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97up-list-digest Wednesday, June 16 1999 Volume 02 : Number 161



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In this issue:

RE: FTE 97up - Re: Diesel Fuel Fill
Re: FTE 97up - Winch on SuperDuty?
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Diesel Fuel Fill
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Diesel Fuel Fill
FTE 97up - 60 mph Superduty rumble
Re: FTE 97up - 60 mph Superduty rumble
RE: FTE 97up - 60 mph Superduty rumble
RE: FTE 97up - 60 mph Superduty rumble
Re: FTE 97up - Winch on SuperDuty?
Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.
Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.
FTE 97up - Re: Diesel Fuel Filler
Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.
RE: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.
FTE 97up - 4x4,s and 4x2's
Re: FTE 97up - 4x4,s and 4x2's

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:34:48 -0400
From: davesomers
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Re: Diesel Fuel Fill

Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 12:14:56 EDT
From: BFunk33 aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Diesel Fuel Fill

Pumps for commercial trucks will flow a lot more fuel than those for
passenger vehicles. The fillers reflect this.
This is a problem Ford has come up against before, and has a retro-fit
package to fix it. Your dealer should know about it.
Bill

[davesomers] Perhaps someone out there can provide a part number for this.
A local parts counter didn't know about the two sizes of fills, let alone
a fix to it.

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:54:08 -0600
From: "Daniel M. Richmeier"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Winch on SuperDuty?

I noticed a "Warn" winch on a '99 F-250 SD SC 4X4 in a parking lot. It
looked great, very beefy, yet clean and stylish. It mounted onto where
the tow hooks were removed. After seeing this unit, I plan to install
one on my own truck.

Dan in Denver

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:58:12 EDT
From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Diesel Fuel Fill

No, I never said that it was desireable. I said folks were doing it.
Remember, diesel is a lot more temperature sensitive than gasoline and cold
weather starting problems are often related to summer diesel in the tank. One
fix is cut it with kerosene to get it to flow.

Personally, I would not try a steady diet of kerosene in a diesel. Others may
have a different view. Just mine.

John G
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 10:49:38 -0500
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Diesel Fuel Fill

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.flyingj.com/fj2000.htm

The above link covers the sulfur issue in diesel fuel.

On my '81 VW diesel, the owner's manual recommended
that at extremely cold temperatures, kerosene - and even
gasoline, may be mixed in with the diesel fuel to keep it from
gelling.

I would not use either in my PSD, especially not the gasoline.

Charles.

99.5 F-250 PSD Auto 4x4 3.73LSD ESOF Lariat




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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 11:47:28 -0500
From: "Strukel, Mike"
Subject: FTE 97up - 60 mph Superduty rumble

For all of you Superduty owners...... How many of you are experiencing a
"rumble" at around 60 mph? My truck has been doing this for a while and I
an curious how many others are noticing this?


Mike Strukel

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:48:40 4
From: "Vaughn (VDB)"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 60 mph Superduty rumble

Hi Mike,
Mine is smooth as silk......
No rumble at all.
Was yours doing this before your lift and
wheels/tires??

Vaughn
99 F250 SD SC SB 4X4 5.4



For all of you Superduty owners...... How many of you are
experiencing a "rumble" at around 60 mph? My truck has been
doing this for a while and I an curious how many others are
noticing this?


Mike Strukel

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 13:15:57 -0500
From: "Strukel, Mike"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 60 mph Superduty rumble

Yes, mine did this from the start. I know that there are a few others
that have the same rumble.
It kind of feels like a bad U joint, but they seem tight. I did not
have the dealer take a look yet, since I am waiting for the new spring eye
bushings to come out, so I can correct my squeaky leaf springs.


Mike Strukel

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From: Vaughn (VDB) [mailto:wolf enter.net]
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 8:49 AM
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Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 60 mph Superduty rumble


Hi Mike,
Mine is smooth as silk......
No rumble at all.
Was yours doing this before your lift and
wheels/tires??

Vaughn
99 F250 SD SC SB 4X4 5.4



For all of you Superduty owners...... How many of you are
experiencing a "rumble" at around 60 mph? My truck has been
doing this for a while and I an curious how many others are
noticing this?


Mike Strukel

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 12:57:04 -0700
From: "Larry Drum"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 60 mph Superduty rumble

Mike,

I personally do not own a Super Duty, however, my Boss owns 3 of them (F350
CrewCabs, 4X4, PSD, Dually). I drive all of these quite often (land fill
runs) and I notice a rumble similar to the one you are describing between
55-65 mph.....

Hope this helps,

Larry Drum
Captain, CHP Explorer Post #834
Needles Area
Webmaster - www.chpexplorer.org

'99 F-150 XL, Bright Red, 2WD, 4.2 V-6, 5 Spd. 3.55 LS, BugFlector II, Vent
Visors, Rhino Lining Bed Liner. Maxon 40 Channel W/10 Channel Weather CB.
Maxon "Through the Glass" CB Antenna (Awesome Performance) W/Weather Band.
(Lowering Kit Coming Soon :o).

Sound System :o) -

Alpine In Dish 6 Disk Changer/Receiver Head Unit (Alpine Model # MDA-W890).
4 Infinity Kappa Series 5 X 7 Door and Rear Panel Speakers. 2 Cerwin Vega
Stealth Series 12" Sub Woofers in a Custom Enclosure Behind the Seat
(Regular Cab). 1 - Sherwood 250 Watt x 4 Channel Amplifier Bridged to 500
Watts X 2 Channels Pushing the Subs, 1 - Pioneer 75 Watt X 4 Channel
Amplifier Pushing the Infinitiy's. All Cable and Wiring by Monster Cable.
Power Distribution Blocks by Monster Cable.


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[mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com] On Behalf Of Strukel, Mike
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 1999 9:47 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 97up - 60 mph Superduty rumble

For all of you Superduty owners...... How many of you are experiencing a
"rumble" at around 60 mph? My truck has been doing this for a while and I
an curious how many others are noticing this?


Mike Strukel

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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:16:21 -0400
From: "Freddy"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Winch on SuperDuty?

Hey You have a 2000 model?

If so does it look any different than the 1999 250 model? And have you
had any transmision noises or differential problems?

I really want to get a 2000 250 when it is available in my area!

If you have picture that would be great!
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From: Kenneth L. Collier Jr.
To:
Sent: Monday, June 14, 1999 10:58 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Winch on SuperDuty?


> I was wondering if anyone has a winch on their Super Duty truck? Any
> remarks or suggestions? I've been considering putting a winch on my
> 2000 model truck when I decide to buy it. I'm particularly interested
> in the 12000lb. model from Warn. They also sell a kit that extends the
> bumper four inches and conceals the winch beneath it. Anyone know
> anything about this particular set-up? I've got a Warn winch that has
> been on my 1980 CJ-7 since new, and it still works great. Do you think
> the heavier front springs are needed if the engine is the PSD? Any
> insight would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Kenneth
>
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:17:39 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.

In a message dated 6/13/99 7:08:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
rdbrown2 hotmail.com writes:

i have 3.73 ls

RS


Date: 6/13/99 7:08:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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Check your axle code on the sticker in the driver's door. 18 is a 3.08:1
open rear end, 19 is a 3.55:1 open rear end, H9 is a 3.55:1 limited slip
rear end (there is also a 3.31:1 and a 3.73:1 ratio but I don't know those
codes).
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:26:40 CDT
From: Robert Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.

What is the code for a 3.73:1 LS?


>From: RSnovi aol.com
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.
>Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:17:39 EDT
>
>In a message dated 6/13/99 7:08:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>rdbrown2 hotmail.com writes:
>
>i have 3.73 ls
>
>RS
>
>
> Date: 6/13/99 7:08:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> From: rdbrown2 hotmail.com (Robert Brown)
> Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
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>
> Check your axle code on the sticker in the driver's door. 18 is a 3.08:1
> open rear end, 19 is a 3.55:1 open rear end, H9 is a 3.55:1 limited slip
> rear end (there is also a 3.31:1 and a 3.73:1 ratio but I don't know
>those
> codes).
> >>
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 21:16:13 -0700
From: RICK KANE
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Diesel Fuel Filler

NO NO NO!!! Do not use kerosene in a PSD in place of diesel. I asked
this question of the only friend I trust on the subject. His reply was
that high sulfur fuel provided lubrication for the injector pump and top
engine, much like lead did in gas. EPA mandated low sulfur fuel has
some additives to add lubrication (probably still not enough) and that
kerosene has nothing. It will work but causes lots of extra, expensive
wear in the engine. I don't know what an injector pump for a PSD costs,
but the replacement pump for my Chevy 6.5 diesel was around $2000.
Thank God it was under warranty! I like my new PSD too much to risk
abusing it.
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:34:37 -0700
From: Gene Ball
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.

I just checked my door post sticker for axel code it says C1 ,
and I do have 3.73 LS
Gene

Robert Brown wrote:

> What is the code for a 3.73:1 LS?
>
> >From: RSnovi aol.com
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> >Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.
> >Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:17:39 EDT
> >
> >In a message dated 6/13/99 7:08:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> >rdbrown2 hotmail.com writes:
> >
> >i have 3.73 ls
> >
> >RS
> >
> >
> > Date: 6/13/99 7:08:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> > From: rdbrown2 hotmail.com (Robert Brown)
> > Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > Reply-to: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> >
> > Check your axle code on the sticker in the driver's door. 18 is a 3.08:1
> > open rear end, 19 is a 3.55:1 open rear end, H9 is a 3.55:1 limited slip
> > rear end (there is also a 3.31:1 and a 3.73:1 ratio but I don't know
> >those
> > codes).
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:41:40 -0500
From: "David Moore [Dmoore Dmoore.com]"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.

C1

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Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.


What is the code for a 3.73:1 LS?


>From: RSnovi aol.com
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>Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.
>Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:17:39 EDT
>
>In a message dated 6/13/99 7:08:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>rdbrown2 hotmail.com writes:
>
>i have 3.73 ls
>
>RS
>
>
> Date: 6/13/99 7:08:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time
> From: rdbrown2 hotmail.com (Robert Brown)
> Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Reply-to: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>
> Check your axle code on the sticker in the driver's door. 18 is a 3.08:1
> open rear end, 19 is a 3.55:1 open rear end, H9 is a 3.55:1 limited slip
> rear end (there is also a 3.31:1 and a 3.73:1 ratio but I don't know
>those
> codes).
> >>
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 01:11:43 EDT
From: Ccdolf aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - 4x4,s and 4x2's

I'm looking into trading my 98 f-150 reg cab 4.2 5 spd 3.55 pick up
in for a 99 f-150 sc 5.4 3.55 or 3.73 i want to get the 4x4, but i'm
being told that the 4x4 cannot tow or haul as much as the 4x2. why is this?
i would think that with stiffer suspension and the extra 4x4 stuff, it would
be able to tow as much or more and haul as much or more.

any comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Bill
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Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 02:50:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Douglas R. Floyd"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 4x4,s and 4x2's

>
> I'm looking into trading my 98 f-150 reg cab 4.2 5 spd 3.55 pick up
> in for a 99 f-150 sc 5.4 3.55 or 3.73 i want to get the 4x4, but i'm
> being told that the 4x4 cannot tow or haul as much as the 4x2. why is this?
> i would think that with stiffer suspension and the extra 4x4 stuff, it would
> be able to tow as much or more and haul as much or more.
....


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