97up-list-digest Sunday, July 5 1998 Volume 01 : Number 139



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FTE 97up - Re: Tire Pressure
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Tire Pressure
FTE 97up - Re:CA.and FED Smog.
FTE 97up - Tire pressure
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Tire Pressure
FTE 97up - F250SD pickup box, and caps (topper's)
FTE 97up - July/fix's
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Tire Pressure

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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 09:42:56 -0400
From: "Jay Bramble"
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Tire Pressure

I have a 97 F-150 4X4. It came with Goodyear RT/S 265/70R16. Of course
they wore out after 23K miles. Those tires should have NEVER been put on a
4X4. I went to a bigger tire. The Goodyear AT/S 305/70R16. Going from a
30" tire to a 33" tire really improved the looks and the AT/S tread pattern
REALLY improved the offroad handling. I have been putting 35' of pressure
in them. Am I ok or should I adjust the pressure



ICQ# 11176412

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Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 09:13:21 -0700
From: WiNk
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Tire Pressure

What does the tire foot print at 90mph look like? If it is bulging in the
center then the right compensation has to occur. Tires change shape at
different speeds, causing some strange wear patterns to occur. If the sides of
the tread are wearing then under inflation is indicated. Weight too, will
affect the tires footprint. With all the variables I would presume that the
optimum pressure would be what the vehicles manufacturer states is the correct
pressures. For no other reason than I "think" what I am doing works, I do the
following. I run the tires at factory specs, then raise the pressures at
different times more or less depending on how I see the tires wearing. Is this
a good system? I don't have the slightest idea, but it seems to work relative
to tire longevity.



Jay Bramble wrote:

> I have a 97 F-150 4X4. It came with Goodyear RT/S 265/70R16. Of course
> they wore out after 23K miles. Those tires should have NEVER been put on a
> 4X4. I went to a bigger tire. The Goodyear AT/S 305/70R16. Going from a
> 30" tire to a 33" tire really improved the looks and the AT/S tread pattern
> REALLY improved the offroad handling. I have been putting 35' of pressure
> in them. Am I ok or should I adjust the pressure
>
> ICQ# 11176412
>
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Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 09:18:43 -0700
From: WiNk
Subject: FTE 97up - Re:CA.and FED Smog.

There are about four states that require CA. smog equipment. The states that I
remember are Ma. Ca. Fl. and whatever else.

My question concerns the advantages, if any, of buying a vehicle without Ca.
smog included with the vehicle. If I did the latter would anything at all
improve in mileage, engine longevity, horsepower, or whatever. Does Federal
smog equate to Ca. smog ? The addtional Ca smog cost about 170 bucks so why not
if it doesn't affect any of the items that I have noted. Somewhere along the
line I thought that I read that the only difference was the chip used to
control emissions.


Thanks for any info.


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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 13:49:02 -0400
From: Claude King
Subject: FTE 97up - Tire pressure

Tire pressure notes on the door are for best ride not best wear. If you
watch your tires you'll notice that the fronts because of turning and
usually more weight than the rears wear on the edges, the rears usually
wear in the middle. So when traveling without much weight in the rear, they
need less pressure than the front. How much to put in the front depends
alot on the tires. My experience has shown that stiff tires, those with
4ply sidewall give a much harsher ride but wear longer and do better with
more pressure when on the front. Nylon based tires flatspot if parked on
hard pavement overnight and take about 20 miles to warm up, [I'm in
florida]. A.lso alot of tires aint round, if fact my tire suppliers knows
how picky I am and always orders five premium tires in because we usually
have to reject one sometimes two for runnout. If you run with stiff shocks,
oversized saybars and 4ply tires that out of round thump is very annoying.
I want all four of my tires to wearout together and evenly across the whole
tread, which ain't easy with fords swing axle. Also very important is
alignment, I like the maximum caster, postive camber, and a little toein
with the passenger side towed in a little more that the driver need to have
a good relationship with you front end man to get this this, usually
requires a twelve pack left in the driver seat. What this give me is a car
that will track on highly crowned roads, and ignore the groves. Also found
that most tires need more rotation in early stages and less as they wear
down. Also the method of rotation varies with tire wear, if they start to
cup on the edges I have to x rotate them, don't let that happen to any
great extent otherwise you never get it out and have a vibrating tire. The
best tires usually only rotate front to rear, maybe once or twice in life
to I X them. Is the increase in tire life worth the Ten bucks to rotate
them? I don't know, but it keeps the ride good. Light vehicles really don't
have this problem like us truck owners do.
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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 15:23:39 -0500
From: "Robert M. Banton"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Tire Pressure

Jay Bramble said

I have a 97 F-150 4X4. It came with Goodyear RT/S 265/70R16. Of course
they wore out after 23K miles. Those tires should have NEVER been put on a
4X4. I went to a bigger tire. The Goodyear AT/S 305/70R16. Going from a
30" tire to a 33" tire really improved the looks and the AT/S tread pattern
REALLY improved the offroad handling. I have been putting 35' of pressure
in them. Am I ok or should I adjust the pressure



I did the same thing, my speedometer is off a good 10 miles per hour at 65
mph.




Robert M. Banton
Banton Appraisals
500 Governors Drive
Huntsville Al 35801
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.banton.com
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Date: Sat, 04 Jul 1998 21:30:37 -0400
From: Lou Mallia
Subject: FTE 97up - F250SD pickup box, and caps (topper's)

Can anyone elaborate on the shape of the pickup box of the Super Duty
series, and whether any of the various cap manufacturers have begun
building caps that fit the contours? Someone posted that the shape was
not the same as previous years (And not a true rectangle). Also, if
they're making them, are the cap manufacturers charging a premium for
caps that fit the Super Duty's?

Thanks,
Lou

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Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 23:38:13 -0400
From: Claude King
Subject: FTE 97up - July/fix's

Anybody heard what changes will be made during the july shutdown, maybe
things like the retractable towing mirrors, better seats, more choices of
colors, sure would like a lariat in something other than that light tan
interior. Also anybody gotten the privacy glass? how dark is it.
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Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 02:50:22 EDT
From: Logerman aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Tire Pressure

Do you have anti locks and if you did how do they respond?
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