97up-list-digest Tuesday, March 30 1999 Volume 02 : Number 077



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - F-450
Re:FTE 97up - Performance Mods to 4.0L V6 or Replacement?
FTE 97up - Power Rear Slider
FTE 97up - Melissa Virus-just a caution
Re: FTE 97up - Deflectors
FTE 97up - Pardon my spelling re virus Melissa
Re: FTE 97up - Triton engine in older model frames?
Re: FTE 97up - Deflectors
Re: FTE 97up - Melissa Virus-just a caution
Re: FTE 97up - Ford Recall: Cruise Control!!
Re: FTE 97up - Lariat overhead mph computer ??
Re: FTE 97up - Triton engine in older model frames?
FTE 97up - ADMIN: Virus Warnings
Re: FTE 97up - Triton engine in older model frames?
RE: FTE 97up - Deflectors
FTE 97up - Ball Joint
Re: FTE 97up - F-450
FTE 97up - Speed-o Recall
Re: FTE 97up - F-450
FTE 97up - F250 '99SD Rear View Mirror
FTE 97up - Subject: Trailer Life comparison of F250SD PSD/V10
Subject: FTE 97up - Door weather-stripping
FTE 97up - good news for somebody
Re: FTE 97up - Deflectors
Re: FTE 97up - F250 '99SD Rear View Mirror
FTE 97up - LUND Deflector
FTE 97up - Transmissions
Re: FTE 97up - LUND Deflector
Re: FTE 97up - Speed-o Recall
Re: FTE 97up - Transmissions
Re: FTE 97up - Transmissions
Re: FTE 97up - F250 '99SD Rear View Mirror
Re: FTE 97up - Transmissions
Re: FTE 97up - Subject: Trailer Life comparison of F250SD PSD/V10
Re: FTE 97up - Transmissions
Re: FTE 97up - New Truck arrives!
FTE 97up - Trailer Life comparison of F250SD PSD/V10
Re: FTE 97up - New Truck arrives!
Re: FTE 97up - Subject: Trailer Life comparison of F250SDPSD/V10

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Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 07:07:54 -0400
From: Lee Haefele
Subject: FTE 97up - F-450

Will Ford offer F-450 chassis cabs with gearing other than 4:88? I have
a F-350 DRW V-10, 4:30, the gearing is correct for the 11,000# weight.
The 11,200 GVW does not allow me to carry any cargo on interstates. Do
not want the high RPM/low gas mileage of the 4:88s. Also the F-350 has
weak, poorly proportioned brakes. I buy 1 new truck/year for my fleet
of cable TV bucket trucks, so I am just looking ahead.
Lee Haefele
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 08:09:23 -0500
From: "Mike McNany"
Subject: Re:FTE 97up - Performance Mods to 4.0L V6 or Replacement?

A new engine is a lot of money & hassle. Superchargers more so. The chip
(requiring premium), better flow through (intake & exhaust), and steeper
gearing would be the easiest & cheaper route. Can be done in quick stages
(recommend reverse order written). If you're worried about the heat buildup,
do these three things. Add an OIL cooler, make sure you have the proper mix
of antifreeze (too much antifreeze holds heat better than pure water), add
or increase the size of your separate transmission cooler. As we all know,
over 1/3 of the function of oil is COOLING. Having extra transmission
cooling will allow both better transmission & engine cooling ability. Always
down shift, I have a manual 5sp 92 exploder, so I don't know the particular
ins & outs of the auto but you want to insure that the torque converter
doesn't lock up even if you have pull the long grades in 2nd. Pulling 3.5K#
up West VA hills when moving caused me to have to shift clear down to 2nd
(w/5sp) a couple of times to hold the torque up. The higher output V6 you
mentioned gets it's power at the higher revs anyways, which only occurs
during downshifting. Course now I don't sweat it with my 98 EB Expedition.
If you go that route, the used 97 Expeditions prices are running 2/3 or
under the cost of new if you look at the auctions.
Mike in PA

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 07:11:52 -0700
From: "Matus, Scott A"
Subject: FTE 97up - Power Rear Slider

Has anyone purchased the Ford Factory Power Slider? This is my first Crew
Cab! May I get your opinions about using the rear slider? ( I ordered my
truck without a manual slider. ) What is the difference in wind currents in
using the rear windows over the rear slider? I have been looking for an
aftermarket for some time, Ford's slider is pricey. I searched out a source
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.crlaurence.com/newcrlsite/Pages/ford_sliders1.html

They have the same exact thing at less than half the cost. You can only buy
from them if you have an account. My company has an account with them, but
did not know it. I'm checking if I can make a personal purchase for one.
If anyone else is interested I'd be willing to up the order quantity.
Just e-mail me with your interest.

Scott.
99 F350 PSD CC 4x4
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:41:38 -0800
From: "mlester"
Subject: FTE 97up - Melissa Virus-just a caution

Hi all

There is a new virus that came out on Friday and now infected millions.

It comes a an e-mail and steals your mailing list then sends 50 more
messages to your list members totally unknown to you.

If you receive an e-mail and the subject line reads "Important Message
from - (probably somebody you have received an e-mail from in
the past) Do not open it and try to verify with the sender by land line if
they indeed send you a message.

This one is bad.

Just be careful.

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:30:12 -0800
From: "mlester"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Deflectors

Amen to those directions. They stunk.

Martial

- -----Original Message-----
From: RSnovi aol.com
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, March 28, 1999 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Deflectors


>In a message dated 3/29/99 1:30:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
bwat wa.freei.net
>writes:
>
>I got the one from FoMoCo. price wasnt too crazy and it fits nice,
directions
>can go in the garbage. I sized it up and drilled the holes myself, If i
would
>have wasted the time on looking at directions would have taken under a
hour.
>
>Ross Smith
>9sec93cobra
>99 F250SD PSD/SC/4x4
>
>
> Date: 3/29/99 1:30:25 AM Eastern Standard Time
> From: bwat wa.freei.net
> Sender: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Reply-to: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
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>
> What's the deflector of choice out there for "99 SuperDuty?
>
> i.e., I'd like the pro's & con's of some brands. ANybody have BUGFLECTOR
II
> that came colored? Especially in Oxford White.
> Did it match your truck's paint, great or just OK?
>
> Thanks, bwat in the wet.windy Northwest
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 06:46:02 -0800
From: "mlester"
Subject: FTE 97up - Pardon my spelling re virus Melissa

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 08:49:51 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Triton engine in older model frames?

You might see if you can find a Ford Motorsport catalog, they have a tech
line and sell many engines. As for the auto hubs I would not recomend
puting them on anything. We convert about 2 trucks a week from the old
autolocking hubs back to manual because the auto's are always broke. The
new vacuum operated hubs are good, but stay away from the old style.

Nathan Bernard

- ----- Original Message -----
From: C. K. Hartline
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 1999 8:17 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Triton engine in older model frames?


> Is it possible to put a Triton engine into an older frame, I'm looking to
> put a new Triton engine into an older frame with the electric front hubs
on
> a 4x4. Is this possible? How much work is involved? I believe the
> autolocking front hubs were introduced in the latter half of '89, so I
> would be working with an '89 or new 4x4 frame and the E4OD tranny.
> Would appreciate any input from you Ford servicemen or engine engineering
> experts. All this will be placed under a '41 Ford Sedan Deluxe. I know
> there will be a ton of work to make the body fit the frame, but getting
the
> 4x4 and Triton engine with the chassis is my first step, without actually
> purchasing a brand new truck and throwing the body away.
>
> C.K. Hartline
>


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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 08:55:56 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Deflectors

We've done the Ford shield and Deflecta shield. They are virtually the same
shield (Deflecta must make them for Ford). They fit well and look good. I
prefer the Ford just because of the logo. If you wanted a painted shield
I'd get a clear Deflecta shield and paint the back side.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

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From:
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 1999 8:25 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Deflectors


> What's the deflector of choice out there for "99 SuperDuty?
>
> i.e., I'd like the pro's & con's of some brands. ANybody have BUGFLECTOR
II
> that came colored? Especially in Oxford White.
> Did it match your truck's paint, great or just OK?
>
> Thanks, bwat in the wet.windy Northwest
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:55:50 -0500
From: "Todd E."
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Melissa Virus-just a caution

Just a little more information regarding the Melissa virus, but it comes in
the form of a word document attached to an e-mail from someone you know.
So, you can read the actual e-mail, but don't open any documents, unless
you're sure they are legit. Also, its possible to recieve the virus on a
legitimate word document, if the sender was previously infected. Go to
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.avertlabs.com/public/datafiles/valerts/vinfo/melissa.asp for more
details.




>Hi all
>
>There is a new virus that came out on Friday and now infected millions.
>
>It comes a an e-mail and steals your mailing list then sends 50 more
>messages to your list members totally unknown to you.
>
>If you receive an e-mail and the subject line reads "Important Message
>from - (probably somebody you have received an e-mail from in
>the past) Do not open it and try to verify with the sender by land line if
>they indeed send you a message.
>
>This one is bad.
>
>Just be careful.
>
>Martial
>
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 09:54:26 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Ford Recall: Cruise Control!!

Recall expiration dates vary. On Saftey recalls (have the letter "s" in the
middle of the name ie 98S14) I don't think their is a expiration date or
else it is an extremely long time. The same is true for emission recalls
("E" 98E15), however other recalls do have expiration dates, Last year they
had a recall on air cleaner bolts on 97 Power Strokes. That recall expired
in Dec and now is no longer covered. If their is a expiration date it
should be in the letter you recieve from Ford.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, inc.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Todd E.
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 1999 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Ford Recall: Cruise Control!!


> Funny but I got the same recall on my Dodge Intrepid, and I still haven't
> had the recall work done for the brake line on my SD. Hopefully I can
just
> wait until the cruise control cables come in before bringing the truck in,
> then I can get both the brake line and the cruise done at the same time.
I
> seem to remember something about a deadline for the brake line recall
work.
> Do I have to get it done by some date, before its no longer free?
>
>


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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 10:06:20 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Lariat overhead mph computer ??

The Lariat uses the PCM to tell it how much fuel the injectors are spraying
to calculate mileage. It keeps this averages until you reset the computer.
Usually they are fairly accurate (within 1 MPG) however how much you top
off your tank, and if you've changed tire size can cause your calculated
average and the computers to be different.

Nathan

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Bill
To:
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 1999 5:32 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Lariat overhead mph computer ??


> Does anyone know how the overhead miles per gallon computer
> determines the mileage ??
> Also how often does it update?? Am I seeing average mileage
> or mileage based on the last calculation?? If its average
> my computer shows 12.2 MPG, by my calculations of gallons to
> fill tank vs miles traveled I show 13.76 MPG. I'm not
> complaining about gas mileage, just wondering how it
> calculates.
>
> I'm the guy the transmission cooler failed on then driving
> it home from the dealer at 72 miles. I now have 525 miles
> on pickup, I do have a very light drip (red fluid) on the
> garage floor. I can't see any leaks at the cooler, so maybe
> its just from the original leak. Will be keeping an eye on
> this one. Other than that, its a nice unit. I'll be towing
> our 5th wheel with it first time today. Just a short trip
> of 75 miles. Bill
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 11:18:29 -0600
From: Gary Miller
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Triton engine in older model frames?

I have a 97 F150 with the 4.2l V6 5sp . I changed the rear end gear from a 3.08
to 3.73 in order to help he pulling power of the truck and it did help the
truck a bunch. Now the only problem that I have is the speedo is reading wrong
does anyone know how to fix the problem. Thanks Gary




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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:18:21 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Virus Warnings

Read the FAQ on the web site (http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html)
concerning virus warnings. You have been warned.
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:40:34 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Triton engine in older model frames?

In a message dated 99-03-29 11:19:14 EST, you write:


yes you can get a speedo to remidy the problem , or it may need the converter
box, like some newer mustangs need, im not sure check with a driveline
maufacture.

RS

I have a 97 F150 with the 4.2l V6 5sp . I changed the rear end gear from a
3.08
to 3.73 in order to help he pulling power of the truck and it did help the
truck a bunch. Now the only problem that I have is the speedo is reading
wrong
does anyone know how to fix the problem. Thanks Gary

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 12:56:41 -0500
From: "Suarez, William"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Deflectors

I have a Lund deflector made of smoke colored Lexan on my SD. I had a Lund
on my F-150 for about 2 1/2 years without any problems/issues.

- -----Original Message-----
From: bwat wa.freei.net [mailto:bwat wa.freei.net]
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 1999 5:25 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Deflectors


What's the deflector of choice out there for "99 SuperDuty?

i.e., I'd like the pro's & con's of some brands. ANybody have BUGFLECTOR II
that came colored? Especially in Oxford White.
Did it match your truck's paint, great or just OK?

Thanks, bwat in the wet.windy Northwest
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:22:49 -0500
From: "Mitchell"
Subject: FTE 97up - Ball Joint

I got lazy and decided to have the local tire guys rotate my tires and get
an inspection sticker for my 1998 F150 SC 4x4 w/ 18,700 miles. It didn't
pass inspection! They said the right side lower ball joint had too much
play in it. They said the spec is 1/32-inch and the play was 1/8-inch. I
have an appointment with the dealer tomorrow. This is the second Ford
vehicle I have owned which needed ball joints prematurely. The first
vehicle was a 92 explorer w/26,000 miles on it. On that one the dealer said
that the ball joints came from the factory without any grease in them.
Imagine that.

Stephen


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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:00:36 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-450

No information as of yet.

Nathan

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Lee Haefele
To:
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 1999 5:07 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - F-450


> Will Ford offer F-450 chassis cabs with gearing other than 4:88? I have
> a F-350 DRW V-10, 4:30, the gearing is correct for the 11,000# weight.
> The 11,200 GVW does not allow me to carry any cargo on interstates. Do
> not want the high RPM/low gas mileage of the 4:88s. Also the F-350 has
> weak, poorly proportioned brakes. I buy 1 new truck/year for my fleet
> of cable TV bucket trucks, so I am just looking ahead.
> Lee Haefele
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:12:50 -0600
From: DanBrotzman
Subject: FTE 97up - Speed-o Recall

As near as I can tell the affected Superduty trucks were built between =
March 2, 1998 and March 4, 1999. Parts are not available yet, just =
helpful info from Ford ... don't use your cruise. Duh!!

Dan, 99 SD CC 4X4 CC PSD 6SD XLT LB

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 17:21:52 EST
From: BigFords1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-450

In a message dated 3/29/99 7:21:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,
haefele clarityconnect.com writes:


weak, poorly proportioned brakes >>
Are you kidding?! My F-350 has great brakes! I couldn't be happier!

David
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:27:49 -0700
From: "Gary Smith"
Subject: FTE 97up - F250 '99SD Rear View Mirror

The passenger side rear view mirror is not convex on the truck I recently
took delivery of. This is a safety issue as all recently manufactured
vehicles have a convex mirror on passenger side as standard. Are all Super
Duty trucks like this? I did not order the trailer towing mirrors as they
are very large.

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:19:22 -0500
From: RAY WRIGHT
Subject: FTE 97up - Subject: Trailer Life comparison of F250SD PSD/V10

Read that article,confirms what I suspected the powerstroke is well
worth the xtra money,although they used some high prices in quoting the
oil changes,I can buy a motorcraft oil filter at walmart for under
$10.00,also in the northeast where I live diesel is cheaper than gas by
at least 10 cents.Just my opinion guys.

Ray Wright tworites home.com
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:25:06 -0500
From: RAY WRIGHT
Subject: Subject: FTE 97up - Door weather-stripping

My 1999 sd sc came with the strips,but my brother in-laws crew cab
did'nt he called the dealer and told them he wanted them for all
4 doors,they ordered them for him and he installed them himself,no
charge for the strips.

Ray Wright Windsor Ct.
tworites home.com
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:04:43 -0500
From: zman
Subject: FTE 97up - good news for somebody

hello,

I have been just reading for a couple weeks and think I may wait until
next year to order an SD. All the problems people on the list are having
makes me want to stay with my 66 f100 for a little longer. Anyway, the
good news is on my way back to Cinci from Dayton (I live in OH) I saw 3
truck loads of SD's going north on 75. Somebody is going to be happy.


bye
joe

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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:09:35 -0800
From: "Neil Plocek"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Deflectors

I am a big fan of the "Interceptor" made by Lund. The reason I selected
this brand was the fact that it does not use those little rubber bumpers
that you stick to the hood of you vehicle. When properly mounted, the Lund
Interceptor stands away from the sheet metal far enough that you can easily
clean behind it. It is easy to install, and fits and looks great!

I believe any brand can be painted to match the color of your truck.

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Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:24:46 -0800
From: "Neil Plocek"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F250 '99SD Rear View Mirror

You are not alone! I was a bit disappointed to find a regular mirror there.

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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:54:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Adry Gimenez
Subject: FTE 97up - LUND Deflector

I got a 99 F-350, and I purchased a LUND bug deflector. There is something realy weird about mine though. On the edges, where it curves with the body, it is notched up on the driver side and notched down on the passenger side. It looks like it was done on purpose but at the same time it just doesnt look right.Its too much of a clean cut to be broken off. Does anybody have this same problem??????

Thanks,
Becks2


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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:10:11 -0600
From: "C. K. Hartline"
Subject: FTE 97up - Transmissions

Can anyone tell me if the 5.4 Triton V-8 and the 6.8 Triton V-10 use the
same E4OD automatic transmission? If not what are the differences in the
transmissions? I'm still working on finding a chassis and drive train to
put up under my 41 Ford thats completely modern.

C.K. Hartline
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:23:29 -0600
From: "C. K. Hartline"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - LUND Deflector

I would consider taking it back and checking out the rest of the stores
inventory, sounds like you got a factory second...but thats my opinion based
on your description.

C.K. Hartline
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 18:08:12 PST
From: "Frank Spor"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Speed-o Recall

My truck was built in January, and By VIN is affected...So much for that
theory.

My cruise works fine.

I will practice an emergency procedure...and keep using it. I promise
not to use it in traffic...But then I never did.

I promise not to use it with the Trailer....But then I never did.

It is something the engineers discovered...There have been no reported
problems...According to the recall site....

Works good, lasts a long time, Don't F##K with it.

Frank


>From: DanBrotzman
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To:
"'97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com'"
>Subject: FTE 97up - Speed-o Recall
>Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 16:12:50 -0600
>
>As near as I can tell the affected Superduty trucks were built between
March 2, 1998 and March 4, 1999. Parts are not available yet, just
helpful info from Ford ... don't use your cruise. Duh!!
>
>Dan, 99 SD CC 4X4 CC PSD 6SD XLT LB
>
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 18:27:08 -0800
From: johny
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Transmissions

In the Super Duty, the automatic transmissions are the same and
designated 4R100 (next generation E4OD). I don't know what transmission
they use in the 5.4 on the LD trucks.

I've been following this thread with interest, how about a PSD instead of a
V10? Also might as well look for a 4R100 with a PTO port too (out of
and XL or XLT) :-). If you go the PSD, you can get an Aux Idle control.

You sure it's not cheaper to buy a chassis cab, and throw away the cab. :-)?

Also - You might be able to get some good SD frame infor here:
(SD body builders guide)

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.meadowlandford.com/pdf/index.pdf


C. K. Hartline wrote:

> Can anyone tell me if the 5.4 Triton V-8 and the 6.8 Triton V-10 use the
> same E4OD automatic transmission? If not what are the differences in the
> transmissions? I'm still working on finding a chassis and drive train to
> put up under my 41 Ford thats completely modern.
>
> C.K. Hartline
> cakid stlmo.com
> ca-kid swbell.net
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 21:00:40 -0600
From: "C. K. Hartline"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Transmissions

Thanks Johny,
Sooner or later I'm gonna get everything in line and begin the process
of cutting the frame to the body. As far as the idea of a PSD goes I'm just
not much for that loud rattling sound coming from an engine
always sounded that way to me>...the idea is have a "Wolf in Sheep's
Clothing"...wouldn't do to have the Wolf growling at everyone now would it?
LOL...I'll keep you all posted as I find the information I need and as the
build progresses.

C.K. Hartline
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:29:58 -0800
From: JJ Thomas
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F250 '99SD Rear View Mirror

I had a G** that had the right convex mirror. I had the dealer replace it
with a flat mirror. I would rather have two flat mirrors that the one
right side convex mirror.

My $.02

- -Julian


At 16:27 03/29/99 -0700, you wrote:
>The passenger side rear view mirror is not convex on the truck I recently
>took delivery of. This is a safety issue as all recently manufactured
>vehicles have a convex mirror on passenger side as standard. Are all Super
>Duty trucks like this? I did not order the trailer towing mirrors as they
>are very large.
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:09:02 -0600
From: "C. K. Hartline"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Transmissions

Ok now you have me really interested in how the power take off works....I
noted that it lists the 6.8 V-10 as well as the PSD...is this something that
will work with a 4x4 system as well? I can see now I'm gonna have to get
educated really quick on these things...this is simply amazing! I assume
the PTO is for hauling large loads such as camping trailors and such. What
is the capability of this without a load on the transmission? Or is this a
taboo thing to consider. I will continue to read, and as I am educating
myself, continue to dream and desire this wonderful combination of V-10 and
4R100 under my 41. I am so glad I've determined to make this project all
Ford...it's looking so fantastic just working on the ability of the
drivetrain alone.

C.K.
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 19:51:56 -0800
From: George Passidakis
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Subject: Trailer Life comparison of F250SD PSD/V10

They also based the cost savings on purchasing the PSD at sticker price.
The payback is quicker if you got your PSD at, or near, invoice price.

George.

At 03/29/99 07:19 PM, you wrote:
>Read that article,confirms what I suspected the powerstroke is well
>worth the xtra money,although they used some high prices in quoting the
>oil changes,I can buy a motorcraft oil filter at walmart for under
>$10.00,also in the northeast where I live diesel is cheaper than gas by
>at least 10 cents.Just my opinion guys.
>
>Ray Wright tworites home.com
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:11:43 -0600
From: "C. K. Hartline"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Transmissions

ooops...sorry upon further reading I see the PTO is workable with the 4x4
setup...this new SD setup and options are really awesome!!

C.K.
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 20:28:33 -0800
From: The Hepburn
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - New Truck arrives!

Jean Marc Chartier wrote:
>
> > I finally found something to complain
> > about though: they moved the high beam switch from its proper location
> > on the floor, up to the turn signal stalk ...
>
> At least you won't complain when the darned thing rusts and
> sticks on hi. I have a manual tranny in my 97 F-150 and it
> makes shifting and flashing at the same time possible. It
> also has flash to pass where you just pull it towards you
> and it goes to hi beams until you release it. Hard to do
> with a floor button..
>
Yeah, I know ... but I had to find SOMETHING to complain about! Actually,
my 1990 F350 had the switch on the floor, and it still worked when I
sold it last month - here in sunny California there's not much to
promote rust since I don't drive off-road.

Oh yeah; I just remembered another "problem": the fuel filler has a
restrictor in it that just barely fits the regular pumps - a high
capacity pump nozzle will never fit - I'll be changing that!

Alan Hepburn


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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 21:24:10 -0800
From: "Kevin Mayer"
Subject: FTE 97up - Trailer Life comparison of F250SD PSD/V10

One of the points I find interesting about the fuel cost comparison is that
they base it on regular grade. I would never use regular when towing with a
gas engine because of the chance of pinging. I'm also quite certain that if
I had the V-10, I would put a chip in it which would require premium.

Kevin

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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 02:10:15 PST
From: "Frank Spor"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - New Truck arrives!

Since the topic is complaints....Wait until you use the windshield
washer (since it never rains in CA) with the drivers window open...even
just a little.
....

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