97up-list-digest Thursday, August 13 1998 Volume 01 : Number 181



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - 1999 F-150 Prices are in.
Re: FTE 97up - F450 Questions
FTE 97up - 1999 Super Duty F-350 Height Question
Re: FTE 97up - '98 F-150 5.4L probs?
Re: FTE 97up - 1999 Super Duty F-350 Height Question
FTE 97up - Re: FTE Small - Ford Motors
FTE 97up - Re: 97up-list-digest , Rear end question?
Re: FTE 97up - Re: FTE Small - Ford Motors

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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 09:02:56 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 1999 F-150 Prices are in.

FDAF assessment stands for Ford Dealers Advertising Fund. It is a regional
charge so that different areas can run ads and specials (no charge
bedliners, lower intrest than normal, bigger rebates, etc.) to move the
products that sell (or aren't selling) in their area. This fee varies
slightly ($125 on a 99 F-150 in KC region) by region and by vehicle line.
There is no way to get out of this fee unless you have a fleet ID (have 11
vehicles).

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.
Union, IA 50258

- -----Original Message-----
From: Jack B
To: Late-Model F-150 Mailing List ;
97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 1999 F-150 Prices are in.


>Thanks again Nathan!
>
>Just received my priced DORA from my dealer this morning.
>Still showing a DETA of 09/07.
>
>For those wondering how mine priced out here goes: (Price Level 915)
>
>1999 XLT SC 139"wb Flareside, captains chair, 4.6L V-8, automatic, P255 OWL
>tires, 3.55 LTD slip, floor mats, sliding rear window, single CD, keyless
>entry, FDAF assessment?, dest/delv.
>
>Total Invoice: 23,327
>Total Retail: 26,570
>
>What is FDAF assessment?


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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:22:48 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F450 Questions

They quit installing the plugs because most people had a different plug or
needed the wires rerouted to the box for 5th wheels. They still sell the
plug to be put on if you want that style.

Nathan

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From: daryl.rue juno.com
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Cc: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F450 Questions


>What about a 7 pin connector like on the f150's and explorers used to
>connect a trailer? I did not get one and it really confused me why they
>would not make do it like the others. (I did not order a bumber or
>reciever).
>
>Daryl


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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:11:41 GMT
From: jmurin usinternet.com (Jim Murin)
Subject: FTE 97up - 1999 Super Duty F-350 Height Question

I am about to order a 1999 F-350 SuperCab 4x4 DRW with the Powerstroke
diesel and I have a question about the vehicle's height. The Ford
literature specifies the cab height for this truck as 81.2 inches. If
this is accurate then I should have no problem getting it in my garage
since the door opening is 83 inches. Being this close I am concerned
that if the actual truck is higher by only a small amount then it
won't fit. Does anyone know if Ford's height specification is
accurate or if the height can vary from truck to truck? I am also
planning to order the truck with all terrain tires if that matters. I
would think that since the specification is for a truck with the
standard 5.4L engine that the truck might actually sit slightly lower
with the heavier diesel engine. I would try to check this out on
trucks at local dealerships but nobody has this configuration in
stock. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jim Murin

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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:14:58 -0400
From: Kevin Fowler
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - '98 F-150 5.4L probs?

Just to close the loop, it seems that this problem is not a chronic one,
although its very troubling to those who have it. I went back to the
dealer and started it up cold and listened real hard but it sounded
quite normal. Thus, my last fear was put to rest and I took the plunge.
Picking up my new (well, a 1998 :-) F-150 on sunday. I am happy guy.

Kevin.


Kevin Fowler wrote:
>
> I was just about to pull the trigger on buying a 1998 F-150 Supercab 4x4
> Lariat with 5.4L V8, when I ran across a thread on the
> www.f150 online. com message board complaining about a lifter/rings
> engineering problem with these engines. Basically, it causes noise when
> first started that gradually fades as the engine warms. There is concern
> that this problem will manifest itself as serious engine problems,
> probably at around 36,001 miles. Apparently, the problem has been
> addressed/fixed in the 1999 engine.
>
> It was not clear to me from that thread whether this was a chronic
> problem, experienced with every 5.4L on the '98, or if its some small
> percentage. Normally I see nothing but glowing reports about this
> engine, so I was suprised to see this highly negative thread.
>
> Besides this issue, I am ready to buy, so if anyone can set me straight
> quickly, I and my bank account would be grateful...
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:16:26 -0700
From: johny
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 1999 Super Duty F-350 Height Question

I have a 99 Short bed SC 4x4 SRW w/ Power stroke.
It has about 2 -3 inches of clearance in my garage which has a
83 - 84" (7ft) opening. I have the 265 AT tires. (brochure says
80.3" for SRW)

My drive way has a slight incline. (I drive up to the garage).
I also back the truck into the garage when I park.
If I were to put a cab high shell on it, I'm concerned the back end
of the shell might hit the header of the garage door, when backing in.
(also note that back end is higher by a few inches - don't know exact)

It wouldn't be a problem if I parked "nose in".

Needless to say, it's a close enough fit, where you have to check
*everything*. I though I'd have to buy a 55 gal drum of vaseline :-).

Since you probably are getting 235 tires on the DRW, it will be pretty
close to the 81.3".

- -john

Jim Murin wrote:

> I am about to order a 1999 F-350 SuperCab 4x4 DRW with the Powerstroke
> diesel and I have a question about the vehicle's height. The Ford
> literature specifies the cab height for this truck as 81.2 inches. If
> this is accurate then I should have no problem getting it in my garage
> since the door opening is 83 inches. Being this close I am concerned
> that if the actual truck is higher by only a small amount then it
> won't fit. Does anyone know if Ford's height specification is
> accurate or if the height can vary from truck to truck? I am also
> planning to order the truck with all terrain tires if that matters. I
> would think that since the specification is for a truck with the
> standard 5.4L engine that the truck might actually sit slightly lower
> with the heavier diesel engine. I would try to check this out on
> trucks at local dealerships but nobody has this configuration in
> stock. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Jim Murin
>
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 15:06:32 -0700
From: "Alan Wilson"
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: FTE Small - Ford Motors

At 12:13 PM 8/12/98 -0700, "Mr. Peanut" wrote:
Hopefully in the next 2-3 yrs this will be a reality,
>and the ranger will have a V8 option. Just one man's opinion. Anybody
>listening to this at Ford??
>
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I think a V8 is nice but in my opinion if someone wants a V8, they should
get a F-150. 4.0 V6 is all the power a Ranger needs.

Alan's Ford Ranger Site
(http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cris.com/~Usctrojn/Ranger/ranger.shtml)

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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:10:28 EDT
From: Sen4546 aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: 97up-list-digest , Rear end question?

I just purchased the 98 nascar edition F150 with the 4.6L V8 and 4speed auto.
Everything is pretty much the same as a XLT, but the rear end is a 3.73.
I have looked in the brochure, the only 3.73 rear end they offer is in the
F250. I guess my question is what is the difference between the 3.73 and the
3.55 rear ends. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:32:13 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: FTE Small - Ford Motors

It sure would be nice to see the 4.0L SOHC from the Explorer, though,
Hopefully they'll add this soon but it's not in the '99 ordering guide so it
would be Mid year at the earliest.

Nathan

- -----Original Message-----
From: Alan Wilson
To: small-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, August 12, 1998 5:18 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: FTE Small - Ford Motors


>At 12:13 PM 8/12/98 -0700, "Mr. Peanut" wrote:
> Hopefully in the next 2-3 yrs this will be a reality,
>>and the ranger will have a V8 option. Just one man's opinion. Anybody
>>listening to this at Ford??
>>
>----
>I think a V8 is nice but in my opinion if someone wants a V8, they should
>get a F-150. 4.0 V6 is all the power a Ranger needs.
>
>Alan's Ford Ranger Site
>(http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.cris.com/~Usctrojn/Ranger/ranger.shtml)


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