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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - Sputter and poping sound
Re: FTE 97up - manual vs. automatic
FTE 97up - RE: Brakes
Re: FTE 97up - Ford's Modular V-8 "not a Good Choice for Trucks"
RE: FTE 97up - manual vs. automatic
Re: FTE 97up - Invoice vs Retail
FTE 97up - surprise oil change
RE: FTE 97up - surprise oil change
Re: FTE 97up - manual vs. automatic
Re: FTE 97up - surprise oil change
Re: FTE 97up - Ford's Modular V-8 "not a Good Choice for Trucks"
FTE 97up - re: brakes
FTE 97up - weighed F250SD
FTE 97up - Re: Invoice vs Retail
FTE 97up - Wastegate Behavior
Re: FTE 97up - Wastegate Behavior
Re: FTE 97up - Fuel Differences
FTE 97up - question
Re: FTE 97up - question

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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 06:35:47 EDT
From: Christian Bagley
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Sputter and poping sound

Well, problem solved. I replaced the plug wires and cleaned out the nasty
air intake ducting and throttle and it ran beautiful. Then had my mechanic
reset the check engine light which came on yesterday and everything was
fine.


>From: Christian Bagley
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE 97up - Sputter and poping sound
>Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 22:33:03 EDT
>
>I have a problem with my truck(97 F150 4.6L 4X4), it sputters when I hit
>the
>gas sitting still and then when I am driving it and hit the gas, it down
>shifts, sputters a little and sometimes makes a sort of poping sound coming
>from somewhere between the transmission area and the engine. It also
>sputters a little when I am at a constant speed. The weird thing is, is
>that it does not do it all the time. It has been raining a lot here lately
>it has never acted up in the rain before. It only acts up when I hit the
>gas, when it is sitting idle it runs fine. I am stumped, could it be the
>exhaust manifold, a sensor in the emissions system, an intake manifold, I
>don't know, I will take it in to my mechanic tomorrow for him to look at
>it.
> I just wanted y'alls opinion first to see if there were any ideas here.
>Any information you might have will be GREATLY appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Chris


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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 07:55:25 EDT
From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - manual vs. automatic

Bill;

The days of wimpy automatics being the norm are pretty much gone. Some are
better than others but generally reliability of the transmission is not an
issue.

That goes back quite a few years actually, remember in the good old days of
Muscle cars. The big engined Dodges were never available with manuals. Not
that Dodge wanted to jack the price, they couldn't get a clutch in there that
would survive.

Same thing today, in the manual transmission drive train, the clutch will be
the weak link.

Yes the big rigs use manuals, 12 speed I think at last count but remeber they
are driving an engine that perfoms significantly better over a narrow rpm
range.

I would not sweat the automatic. If you plan on doing a lot of hauling or
trailering, the auxiliary transmission cooler and oil cooler is a good
investment. If you get a 4 speed with auto overdrive, keep it out of
overdrive when you load up the vehicle .

Beyond that, you pay for some fuel economy and a slight hit on performance in
the stop light drags. It gets to be your choice.

Good luck

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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:16:21 -0400
From: "Simons, Clayton"
Subject: FTE 97up - RE: Brakes

Marc,

Here are a few observastions I made prior to purchasing my 99' F250 SD SC
SWB 4x4 PSD. I test drove a 99' CC same as mine and to me it is very
important to have 4-wheel antilock brakes. This Crew Cab was a demonstrator
and they actually took the window sticker out so I could not see weather the
4-wheel antilock brakes were there so the next best thing is to test them.
On a good straight stretch of dead end commercial type street I got to about
45mph and slammed on the brakes while turning the wheel. WHAT A SHOCK. The
front end of the locomotive was plowing straight ahead even though the
steering wheel was turned over half way to the left stop, and the front end
began to bounce like a pogo stick! Obviously no 4-wheel antilock. Yes the
rears activated but bear in mind most and I mean 85% and more of the
stopping takes place with the front tires, especially if there is no weight
in the back.

Then I found the truck I wound up purchasing. Same setup with the exception
of super cab instead of crew cab. This baby really STOPS. The brakes feel
as solid as my 850 Volvo and to date there has been no brake fade. When I
tried this panic stop in the same location the truck did no front in
hopping/square-dancing and was well on it's way to a well executed left
turn! For a 3/4ton truck I'm still impressed and believe Ford finally has
done something about their historical lousy brake problems.

Check these:
1. Do the rotors look very shinny? They could be glazed.
2. When you lightly place your foot on the brake pedal, can you feel a
pulsing through the pedal? Indication of rotor warpage and over heating
conditions.
3. Can you release the steering wheel while applying firm pressure to
the brakes for a stop with out veering to one side of the other?

Just some thoughts, pardon the long post, but braking is important. Most
people are from the "turn you warped rotor" school. I am not, just remember
that once the rotor is warped, it's always warped. Good luck.

Clayton
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 08:01:28 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Ford's Modular V-8 "not a Good Choice for Trucks"

Thats wild, a friend of mine has a '98 F-150 with a 5.4L and the off Road
package and compared to another friends 95 F-250 4x2 it will easily win an
empty race despite the fact that the F-250 has a 460 and 4.10 gears (3.55 on
the 150 and taller tires too).

Nathan
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Privratsky
To:
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Ford's Modular V-8 "not a Good Choice for Trucks"


> I have raced my buddy down an on-ramp to the freeway -
> and lost (not by much). Mine is a 99 F250 SC XLT V10
> 4.30 stock, his is a 92 F250 HD SC 460 4.10 Camper
> shell, BUT he has modified the air box, changed the
> muffler, improved the shift in the tranny, and added
> an aftermarket spark enhancer. I'm hoping that a K&N
> and muffler will put him back in his place.
>
> Keith P.
>
> BTW - enjoying the posts!
>
> --- Union Auto wrote:
> > I have to comment on this one. There are many
> > people that don't like the
> > overhead cam engines just because they are
> > different. The'll make up
> > reasons its no good and say that they need replaced.
> > But for pulling power
> > these engines are wonderful, reliability has been
> > great, and mileage is much
> > improved over the old windsor engines. The only
> > complaint I have is that
> > the power band is so smooth that you don't notice
> > the power that's there.
> > If you drive a 460 you'll know when it comes into
> > its power band because it
> > will suddenly sit you back in your seat (the new GM
> > engines are this way
> > also, but it's not until close to 4,000 RPM that
> > they do it), where the V-10
> > makes smooth power but you don't get that sudden
> > here we go sensation. That
> > makes the 460 feel more powerful by the
> > seat-of-the-pants meter. However if
> > you run a 460 and a V-10 side by side (empty or
> > loaded) you'll find that the
> > V-10 walks all over the 460 (the 5.4L will empty)
> >
> > Nathan
> >
> >
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:56:09 -0400
From: "D'Amelio, Stephen M."
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - manual vs. automatic

The automatic will tow significantly more than
the manual. Don't worry about the reliability,
sure their will be tranny horror stories. But
IMO, since the C-6, Ford's autos have been
great performers. I have towed with a C-6, an E4OD,
and whatever they are calling the "new" E4OD in
my 97. They have never disappointed me. I also
did some off road racing (mud bogs and sand drags)
with a C-6 behind 400hp.
I *always* run tranny coolers. It is the
secret to long automatic transmission life. (that, and
fluid changes)
BTW, I run a Ford toploader 4 speed in my old Mustang
so I'm not "anti-manual". I love the toploader, but in a
proper application. Not a truck.

Steve D'Amelio
Systems Administrator
CVS/Pharmacy
1 CVS Drive
Woonsocket, RI 02895
401-765-1500 x3351 FAX 401-762-4607
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> From: Ccdolf aol.com[SMTP:Ccdolf aol.com]
> Reply To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 1:12 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 97up - manual vs. automatic
>
> Ok, i'm real confused here. i've been told that a manual tranny will tow
> and
> haul more than an automatic, and i've been told just the opposite. what
> is
> the truth? does anyone know? i would really appreciate any information
> anyone could give me.
>
> i plan to trade my 98 f-150 in for a 99 f-150 5.4 3.73 axle not sure
> of
> the 4x4 or which tranny yet though, any guidance on this matter would be
> appreciated.
>
> Bill
> Ccdlof aol.com
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:59:23 -0400
From: "Kenneth J. Nagy"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Invoice vs Retail

I've played with the site www.priceline.com. I won't be ready to buy my new
truck until next year, but I will consider using it when I'm ready. This is
how I took it to function: You go online, option out the vehicle, specify
your geographic location, type of loan / downpayment and it comes up with a
monthly payment. You can submit that and through their network of dealers
will find a match. They claim it costs $25 dollars and only if they come up
with an exact match...results remains to be seen.

Ken

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Grande
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 3:22 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Invoice vs Retail


> Hey y'all,
>
> The F-series 2000 model year prices are out on the internet! This is a
> classic case of how the internet is changing everyone's business, I
couldn't
> find this information at the library.
>
> http:\www.
>
> I'm looking to tow a fifth-wheel with a F550. With options, the
difference
> between Invoice/base price and Retail price $5058. Knowing this, can I
> expect to order one at invoice? Is it safe to assume the Ford Dealer is
> still making their 25% on it (so there wouldn't have to be a battle!).
>
> I've also heard there are web sites where you can make an offer, and
dealers
> monitor it and decide if they'll accept your price. Has anyone ever done
> that?
>
> Thanks, Brian
> Orlando, FL
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:13:40 -0400
From: "D'Amelio, Stephen M."
Subject: FTE 97up - surprise oil change

Just did my first oil change on my new "used"
97 F-150 w/5.4L. Boy, did I feel stupid. I crawled under that
truck for 15 minutes looking for the "traditional"
location for an oil filter. I finally found it under
the front bumper. What a great location!
This was by far the easiest and cleanest
oil change I ever performed. Is this the standard
location on a 5.4L? I looked on my brother's 99
4.6L and the filter is on the block, where I would
expect it to be.
I like the extra cooling that this remote filter
should provide. I'm thinking of adding some additional
cooling as long as I have access like this. Is what
I have considered Ford's oil cooler? I do have
a tow package on the truck.


Steve D'Amelio
Systems Administrator
CVS/Pharmacy
1 CVS Drive
Woonsocket, RI 02895
401-765-1500 x3351 FAX 401-762-4607
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:40:32 -0500
From: "Ben Goodwyn"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - surprise oil change

My '98 ORP 4.6L's filter is behing the front bumber as well.

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M.
Sent: Friday, June 18, 1999 8:14 AM
To: '97up-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: FTE 97up - surprise oil change


Just did my first oil change on my new "used"
97 F-150 w/5.4L. Boy, did I feel stupid. I crawled under that
truck for 15 minutes looking for the "traditional"
location for an oil filter. I finally found it under
the front bumper. What a great location!
This was by far the easiest and cleanest
oil change I ever performed. Is this the standard
location on a 5.4L? I looked on my brother's 99
4.6L and the filter is on the block, where I would
expect it to be.
I like the extra cooling that this remote filter
should provide. I'm thinking of adding some additional
cooling as long as I have access like this. Is what
I have considered Ford's oil cooler? I do have
a tow package on the truck.


Steve D'Amelio
Systems Administrator
CVS/Pharmacy
1 CVS Drive
Woonsocket, RI 02895
401-765-1500 x3351 FAX 401-762-4607
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 10:39:17 -0400
From: Jean Marc Chartier
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - manual vs. automatic

Ccdolf aol.com wrote:
>
> Ok, i'm real confused here. i've been told that a manual tranny will tow and
> haul more than an automatic, and i've been told just the opposite. what is
> the truth? does anyone know? i would really appreciate any information
> anyone could give me.
>
> i plan to trade my 98 f-150 in for a 99 f-150 5.4 3.73 axle not sure of
> the 4x4 or which tranny yet though, any guidance on this matter would be
> appreciated.
>
> Bill
> Ccdlof aol.com
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Bill,

If you trade to an F-150 with the 5.4 you can not get the
manual tranny. The reason that the Mazda built tranny can
not tow as much is the strength of the unit. It is the weak
link in the drive train. The clutch is too small and the
tranny feels like it is made of plastic. Have you looked at
the SuperDuties? I believe both the auto and manual can tow
about the same.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 08:07:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hunter
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - surprise oil change

I have a 97 4X4 ORP and the tow package. I think It comes standard on the 4X4 ORP with
the tow package. But I heard alot off people who have the 4X2 don't have them.

- --- "D'Amelio, Stephen M." wrote:
> Just did my first oil change on my new "used"
> 97 F-150 w/5.4L. Boy, did I feel stupid. I crawled under that
> truck for 15 minutes looking for the "traditional"
> location for an oil filter. I finally found it under
> the front bumper. What a great location!
> This was by far the easiest and cleanest
> oil change I ever performed. Is this the standard
> location on a 5.4L? I looked on my brother's 99
> 4.6L and the filter is on the block, where I would
> expect it to be.
I like the extra cooling that this remote filter
> should provide. I'm thinking of adding some additional
> cooling as long as I have access like this. Is what
> I have considered Ford's oil cooler? I do have
> a tow package on the truck.
>
>
> Steve D'Amelio
> Systems Administrator
> CVS/Pharmacy
> 1 CVS Drive
> Woonsocket, RI 02895
> 401-765-1500 x3351 FAX 401-762-4607
> mailto:smdamelio cvs.com http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cvs.com
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 11:04:50 -0400
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Ford's Modular V-8 "not a Good Choice for Trucks"

Remember that just because one truck has 4.10 gears and another truck has
3.73 gears does not mean the one with 4.10 gears will always win the
acceleration race. As with everything else, "too much" of a good thing is a
bad thing. Too much gearing (e.g., over 4.30 or more) and the engine spends
a lot of time at the ends (both high and low) of the powerband (or you
end-up shifting a lot to keep it in the power band). For example, most
reports I have read, and others on this list have confirmed, is that the
V-10 SuperDuty 4X4 with 3.73 gears seems to pull better than the one with
the 4.30 gears. This is not suprising, even though the 4.30 gears will
allow a given engine to rev quicker, the truck does not go as far for each
rev as it would with the 3.73 gears. For certain uses, big gears (4.30 -
5.13 etc.) are better, for example rock-crawling, dump-truck or tow-truck
duty.


Keith



>Thats wild, a friend of mine has a '98 F-150 with a 5.4L and the off Road
>package and compared to another friends 95 F-250 4x2 it will easily win an
>empty race despite the fact that the F-250 has a 460 and 4.10 gears (3.55
on
>the 150 and taller tires too).
>
>Nathan
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Keith Privratsky
>To:
>Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 2:23 PM
>Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Ford's Modular V-8 "not a Good Choice for Trucks"
>
>
>> I have raced my buddy down an on-ramp to the freeway -
>> and lost (not by much). Mine is a 99 F250 SC XLT V10
>> 4.30 stock, his is a 92 F250 HD SC 460 4.10 Camper
>> shell, BUT he has modified the air box, changed the
>> muffler, improved the shift in the tranny, and added
>> an aftermarket spark enhancer. I'm hoping that a K&N
>> and muffler will put him back in his place.
>>
>> Keith P.
>>
>> BTW - enjoying the posts!
>>
>> --- Union Auto wrote:
>> > I have to comment on this one. There are many
>> > people that don't like the
>> > overhead cam engines just because they are
>> > different. The'll make up
>> > reasons its no good and say that they need replaced.
>> > But for pulling power
>> > these engines are wonderful, reliability has been
>> > great, and mileage is much
>> > improved over the old windsor engines. The only
>> > complaint I have is that
>> > the power band is so smooth that you don't notice
>> > the power that's there.
>> > If you drive a 460 you'll know when it comes into
>> > its power band because it
>> > will suddenly sit you back in your seat (the new GM
>> > engines are this way
>> > also, but it's not until close to 4,000 RPM that
>> > they do it), where the V-10
>> > makes smooth power but you don't get that sudden
>> > here we go sensation. That
>> > makes the 460 feel more powerful by the
>> > seat-of-the-pants meter. However if
>> > you run a 460 and a V-10 side by side (empty or
>> > loaded) you'll find that the
>> > V-10 walks all over the 460 (the 5.4L will empty)
>> >
>> > Nathan
>> >
>> >
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 09:32:41 -0600
From: Marc Beauchemin
Subject: FTE 97up - re: brakes

Looks like email gremlins ate my copy of list-digest V2 #162
so I missed any comments there.

I have 16,000 miles on the truck. And my F250LD does
have a F250 booster. I've found that if I go over a pot hole
while breaking, the rear antilock kicks in and won't let go
until I release the pedal. Seems like breaking power disappears
and I find myself standing on the pedal hoping to stop
sometime SOON! I know that the antilock is supposed to prevent
wheel lock-up after a bump, but shouldn't it let go under
light/moderate breaking? I think that most of this problem is due to
inadequate breaking by the front breaks. Any truck (w/o front
anti-lock) that doesn't have enough breaks to lock-up the front
wheels (especially without any payload in the box), can't be too
safe. I'm seeing the dealer about it today.

Marc

- ------------------------------
> >Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 18:52:47 -0600
> >From: "Randy Kindler"
> >Subject: FTE 97up - re: brakes
> >
> >Marc Beauchemin wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > I've got a 1998 F250LD 4x4 S/C SB XLT 5.4l with Rear-Anti
> > Lock breaks.
> > Seems every time I have to make an emergency stop, which
> > fortunately is not too often, I am not impressed with the
> > breaking ablilty of my truck.

> > Any one else have this problem?
> >
> > Also, does anyone know if the rear anti-lock breaks are
> > adjustable?
>How many miles do you have on it? I was very disappointed with the brakes
on
>my '98 F150 when it was new, but after a thousand miles or so, they got a
>lot better. I'm still not crazy about the pedal feel, but I read somewhere
>that was addressed in '99 by going to the F250 booster.
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:28:57 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - weighed F250SD

Well today i decided to put my F250SD 4x4 PSD/SC/XLT/auto/142" on the truck
scales, with 3/4 tank and my small craftsman box(150-200) in back, me in
it(190) weighed in at 7340lbs on the Flying J scale

Ross S
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 13:13:38 -0700
From: Bill Splaine
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Invoice vs Retail

Brian...... don't know about the F-550 but I ordered a '00 250SD CC 4x4 PSD
Lariat for $575 over invoice...... If Ford does the FB rebate again here in
CA it'll be $75 over....

Bill



>Date: Thu, 17 Jun 1999 15:22:55 -0400
>From: Brian Grande
>Subject: FTE 97up - Invoice vs Retail
>
>Hey y'all,
>
>The F-series 2000 model year prices are out on the internet! This is a
>classic case of how the internet is changing everyone's business, I couldn't
>find this information at the library.
>
>http:\www.
>
>I'm looking to tow a fifth-wheel with a F550. With options, the difference
>between Invoice/base price and Retail price $5058. Knowing this, can I
>expect to order one at invoice? Is it safe to assume the Ford Dealer is
>still making their 25% on it (so there wouldn't have to be a battle!).
>
>I've also heard there are web sites where you can make an offer, and dealers
>monitor it and decide if they'll accept your price. Has anyone ever done
>that?
>
>Thanks, Brian
>Orlando, FL

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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:23:25 PDT
From: Scott Matus
Subject: FTE 97up - Wastegate Behavior

Anyone observe the wastgate dumpiing at approx 27-2800 rpm on a PSD. I was
pushing my foot into my truch the other day and it dropped the pressure from
17-18 psi down to 8-10 psi at 2700 rpms. I was at approx 90-92 mph at the
time. Is this Fords way of protecting the engine? But redline is at 3300
RPM. Does the wastegate dump because of the speed I was traveling? Or does
it dump at any speed at 2700 rpms in any gear(I have a 6-speed)?

Don't go out an break any laws to test this. Just if you are daring like
me(some stupidity i'll admit to).

Thanks,
Scott


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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 18:09:22 CDT
From: Robert Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Wastegate Behavior

Ford has a speed limiter that kicks in somewhere over 90 mph. You can get an
engine recalibration module from Superchips, Hypertech, Gale Banks, etc. and
override this if it bothers you.

>From: Scott Matus
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE 97up - Wastegate Behavior
>Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 15:23:25 PDT
>
>Anyone observe the wastgate dumpiing at approx 27-2800 rpm on a PSD. I was
>pushing my foot into my truch the other day and it dropped the pressure
>from
>17-18 psi down to 8-10 psi at 2700 rpms. I was at approx 90-92 mph at the
>time. Is this Fords way of protecting the engine? But redline is at 3300
>RPM. Does the wastegate dump because of the speed I was traveling? Or
>does
>it dump at any speed at 2700 rpms in any gear(I have a 6-speed)?
>
>Don't go out an break any laws to test this. Just if you are daring like
>me(some stupidity i'll admit to).
>
>Thanks,
>Scott
>
>
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 20:57:58 -0400
From: "Bill Wood"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Fuel Differences

Depending on time of year and weather condition
(temp) our local fuel suppliers cut the #2 fuel with
with up to 30% #1 (kerosene). Pyro temps, power
and mpg are all affected. The low volume station may
have had some of that "winter blend" fuel left.
Here in upstate NY, it is easy to tell what you may be
getting. (1) Ask the dealer. (2) The "winter blend" price is
higher. (3) The diesel pump is over 100 ft from the gas pumps. (4) There
are no damp spots on the ground
near the pumps (which means that not many other people
have been near those pumps in recent history) .
The BIG EPA / DOT concern is die to indicate high sulfer
(off road, more power and unpaid road tax) which can
result in heavy fines. If the feds don't see heavy smoke
or find die they don't seem too concerned.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Matus
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 1999 10:28 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Fuel Differences


> I filled up with fuel at a station that does not sell a large volume of
> diesel. I have a pyrometer on my PSD. I noticed that this fill- up that
> the exhaust tempature is 50 to 75 degrees higher than with the fuel I buy
at
> a higher volume station.
>
> Can anyone explain why the Exh. Temp. is higher, with the same driving
> conditions and roadway? Does this have to do with the Cetane rating of
the
> diesel? The stations that I frquent do not list the cetane rating of the
> fuel. But every gas pump lists the octane ratings. Is this another
> enviromental federal law for gas only? Why is the Cetane rating not
listed
> for diesel. I don't buy the generalities like "passenger vehicle diesel"
or
> premium diesel. I want a quantitative measure. How does one really know
> what grade/Cetane of diesel is buying.
>
> Thanks much, Scott in Colorado
>
>
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 02:36:38 EDT
From: Ccdolf aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - question

i am trading my truck in probably in august for an f-150 5.4 v-8 i want
the 3.73 axle supercab, most like;y 4x2. i currently have 98 f-150 4.2 5
spd 3.55 axle reg cab
i'm from pennsylvania, in oklahoma in the military. i want to get the v-8
so i can tow a boat or whatever else may come my way. with oklahoma being
flat as paper, and i usually go back home often, i'm unsure whether to get a
manual tranny or auto. i won't be towing anything extremely heavy, but i
want the option to be able to tow somewhat large loads. what tranny or
engine should i get? the manual will be closer to my budget, but if i can't
get it in the 5.4, then i may settle for the 4.6. i just want to get
opinions or recommendations as to what would be best for my applications.....


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