97up-list-digest Thursday, September 10 1998 Volume 01 : Number 208



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - F-150 and F-250 Super Duty vehicle heights
FTE 97up - ADMIN: Classified ads section
Re: FTE 97up - F-150 and F-250 Super Duty vehicle heights
FTE 97up - rear spring compression advice
FTE 97up - Picking nit's
Re: FTE 97up - rear spring compression advice
Re: FTE 97up - Picking nit's
Re: FTE 97up - rear spring compression advice
FTE 97up - Week 36 projected commodity controls
FTE 97up - ADMIN: Atlanta Get-together at the Atlanta Motor Speedway

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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 22:52:44 -0400
From: Lou Mallia
Subject: FTE 97up - F-150 and F-250 Super Duty vehicle heights

Could some kind soul please re-post the max heights of two vehicles
please:

1) F-150 4WD Supercab SWB
2) F-250 Super Duty 4WD Supercab SWB

Thanks,
Lou

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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 23:22:22 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Classified ads section

Due to the popular opinion (which I have to admit I agree with) that
the new classifieds pages stink, I've brought back the old classifieds.
I'm in the process of writing my own classifieds manager which I hope
will address the short-comings of both the old and new systems.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 19:41:52 -0800
From: Perry Klein
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-150 and F-250 Super Duty vehicle heights

At 06:52 PM 9/8/98 , you wrote:
>Could some kind soul please re-post the max heights of two vehicles
>please:
>
>1) F-150 4WD Supercab SWB ??????????
>2) F-250 Super Duty 4WD Supercab SWB 80.2"
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fordvehicles.com/fseries/superduty/index.html
>
>Thanks,
>Lou
>
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:38:00 -0400
From: "Bridgman, Derek"
Subject: FTE 97up - rear spring compression advice

I use a 99 F350 dually to tow a fifth wheel. The F350 has both the
trailer and camper package. The fifth wheel weighs 10,700 (dry) and
has a dry kingpin weight of 2,340. Now the question.

With the fifth wheel empty (and the truck fueled, otherwise empty) the
rear springs compress about 3.5 inches from the weight of the fifth
wheel. Should I consider adding air lift bags or is this amount of
compression acceptable?
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 06:15:29 -0700
From: Bob Illingworth
Subject: FTE 97up - Picking nit's

The Hepburn wrote:
>
> > The 1999 SD Power Stroke is Intercooled (reduces air temperatures for
> > more power and as a side effect slightly quieter).
>
> I'm going to pick a nit here: unless the cooler is placed between a pair
> of turbos, the engine is "aftercooled", not "intercooled". I know that
> all the marketing hype says "intercooled" but semantically it's incorrect,
> and any turbo engineer will agree.
>
> Of course, that won't stop me from enjoying the engine, or listening to
> Nathan's great contributions to this list!
>
> ---
>
> Alan Hepburn | |
> National Semiconductor | Proud to be part of the |
> Santa Clara, Ca | Vast Right Wing Conspiracy |
> alanh galaxy.nsc.com | |
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Alan:
as long as you are picking nit's, how do you "LISTEN" to nathan's
contrabutions??????????????????
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 06:20:42 -0700
From: Bob Illingworth
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - rear spring compression advice

Bridgman, Derek wrote:
>
> I use a 99 F350 dually to tow a fifth wheel. The F350 has both the
> trailer and camper package. The fifth wheel weighs 10,700 (dry) and
> has a dry kingpin weight of 2,340. Now the question.
>
> With the fifth wheel empty (and the truck fueled, otherwise empty) the
> rear springs compress about 3.5 inches from the weight of the fifth
> wheel. Should I consider adding air lift bags or is this amount of
> compression acceptable?
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consider "air suspenion" not lift bags, for a better ride with no
trailer and adjustment for any trailer weight.
I put one on my SD550 and it's great.

Bob I
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:37:56 -0400
From: Dorn Hetzel
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Picking nit's

I have a 99 F-350 SD Crew-Cab SRW LWB with the 7.3l Power Stroke,
and I'm REAL happy with the performance. I picked it up from a
dealership in Denver that I located through carpoint. Initial break-in
was driving up Mt. Evans :) Accelerating uphill at 60+ MPH above 13,000ft
was a real kick. Everything else I have ever driven was just coughing at
that altitude ...

-Dorn

On Wed, Sep 09, 1998 at 06:15:29AM -0700, Bob Illingworth wrote:
> The Hepburn wrote:
> >
> > > The 1999 SD Power Stroke is Intercooled (reduces air temperatures for
> > > more power and as a side effect slightly quieter).
> >
> > I'm going to pick a nit here: unless the cooler is placed between a pair
> > of turbos, the engine is "aftercooled", not "intercooled". I know that
> > all the marketing hype says "intercooled" but semantically it's incorrect,
> > and any turbo engineer will agree.
> >
> > Of course, that won't stop me from enjoying the engine, or listening to
> > Nathan's great contributions to this list!
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Alan Hepburn | |
> > National Semiconductor | Proud to be part of the |
> > Santa Clara, Ca | Vast Right Wing Conspiracy |
> > alanh galaxy.nsc.com | |
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> Alan:
> as long as you are picking nit's, how do you "LISTEN" to nathan's
> contrabutions??????????????????
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:39:02 -0400
From: Dorn Hetzel
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - rear spring compression advice

Can you offer any pointers to specific hardware/vendors that don't suck?

On Wed, Sep 09, 1998 at 06:20:42AM -0700, Bob Illingworth wrote:
> Bridgman, Derek wrote:
> >
> > I use a 99 F350 dually to tow a fifth wheel. The F350 has both the
> > trailer and camper package. The fifth wheel weighs 10,700 (dry) and
> > has a dry kingpin weight of 2,340. Now the question.
> >
> > With the fifth wheel empty (and the truck fueled, otherwise empty) the
> > rear springs compress about 3.5 inches from the weight of the fifth
> > wheel. Should I consider adding air lift bags or is this amount of
> > compression acceptable?
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> consider "air suspenion" not lift bags, for a better ride with no
> trailer and adjustment for any trailer weight.
> I put one on my SD550 and it's great.
>
> Bob I
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 16:28:53 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - Week 36 projected commodity controls

This is the estimate of what will be available for week 36 (starts tomorrow)

Expedition
5.4L 24%

Explorer
5.0L 18%
4.0L SOHC 57%
4.0L OHV manual 9%
4.0L OHV auto 17%

Econoline
6.8L 3%

Windstar
4 door 84%
3 door 18%
LX model 100%
SE or SEL model 0%
quad seats 0%

Light Duty F-series
Off road package 0%
XLT 56%
4.6L (auto) 41%
5.4L (44U auto) 13%
4.2L (auto) 45%
5.4L (LD 3/4 ton 44E) 36%

Super Duty F-Series
Lariat Trim 20%
Premium wheels (SRW) 22%
Tutone 37%
Crew Cab 14%
F350 DRW pickup 47%
Total pickups 100%
F-250/350 SRW 4x4 45%
7.3L PSD auto 0%
6.8L 17%

Please note these are estimates so they could change.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.
Union, IA 50258


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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 21:27:19 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Atlanta Get-together at the Atlanta Motor Speedway

Sorry that I didn't get in touch with the people I promised to
call about this. Been working late.

Anyways, for the FTE gathering at the Atlanta Motor Speedway
(US Ford Truck Fest).....

We'll meet Saturday at 3 at the main entrance ticket office.
This is by the club house and condos, Richard Petty statue is
out front.

Mail me if you intend to be there and I'll send you my phone
number so we can chat. I'd like to bring some folding chairs
and perhaps sit down and chat over a late lunch/early dinner.

Peggy and I will be wearing yellow F100 Supernationals t-shirts.
Just look for the heavy guy with brown hair and a beard (ok, not
a good description, there are a million people like that at
truck shows).

Regards,
Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com


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