97up-list-digest Sunday, April 18 1999 Volume 02 : Number 099



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Where to find 550 bed?
Re: FTE 97up - Where to find 550 bed?
Re: FTE 97up - Where to find 550 bed?
FTE 97up - Re:second battery in my f-150?
Re: FTE 97up - Stereo system
Re: FTE 97up - Re:second battery in my f-150?
Re: FTE 97up - Re:second battery in my f-150?
Re: FTE 97up - Re:second battery in my f-150?
FTE 97up - New F450
Re: FTE 97up - New E-350 SD.
RE: FTE 97up - New E-350 SD.
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty Balance out.
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty Balance out.
Re: FTE 97up - Quick Question
Re: FTE 97up - Quick Question

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 07:22:54 -0500
From: "Blanchester Police"
Subject: FTE 97up - Where to find 550 bed?

My brother asked me to try to find a bed for a 550(is this right? 2 ton).
He has heard rumor that an aftermarket company makes a regular style truck
bed for this.....can anyone help?

Corey
blanpolice in-touch.net


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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:24:40 EDT
From: NavJohn aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Where to find 550 bed?

In a message dated 4/17/99 06-23-13, you wrote:

>My brother asked me to try to find a bed for a 550(is this right? 2 ton).
>>He has heard rumor that an aftermarket company makes a regular style truck
>>bed for this.....can anyone help?
>Corey

Contact C&C Fiberglass, Inc., 3659 Destiny Drive, Bremen, IN 46506 (877)
546-2868. This company makes a nice-looking "pickup" style bed for around
$5,000.

John Wilson
Waddy, KY

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 07:32:42 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Where to find 550 bed?

The last issue of Trailer Life (the one that had the V-10 to Power Stroke
coprison) had an article about three companies building these. Brace him
for the price, because every one I've priced has been $7,000 and up.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, inc.

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From: Blanchester Police
To:
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 1999 7:22 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Where to find 550 bed?


> My brother asked me to try to find a bed for a 550(is this right? 2 ton).
> He has heard rumor that an aftermarket company makes a regular style truck
> bed for this.....can anyone help?
>
> Corey
> blanpolice in-touch.net
>
>
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:46:39 -0400
From: Lee Haefele
Subject: FTE 97up - Re:second battery in my f-150?

> At this point you are probably ok. 110 + 85 +350 = 460 watts. Divide by 12 to
> get amps and you are at about 45 .5 amps so yes the alternator should keep up
I assume he meant that the lights were 110 watts EACH, for 2. You may
need more power.
Next there was a question about using ambulance aux alternator
brackets on a gas 5.4, this won't work as all ambulances are Diesel.
If you check companies that mount snowplows, truck bodies or aerial
lifts, there are brackets made to mount belt driven hydraulic pumps,
these should work for an aux alternator, or they may have a specific alt
bracket.
I recommend deep cycle batteries, regular car batteries will not last
if discharged regularly. I use an 8D deep cycle (110 lbs) to power my
aerial lift electro/hydraulic unit. If I don't do enough driving to
recharge the batteries, I charge at night with a 10 amp auto shutoff
charger. The 8D is in the bed, wired with 1/0 cable size, so voltage
front/rear is the same. The $55 group 27 boat batteries are also a good
value for the amount of power, and usually can be made to fit in the
factory mount.
Lee Haefele
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:15:37 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Stereo system

I'd order the CD from Ford, their short supply, but not out. It may add a
week to delivery time but thats about all. The radio includes premium sound
(80 Watts) but doesn't say if that amp is built into the radio or a separate
unit. However the radio does have RDS (radio data system to display call
letters, info, traffic warnings, etc) and Speed sensitive volume control.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, inc

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From: Jarchow, Jaye
To: 'Ford Truck Enthusiasts'
Sent: Friday, April 16, 1999 10:08 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Stereo system


> I just ordered my F-150 4x4 SB SC this week! Can't believe it. I spent
> over a year researching exactly what I
> wanted. Many thanks to the contributors to this newgroup who have
provided
> so much helpful info.
>
> Question: Nathan, maybe you know. When you upgrade to the CD/AM/FM
stereo,
> do you get
> any better speaker system than the standard cassette/AM/FM? My dealer
just
> told me Ford is out of
> stock of the CD/AM/FM units, so I decided to order the standard unit and
> replace it with the CD from
> my car (which I will sell) rather than delay delivery of my truck. Am I
> getting jipped out of anything?
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 08:07:03 -0700
From: "Matt Adams"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re:second battery in my f-150?

Here is what it equals out to more...

Thanks for the tips, here is how it is actually...
350 watt amp = 29 amps +/-
PIAA 520 85 watt total = 7 amps +/-
PIAA 910 110 watt total = 9 amps +/-
PIAA 85 watt replacement headlights = 7 amps +/-
I decided to get rid of the hellas. That equals 52 amps total (if
everything was on), plus the stereo and miscellaneous things. I've got the
heavy duty altenator (though I dont know how many amps that equals and
havent seen it anywhere). Hypothetically, lets say that at one point I have
the stereo, headlights, and driving lights going, should I still be ok? Man,
beware who every drives in front of me, with upwards of 300 watts worth of
lights on there, ouch! LOL.

Matt
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From: Lee Haefele
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, April 17, 1999 5:53 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Re:second battery in my f-150?


>> At this point you are probably ok. 110 + 85 +350 = 460 watts. Divide by
12 to
>> get amps and you are at about 45 .5 amps so yes the alternator should
keep up
> I assume he meant that the lights were 110 watts EACH, for 2. You may
>need more power.
> Next there was a question about using ambulance aux alternator
>brackets on a gas 5.4, this won't work as all ambulances are Diesel.
> If you check companies that mount snowplows, truck bodies or aerial
>lifts, there are brackets made to mount belt driven hydraulic pumps,
>these should work for an aux alternator, or they may have a specific alt
>bracket.
> I recommend deep cycle batteries, regular car batteries will not last
>if discharged regularly. I use an 8D deep cycle (110 lbs) to power my
>aerial lift electro/hydraulic unit. If I don't do enough driving to
>recharge the batteries, I charge at night with a 10 amp auto shutoff
>charger. The 8D is in the bed, wired with 1/0 cable size, so voltage
>front/rear is the same. The $55 group 27 boat batteries are also a good
>value for the amount of power, and usually can be made to fit in the
>factory mount.
>Lee Haefele
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:17:28 EDT
From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re:second battery in my f-150?

good detail Lee and good battery advice. If those ligts get to 110 apiece
that does cronk it up about 9 and change amps per light. The assumption
though is that all of this stuff is going at the same time. That probably
isn't the case but no question, fire it all up for a while and not idle and
you walk home. He's pushing over 50% of the alternator capacity so any
additional stuff will probably make a larger alternator or a second one
desireable.

John G
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:23:00 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re:second battery in my f-150?

Ok, have you thought about a Optima battery? that may do what you looking
for a bit of extra juice. Once mine go in the SD, thats what i am getting i
already have own a couple of them.

RS
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:35:52 -0400
From: j arnold
Subject: FTE 97up - New F450

I just subsribed to this list. Long time member of 61-79 list currently
with five F series pick-ups. I need a new towing vehicle. Mostly gooseneck
trailers, 8,000 to 15,000 pounds gross, 95% on highways. I'm seriosly
considering the F-450, w/Powerstroke (7.3) and 6-speed manual trans and (I
think) 4.88 rears. A crewcab w/176 in wheelbase. This would be my first
diesel (Run mostly 460's w/one 429) and my first new truck of any kind in
quite a few years. Need input. Anybody familiar with or have a truck like
this? Any information relating to this will be much appreciated. Thanks in
advance.

stoney

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 10:57:52 -0500
From: Ron Haynie
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - New E-350 SD.

Hello:

I am looking for info on a 99 E-350 Super Duty - Power Stroke van.
My local dealer can't seem to tell me if it has 4 wheel disc brakes,
Or not. Also, What else is different on a Super Duty van.

Any info would be appreciated :)

Thanks.

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 11:50:33 -0700
From: "Jeff Schapker"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - New E-350 SD.

The E-350 Super Duty has four wheel disc. Check out this site
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fordvehicles.com/econoline/index.html

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[mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com] On Behalf Of Ron Haynie
Sent:Saturday, April 17, 1999 8:58 AM
To:97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject:Re: FTE 97up - New E-350 SD.

Hello:

I am looking for info on a 99 E-350 Super Duty - Power Stroke van.
My local dealer can't seem to tell me if it has 4 wheel disc brakes,
Or not. Also, What else is different on a Super Duty van.

Any info would be appreciated :)

Thanks.

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 15:33:15 -0500
From: "C. K. Hartline"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty Balance out.

Yes, that is a problem, you could consider taking out an ad in the paper
noting the Ranger's vin number and the problems you've had with it, so that
if it's sold to some soul in your area, at least they might have been given
a warning shot over the bow before purchasing an already sinking ship.

I would think the mileage on the vehicle will tell someone it's used and may
cause them to ask questions as to why it's been returned so quickly. I know
I question vehicles like this when being steered toward them by dealers
looking for a quick sell of a 'discounted' unit.

C.K.

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 17:33:20 -0700
From: JJ Thomas
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty Balance out.

Actually the mileage is pretty high on it, about 25,000. I live about 60
miles from work. It does get me around town, but I am unwilling to take it
on my next long trip, to LA. It continues to fall apart. As long as it
does not self destruct all together, I think I'll try to make it through
the summer. This thing eats dash lights faster than I can change it's oil!

- -Julian

At 15:33 04/17/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Yes, that is a problem, you could consider taking out an ad in the paper
>noting the Ranger's vin number and the problems you've had with it, so that
>if it's sold to some soul in your area, at least they might have been given
>a warning shot over the bow before purchasing an already sinking ship.
>
>I would think the mileage on the vehicle will tell someone it's used and may
>cause them to ask questions as to why it's been returned so quickly. I know
>I question vehicles like this when being steered toward them by dealers
>looking for a quick sell of a 'discounted' unit.
>
>C.K.
>
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 21:36:31 -0500
From: Glenn See
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Quick Question

My 1997 F-150 is rusty underneath but not as rusty as a '90 Dodge was when I
brought it home. The dealer answered my complaint by saying they were not
painted because they would run cooler with no paint. For some reason, I did
not believe him.

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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 22:26:23 -0500
From: "C. K. Hartline"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Quick Question

What kind of a crapola response is that?!! They run cooler with no paint
underneath?!! that would be like me making a computer and handing it to the....

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