easy!! To try and save my brakes,
> and I end up with this?
> So has anyone had any luck at the dealer for new rotors and pads,
> or do they just cut them down and hope that works for awhile?
> Gene
>
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Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 14:17:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Keith Privratsky
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty V-10 lack of power

I've read a few things about the Air Box TSB, but
can't find it on my listing. Does it only apply to
the PSD's? I can cut the hole, but what else is
involved in the Air Box TSB?

- --- Charles Abraham wrote:
> My 99.5 PSD has the new air box - with the cutout in
> the radiator shroud for the
>
> air intake snorkel. But I know others that don't.
> They have the indentation for
> the
> cutout in the shroud but no actual cutout. Or have
> 99s that had the air box TSB
> done and their dealer neglected to make the required
> "cutout", during
> installation.
>
> Even so, with the cutout, the opening - and snorkel,
> seem small to me for the
> air
> intake requirements I'm guessing my PSD needs.
>
> Charles.
>

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Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 20:24:09 -0700
From: Gene Ball
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - SD Brakes!

Thanks for the response Nathan!
Gene

Union Auto wrote:

> Usually we just turn the rotors. If there below minimum thickness they can
> be replaced. Two things will greatly help reduce rotor warpage. Make sure
> and torque lugnuts any time you do have a wheel off. Also if you get the
> brakes warmed up, make sure and drive a while to let them cool off. When
> you stop with hot brakes the exposed disc cools faster than the section
> covered by the pads and caliper causing warpage.
>
> Nathan Bernard
> Union Auto, Inc.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gene Ball
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 1999 5:57 PM
> Subject: FTE 97up - SD Brakes!
>
> > SD F250 4X4 CC V10 SB,
> > Iam very happy with this truck!
> > But Iam very disappointed with the front brakes!
> > It has 11,000 miles on it now and the front brakes are chattering!!
> > Has anyone else had this happen to there SD yet?
> > I know all about the F150 brake trouble, I have had a few!
> > I cant believe I got the same trouble with the SD brakes?
> > What gets to me is I stop very easy!! To try and save my brakes,
> > and I end up with this?
> > So has anyone had any luck at the dealer for new rotors and pads,
> > or do they just cut them down and hope that works for awhile?
> > Gene
> >
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Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 00:42:37 -0700
From: Dave Santo
Subject: FTE 97up - 99/00 SD/SC back seat

Apparently, from Ford's order guides (6/30/99), and elsewhere, the
fold-down/flat-load-steel-floor that the 99's had IS NOT AVAILABLE ON THE
2000'S! You get a flip-up bench seat, which when flipped up (against the
seat-back) opens up a "load floor" (the carpeting!) WITH A HUMP
(trans/driveshaft) IN THE MIDDLE! Can anyone out there tell me if I can order a
99 back seat assy. and put it in my 00? I know I'm a little early, but, I'd like
to know. TIA. On Ford's dealer site, even the dealers are requesting that Ford
NOT DROP the 99 back seat in favor of the 00 flip-up seat. 2000 SD/SC V-10 LWB
Lariat 2WD Auto. Expected delivery late August.....

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