97up-list-digest Friday, August 28 1998 Volume 01 : Number 196



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Looking for Forged Wheel
FTE 97up - Re: - better mileage and power again
FTE 97up - 1999 Off breeds.
FTE 97up - week #34 controled comodities
FTE 97up - Update: 5.4L "piston slap" problem
Re: FTE 97up - 1999 Off breeds.
RE: FTE 97up - Update: 5.4L "piston slap" problem
[none]
FTE 97up - Air Filtration System On F150
FTE 97up - 99 dodge changes
Re: FTE 97up - Engines
Re: FTE 97up - Blue Blood
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F650-750 - pictures

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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:10:33 -0600
From: JJ/Rae
Subject: FTE 97up - Looking for Forged Wheel

I'm looking for one forged wheel for our 97 F-250 as we need a spare and I'd like to
rotate tires through all 5 positions. Anybody have one they would like to get rid
of??

JJ
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USAF Security Forces ICQ # 14108174
1997 F-250HD XLT Powerstroke Diesel 4x4, SC, SB, 5sp, 4.10,
285/75R16 BFG/MT's, K&N Filter, Lund bug deflector,
http://www.ford-trucks.com/pictorial/big/1997_f250_1.html
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.talkcity.com/GasolineAlley/butwhy/index.html


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:06:06 -0700
From: "Alan Wilson"
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: - better mileage and power again

At 01:25 PM 8/27/98 -0400, "Russ Parker" wrote:
>
>>> Does the K&N work, Yes.
>>
>>It probably does clean air better but as far as fuel mileage goes, forget
>it.
>
>

>Sure the other stuff makes an
>improvement, but it's not the magic touch everyone seem to be looking for.
>You either have to be satisfied with the 10-20 horses you can squeeze out of
>a setup or you gotta buck up and go for the gusto.
>-Russ
>
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I guess the bottom line is:

No, getting a K&N Air Filter will not increase HP and gas mileage
noticeably...but it couldn't hurt. But in a combination of an improved
exhaust system and intake some improvement can be seen.
Alan Wilson


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:18:58 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - 1999 Off breeds.

I've heard all about the 1999 Silverado, but has anyone heard if Dodge is
going to make any changes for '99? Also what about the S-10 and Dakota.
Thanks!

Nathan Bernard


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 13:36:35 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - week #34 controled comodities

Expedition- 5.4L controlled at 66%
Power pedals will not schedule until further notice

Explorer- No controls

Ranger- 4.0L exhausted for the week

LT Duty F-series- 4.2L Auto, 4.6L auto, and 5.4L auto all exhausted for the
week
4.6L manual controlled at 32%
XLT controlled at 51%
5.4L and 99E (E4OD) transmission controlled
at 35% and only available on F-250
under 8500 GVW

Super Duty Lariat trim, total pickups, 6.8L, 7.3L, and F-250/350 4x4
SRW are all exhausted for the
week

The following is available for week 34
F350/450 Chassis cab DRW
Crew cab
F-350 DRW pickup
F-550
5.4L
Tutone
XL or XLT


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:34:41 -0400
From: Mark Lee
Subject: FTE 97up - Update: 5.4L "piston slap" problem

Earlier I reported that my 5.4L 97 Expedition had a knock on cold
startup. I was offered 2 options:

1. I could wait in the hope that a fix would became available (at least
as long as my warrantee would allow)
2. Ford would replace the existing engine with a factory rebuilt
engine.

I decided to let time go by in hope that a fix would become available
but I am now only 3000 miles away from warrantee expiration and so I
approached my dealer earlier this week and asked him for an update. I
suggested I would be much happier with a new engine, not a rebuilt one
if engine replacement was the only option. He talked to Ford and had
the following to report: They could not install a NEW engine because of
engineering changes made to the 99's. Apparently Ford is still working
on a fix for the problem and accordingly they will extend my work order
for another 3 months from today (regardless of mileage) in the hope that
a fix will be found soon. They are apparently testing some potential
fixes at this time.

Because I prefer to keep my original engine if possible (the existing
engine burns absolutely Zero oil between changes) I will continue to
wait for a fix if possible. I am concerned that a rebuilt may not have
been treated as well as the one I have and I will be in worse shape over
the long haul. If a fix is not found in the next 3 months, I will have
no alternative but to have the current engine replaced with a rebuilt
one under warrantee from Ford.

Your comments are welcome.


Mark Lee
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 14:55:07 -0400
From: Mark Lee
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 1999 Off breeds.

Info on Dodge lineup changes...

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.stephenames.com/new99.html

Union Auto wrote:
>
> I've heard all about the 1999 Silverado, but has anyone heard if Dodge is
> going to make any changes for '99? Also what about the S-10 and Dakota.
> Thanks!
>
> Nathan Bernard
>
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:44:03 -0700
From: "Johnson, John"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Update: 5.4L "piston slap" problem

I do not believe that option #2 is no longer an option! What if you
wanted to order a new engine for your truck because it had 200,000 miles
on it and required replacement? BUNK!

JJ


> Earlier I reported that my 5.4L 97 Expedition had a knock on cold
> startup. I was offered 2 options:
>
> 1. I could wait in the hope that a fix would became available (at
> least
> as long as my warrantee would allow)
> 2. Ford would replace the existing engine with a factory rebuilt
> engine.
>
> I decided to let time go by in hope that a fix would become available
> but I am now only 3000 miles away from warrantee expiration and so I
> approached my dealer earlier this week and asked him for an update. I
> suggested I would be much happier with a new engine, not a rebuilt one
> if engine replacement was the only option. He talked to Ford and had
> the following to report: They could not install a NEW engine because
> of
> engineering changes made to the 99's
>
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 19:52:10 -0500
From: Kelly Lock
Subject: [none]

Congratulations Ken on having the site in Truckin'!
I cant seem to get my website noticed very well.
I have had about 1600 people to it. And get about 10-20 people a day.
My question is how do i get my site noticed and win auto awards (later) etc.
If anyone would like to view the site it is at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://webhome.idirect.com/~attlee.
Please e-mail me at attlee idirect.com and tell me how to make the site better. Don't tell me through the guestbook.
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 19:55:40 -0500
From: "Ronald R. Palmer"
Subject: FTE 97up - Air Filtration System On F150

Anyone out there ever heard of a air filtration system on the F150. When I
bought my 1998 F150 Supercab the salesman told me "The Air In This Truck Is
30% Cleaner Than The AIr Outside". He told me that the air conditioning and
ventilation system had a filtration system on it. I havent seen anything in
the owners manual about this type of arrangement. I am also curious.... If
there is such a system.....is there a filter that should be changed on a
regular basis. Just curious if anyone out there has heard of this.....

Ron
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 21:04:19 -0500
From: Michael Ruth
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 dodge changes

Nathan and others,
I have been in a couple of 1999 Dodge Trucks at one of my dealers and
the changes for 99 are:

- -Lower profile clearance lights
- -New Dakota looking foglights (brighter)
- -Sport package has different stlye front bumper with big foglights in
the corners and Sport decal on hood
- -New aluminum wheel for 1500 models
- -Dash headlight control is what they call a "Parade Switch" It
switches like a dial versus the old pull type.
- -Small change bin where the power outlet used to be
- -Power outlets located on botton of dash now
- -More functional overhead console w/ sunglass storage/ garage door
opener storage and mileage features with compass and outside temp

Other than that, the same ole boring DODGE RAM.

Mike
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:00:24 EDT
From: BigFords1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Engines

The Lightning F-150 has 325 horsepower. The normal F-150 has 235 (now 260)
horsepower? Why doesn't Ford put the lighting engine in all the F-150's? The
only reason I could think of is maybe the Lightning enggine doesn't have as
much torque.


David
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:08:47 EDT
From: BigFords1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Blue Blood

This guy in my neighborhood has 2 Ch*vy trucks. Both with 454's. One is
lifted, the other is a low rider. He also has a sub*rb*n. Anyway, I was
walking my Rottweiler around the block today and I saw him admiring his brand
new 1999 F-350 SD PSD 4-door. This guy is a die-hard Ch*evy man. What does
that tell you? Even the most Loyal Bow Tie's are starting to pump Blue Blood.


David
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 23:18:50 EDT
From: BigFords1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F650-750 - pictures....

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