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In this issue:

FTE 97up - aftermarket mufflers
FTE 97up - 99 SD CC 4X4 PSD F350 6 SPD
FTE 97up - V-10 Sound
FTE 97up - Dually tire rotation recommendations?
Re: FTE 97up - 99 SD CC 4X4 PSD F350 6 SPD
FTE 97up - Pennzoil Problems
Re: FTE 97up - Dually tire rotation recommendations?
Re: FTE 97up - aftermarket mufflers
FTE 97up - Island Blue available on F-150
Re: FTE 97up - V-10 Sound
Re: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires
RE: FTE 97up - V-10 Sound
FTE 97up - Fwd: Trucks
Re: FTE 97up - aftermarket mufflers
FTE 97up - Camper Elec. Hookup
Re: FTE 97up - Pennzoil Problems
FTE 97up - 99 F150 speakers
Re: FTE 97up - 99 SD CC 4X4 PSD F350 6 SPD
Re: FTE 97up - 99 SD CC 4X4 PSD F350 6 SPD
Re: FTE 97up - Camper Elec. Hookup
FTE 97up - Lopsided Suerduty.
RE: FTE 97up - 99 F150 speakers
Re: FTE 97up - Lopsided Suerduty.
Re: FTE 97up - Lopsided Suerduty.
Re: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires
Re: FTE 97up - aftermarket mufflers

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 05:57:11 PST
From: "Jordan Rautiola"
Subject: FTE 97up - aftermarket mufflers

I keep reading about Gibson and other "ready to install" cat-back
exhaust/muffler systems. A local shop installed a very high quality Flo
Pro stainless muffler (no packing, all welded, very similar to
Flowmaster) with a custom "Y" exiting, then two exhaust pipes going out
the back under the muffler, welded to two 18" long chrome tips. The
hole system was welded (no clamps), and extra hangars used for added
support. The installed price was $240, it took them over three hours,
first rate job. It sounds really nice, just a slight rumble at idle,
more rumble underway and as more throttle is applied. Very happy. I
don't understand why anyone would pay this much just for the hardware,
and then most of the "home installed" systems are clamped not welded.
I'm at a total loss. I guess it's a free country.

'99 F150 SC/LB XLT 5.4L 4x4 w/Dunlop 285/75-16 Rovers, Flo Pro
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:09:18 -0600
From: DanBrotzman
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 SD CC 4X4 PSD F350 6 SPD

I'm one of those goofy people that are not happy with a vehicle until I =
inspect it top to bottom, front to rear. I noticed the rear axle vent =
tube has a plastic fitting on the end to prevent water from getting in =
the vent tube, then on down into the differential. The front axle =
however does not have this fitting, in my opinion this will allow water =
or rain mist to get in the front vent tube and eventually into the front =
axle. Am I correct, shouldn'd the front axle also have a fitting like =
the rear axle?
Also there is an electrical plug fastened to the back side of the front =
drivers side fender liner. This plug is open to the elements and I don't =
see any other wires with a matching plug anywhere close to mate with the =
one that is currently fastened there. In my opinion if the existing two =
wires and plug are not needed, then the plug should be capped to prevent =
corrosion or possible electrical shorting when water finds its way into =
this plug the first time I drive in the rain. Can someone help me out? I =
thought possibly this might be for front ABS which I do not have, and =
the passenger side does not have a plug like this.

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:23:10 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: FTE 97up - V-10 Sound

I can tell you one thing, the Borla dual exhaust cat-back system on the V-10
'99 SuperDuty F-350 is not "high-pitched", but is a nice medium to
low-pitched growl. However, because you have 2 more cylinders firing per
every 2 revolutions (remember, it's a 4-stroke!), you don't as much of the
distict "burble" noise V-8 are noted for, but it has other qualities that
sound good. I am going to record the V-10 dual exhaust sound and post it,
when I get a chance.

Keith



From: Landen Stoker
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results


>Mike,
>
>I am not sure if you were meaning to address this one to me after all the
talk
>about the higher pitched V10. Keith is the one with the V10. If you were
asking
>about the V6, I think the best way to describe it is, not as noticeable. It
has
>the same growl as a V8 just not as loud, kind like a "baby V8" :-) I was
>impressed with the sound I was worried that it would sound pathetic. But it
>sounds really good for a V6.
>Landen
>
>"Strukel, Mike" wrote:
>
>> Landen,
>>
>> Do you have your Gibson system installed yet? If so, how would you
>> describe the sound compared to a V8? Higher pitched?
>>
>> Mike Strukel
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:55:00 GMT
From: bturner ida.org (Ben Turner)
Subject: FTE 97up - Dually tire rotation recommendations?

Anyone willing to share any recommendations for what to do about tire
rotation for a dually?

The owners manual for our '99 F350 PSD DRW 4x4 indicates that you can swap
the front tires/wheels left to right, but seems to recommend not doing anything
else.

Local dealer response to the question has ranged from "don't do anything
and just eat the early tire wear becoming noticable around 20k" to "hmmmm, those
wheels are too big for our balancing machine so go to a truck tire center and
have them dismount and remount tires for your rotation and expect to pay a lot."

If I should go the dismount/remount route, what rotation pattern should I
follow? Does it matter if I have a matching spare? Are there any pros and cons
concernting static vs dynamic balancing after the remount?

If you recommend rotation, what schedule should be used?

Best,
Ben Turner
bturner ida.org



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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 09:21:44 -0600
From: "Joseph L. Casey"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 SD CC 4X4 PSD F350 6 SPD

It is possible that the plug is for a block heater. Mine was/is on the driver's side. If you can see where the wire goes, that might give a good clue. If still in doubt, as I was, ask a mechanic to apply his expertise!

DanBrotzman wrote:

> I'm one of those goofy people that are not happy with a vehicle until I inspect it top to bottom, front to rear. I noticed the rear axle vent tube has a plastic fitting on the end to prevent water from getting in the vent tube, then on down into the differential. The front axle however does not have this fitting, in my opinion this will allow water or rain mist to get in the front vent tube and eventually into the front axle. Am I correct, shouldn'd the front axle also have a fitting like the rear axle?
> Also there is an electrical plug fastened to the back side of the front drivers side fender liner. This plug is open to the elements and I don't see any other wires with a matching plug anywhere close to mate with the one that is currently fastened there. In my opinion if the existing two wires and plug are not needed, then the plug should be capped to prevent corrosion or possible electrical shorting when water finds its way into this plug the first time I drive in the rain. Can someone help me out? I thought possibly this might be for front ABS which I do not have, and the passenger side does not have a plug like this.

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Date: 25 Mar 99 15:15:51 America/Fort_Wayne
From: TOM WILSON
Subject: FTE 97up - Pennzoil Problems

Does anyone know of any problems using Pennzoil in our trucks? I've hear=

Pennzoil has parafin in it and tends to gum up and cause problems with ou=
r
engines. Does anyone know if this is true. I've always used Pennzoil an=
d
have never had any troubles, but my '99 F150 is my first new vehicle I do=
n't
want to cause any problems because of the oil. Thanks for any help in
advance.

Tom Wilson
tomumr usa.net
'99 F150 4X4, ORP, Regular Cab, Flair Side

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:11:19 EST
From: RAMWORKER aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Dually tire rotation recommendations?

Hi Ben, my responses are scattered throughout your post:

In a message dated 3/25/99 6:57:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, bturner ida.org
writes:

> Anyone willing to share any recommendations for what to do about tire
> rotation for a dually?

Don't rotate

> The owners manual for our '99 F350 PSD DRW 4x4 indicates that you can
> swap
> the front tires/wheels left to right, but seems to recommend not doing
> anything
> else.

I'm assuming you have the aluminum wheels, I am so jealous! :)

> Local dealer response to the question has ranged from "don't do
> anything
> and just eat the early tire wear becoming noticable around 20k" to "hmmmm,
> those
> wheels are too big for our balancing machine so go to a truck tire center
> and
> have them dismount and remount tires for your rotation and expect to pay a
> lot."

They're right, you can't justify that expense on a regular basis to save a
little wear on your tires. Look at this way, a new set of six tires might
cost about, oh, say roughly $900 maybe? How much do they want to
rotate your tires? A bunch, I'll bet. How much extra wear can you
expect from regular rotations? I'll wager very little extra wear will be
saved.
I'd use my money for a few extra wheel alignments. FWIW, I've found my
local truck service center to be much cheaper than anyone else on
alignments. How about $19 vs. $78 for a local independent shop vs. $65
for my local dealer. Why is the truck shop so much cheaper? Because
all I ever need is the toe-in set, camber and caster are always fine, they
charge for the work they actually do vs. a flat rate for a complete wheel
alignment. I hope you can find a similar arrangement.

> Are there any pros and cons concernting static vs
> dynamic balancing after the remount?

I didn't know anybody still used static balancing. Go dynamic!

Best Regards,
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:15:17 -0800
From: Chuck Haugen
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - aftermarket mufflers

Jordan....does this system have any effect on the HP or Torque?...how about on
a F250 LD 5.4L 4x4 sb xc 3.73ls ?

Jordan Rautiola wrote:
>
> I keep reading about Gibson and other "ready to install" cat-back
> exhaust/muffler systems. A local shop installed a very high quality Flo
> Pro stainless muffler (no packing, all welded, very similar to
> Flowmaster) with a custom "Y" exiting, then two exhaust pipes going out
> the back under the muffler, welded to two 18" long chrome tips. The
> hole system was welded (no clamps), and extra hangars used for added
> support. The installed price was $240, it took them over three hours,
> first rate job. It sounds really nice, just a slight rumble at idle,
> more rumble underway and as more throttle is applied. Very happy. I
> don't understand why anyone would pay this much just for the hardware,
> and then most of the "home installed" systems are clamped not welded.
> I'm at a total loss. I guess it's a free country.
>
> '99 F150 SC/LB XLT 5.4L 4x4 w/Dunlop 285/75-16 Rovers, Flo Pro
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 22:54:23 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - Island Blue available on F-150

Just got a color chip from Ford on a new color available for F-150/250LD.
Its called Island Blue and is a blue-green color. Its simmilar to the old
teal only much darker.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.


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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 23:01:44 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - V-10 Sound

Does it sound simmilar to the Viper GTS on the Borla ( www.borla.com ) web
page?

Nathan

- -----Original Message-----
From: Keith Veren
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 8:24 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - V-10 Sound


>I can tell you one thing, the Borla dual exhaust cat-back system on the
V-10
>'99 SuperDuty F-350 is not "high-pitched", but is a nice medium to
>low-pitched growl. However, because you have 2 more cylinders firing per
>every 2 revolutions (remember, it's a 4-stroke!), you don't as much of the
>distict "burble" noise V-8 are noted for, but it has other qualities that
>sound good. I am going to record the V-10 dual exhaust sound and post it,
>when I get a chance.
>
>Keith
>
>
>


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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:29:43 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires

In a message dated 99-03-24 19:53:35 EST, you write:

man how you plan on getting that thing with more lift? i know a good place
that sells trampolines.

Ross S.
9sec93cobra
99 F250SD PSD/SC/4x4



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HI Keith, I saw you were asking about tires & wheels. I have a 99 superduty
250 crew cab V-10. I have a three inch lift on it. (3 inches in front and 1
inch in the rear) I am running 35 inch BFG AT's. they are the 16.5 x
12.5's.
I also went with the Weld Scorpio rims. I wasn't sure I made the right
choice
until I saw them on the truck. Once I saw them on though, they were just
what
I was hoping for. The only clearance problem I have is if I turn the
steering
wheel all the way right and hit a bump at the same time. The tire barely
rubs
on the inside of the wheel well (the black plastic lining). I could easily
trim this, but I think I am going to lift the truck two more inches, to get
the desired look I am after. Hope this helps. Mike
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:57:22 -0600
From: "Strukel, Mike"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - V-10 Sound

The custom cat back system (with a glass pack) that I looked at the other
day sounded kind of similar to the Viper on the Borla page, it was also a
close match to the VW Beetle sound! Seriously!

Mike Strukel

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Union Auto [SMTP:unionaut adiis.net]
> Sent:Thursday, March 25, 1999 11:02 PM
> To:97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:Re: FTE 97up - V-10 Sound
>
> Does it sound simmilar to the Viper GTS on the Borla ( www.borla.com ) web
> page?
>
> Nathan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Veren
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 8:24 AM
> Subject: FTE 97up - V-10 Sound
>
>
> >I can tell you one thing, the Borla dual exhaust cat-back system on the
> V-10
> >'99 SuperDuty F-350 is not "high-pitched", but is a nice medium to
> >low-pitched growl. However, because you have 2 more cylinders firing per
> >every 2 revolutions (remember, it's a 4-stroke!), you don't as much of
> the
> >distict "burble" noise V-8 are noted for, but it has other qualities that
> >sound good. I am going to record the V-10 dual exhaust sound and post
> it,
> >when I get a chance.
> >
> >Keith
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:25:30 +800
From: bwat wa.freei.net
Subject: FTE 97up - Fwd: Trucks

****** Forwarded Message Follows *******
>To: owner-97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com
>From: bwat wa.freei.net
>Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 20:39:56 +800
>You guys are a wealth of info...THANKS TO ALL. My 99.5 F250
>sd sc 4x4 V-10 Lariat has been in my hands for a week now. Pretty nice truck!!

> LOTS OF QUESTIONS...
>
>What's the final determination on synthetic trans fluid? Is the RedLine "safe"

>to use?
>
>Norm...Let us know how the radio removal went and how well the
>CB works with the combo set-up
>
>Anybody heard of a bedliner called ARAMA (sp?) out of Eugene,
>OR?
>
>Gene Ball...THANKS...I hope this trans cooler does it's job!
>
>I ordered my truck on 1/5/99 and it arrived in Seattle 3/12/99. It
>took about 3+ weeks to get here from Chicago (it was ready to go
>on 2/21) I bought it thru a truck only dealership..they may have some sort

>of priority..anyway I'm happy NOW
>
>Bwat, from the wet Northwest
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:28:17 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - aftermarket mufflers

Jordan Rautiola wrote:
>
> I keep reading about Gibson and other "ready to install" cat-back
> exhaust/muffler systems. A local shop installed a very high quality Flo
> Pro stainless muffler (no packing, all welded, very similar to
> Flowmaster) with a custom "Y" exiting, then two exhaust pipes going out
> the back under the muffler, welded to two 18" long chrome tips. The
> hole system was welded (no clamps), and extra hangars used for added
> support. The installed price was $240, it took them over three hours,
> first rate job. It sounds really nice, just a slight rumble at idle,
> more rumble underway and as more throttle is applied. Very happy. I
> don't understand why anyone would pay this much just for the hardware,
> and then most of the "home installed" systems are clamped not welded.
> I'm at a total loss. I guess it's a free country.
>
> '99 F150 SC/LB XLT 5.4L 4x4 w/Dunlop 285/75-16 Rovers, Flo Pro
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Jordan,

When I purchased a Borla for my 97 F150 no other companies
had a bolt on system for my truck. All the local shops used
crunch bent pipes and would not give more than 1 year
warranty. Any shop that had stainless wanted an arm and a
leg for their work. I wanted stainless so that is what I
got. The best, Borla.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:33:24 +800
From: bwat wa.freei.net
Subject: FTE 97up - Camper Elec. Hookup

I'll be hauling my 9 1/2 ft camper on my new '99.5 SD 4X4. I need to hook up
the lights, etc and am wondering where to run the wires from. I ordered both
the camper and trailer tow package so there is a bundle of wires at the rear
of the box that I "think" I can use (I could take it in for $100, but if I do
it myself, it'll be done the way I want it). Is this bundle the best way to
go or?? Also, I'll need to add a second battery (besides the one in the camper).
Has anybody done this and if so , where did you put the battery?

Thanks, Brent Waters
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:12:43 -0500
From: "Todd E."
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Pennzoil Problems

That was true of Pennzoil about 40 years ago, when Pennzoil actually came
from Pennsylvania oil reserves, which were rich in paraffin. Now all oil is
pretty much the same. Pennzoil buys the oil from the same refineries as
everyone else, and get it from all over the world.


- -----Original Message-----
From: TOM WILSON
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 10:16 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Pennzoil Problems


>Does anyone know of any problems using Pennzoil in our trucks? I've hear
>Pennzoil has parafin in it and tends to gum up and cause problems with our
>engines. Does anyone know if this is true. I've always used Pennzoil and
>have never had any troubles, but my '99 F150 is my first new vehicle I
don't
>want to cause any problems because of the oil. Thanks for any help in
>advance.
>
>Tom Wilson
>tomumr usa.net
>'99 F150 4X4, ORP, Regular Cab, Flair Side
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:15:42 -0600 (CST)
From: "Billy B. Campbell"
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 F150 speakers

I'm a recent subscriber.

I love my 99 F150 flareside supercab (geez, a mouthful)
but I don't care much for the stereo.

I found John Meyers page on replacing the speakers, so
I'm halfway there. But my question is whether anyone
has successfully installed 6x9 speakers in front doors
(the back is less important to me).

I realize this is a long shot, but 6x9 footprint
speakers are twice as good as the 6x8/5x7 stock size.

Tnx in advance,
Billy C.

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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:08:40 -0800
From: johny
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 SD CC 4X4 PSD F350 6 SPD

Hmm, I'll have to take a closer look at the vent tubes on my axles...

But the plugs you refer to in your wheel wells are the plugs for ABS.
I bet if you look harder, you will find the plug on the passenger side.
I have ABS, and would be surprised that the passenger side is missing.

The ABS system they use in the 99 SD is a 3 channel setup.
Rear and 2 front channels.

if you are woried about exposure, I suppose saran wrap, or silcon sealant,
or a combination of the above, might do the trick... If you have access
to a surplus electronics part place, you'd be amazed at some of the stuff
they have - still would most likely *not* be waterproof though.


DanBrotzman wrote:

> I'm one of those goofy people that are not happy with a vehicle until I inspect it top to bottom, front to rear. I noticed the rear axle vent tube has a plastic fitting on the end to prevent water from getting in the vent tube, then on down into the differential. The front axle however does not have this fitting, in my opinion this will allow water or rain mist to get in the front vent tube and eventually into the front axle. Am I correct, shouldn'd the front axle also have a fitting like the rear axle?
> Also there is an electrical plug fastened to the back side of the front drivers side fender liner. This plug is open to the elements and I don't see any other wires with a matching plug anywhere close to mate with the one that is currently fastened there. In my opinion if the existing two wires and plug are not needed, then the plug should be capped to prevent corrosion or possible electrical shorting when water finds its way into this plug the first time I drive in the rain. Can someone help me out? I thought possibly this might be for front ABS which I do not have, and the passenger side does not have a plug like this.
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:08:40 -0800
From: johny
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 SD CC 4X4 PSD F350 6 SPD

Hmm, I'll have to take a closer look at the vent tubes on my axles...

But the plugs you refer to in your wheel wells are the plugs for ABS.
I bet if you look harder, you will find the plug on the passenger side.
I have ABS, and would be surprised that the passenger side is missing.

The ABS system they use in the 99 SD is a 3 channel setup.
Rear and 2 front channels.

if you are woried about exposure, I suppose saran wrap, or silcon sealant,
or a combination of the above, might do the trick... If you have access
to a surplus electronics part place, you'd be amazed at some of the stuff
they have - still would most likely *not* be waterproof though.


DanBrotzman wrote:

> I'm one of those goofy people that are not happy with a vehicle until I inspect it top to bottom, front to rear. I noticed the rear axle vent tube has a plastic fitting on the end to prevent water from getting in the vent tube, then on down into the differential. The front axle however does not have this fitting, in my opinion this will allow water or rain mist to get in the front vent tube and eventually into the front axle. Am I correct, shouldn'd the front axle also have a fitting like the rear axle?
> Also there is an electrical plug fastened to the back side of the front drivers side fender liner. This plug is open to the elements and I don't see any other wires with a matching plug anywhere close to mate with the one that is currently fastened there. In my opinion if the existing two wires and plug are not needed, then the plug should be capped to prevent corrosion or possible electrical shorting when water finds its way into this plug the first time I drive in the rain. Can someone help me out? I thought possibly this might be for front ABS which I do not have, and the passenger side does not have a plug like this.
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 17:52:53 -0500
From: "Bill Wood"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Camper Elec. Hookup

Check my posting at ford-trucks.com/bbs/index.html
Look for "Campers and Super Duty 22:54 03-02-1999
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From: bwat wa.freei.net
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Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 1:55 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Camper Elec. Hookup


>I'll be hauling my 9 1/2 ft camper on my new '99.5 SD 4X4. I need to hook
up
>the lights, etc and am wondering where to run the wires from. I ordered
both
>the camper and trailer tow package so there is a bundle of wires at the
rear
>of the box that I "think" I can use (I could take it in for $100, but if I
do
>it myself, it'll be done the way I want it). Is this bundle the best way
to
>go or?? Also, I'll need to add a second battery (besides the one in the
camper).
> Has anybody done this and if so , where did you put the battery?
>
>Thanks, Brent Waters
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:33:52 4
From: "Vaughn (VDB)"
Subject: FTE 97up - Lopsided Suerduty.

Hi all,

I noticed my 99 F250 SC SB 4X4 sits about
one 1/2" to 3/4" or so low on the drivers side
rear. I measured from floor to highest point on
wheel well using the center of the wheel as reference.
Its absolutely noticeable when looking from
behind the truck. The front looks to be approx. 1/4"
low on same side.
Now I noticed the fuel tank is more toward
the drivers side, could that be enough (1/4-1/2 tank
of fuel) to do this or is something not right??
I thought I remember somebody bringing this up.
and was told dealer would shim it up??

Thanks
Vaughn
99 F250 SD SC SB XLT 4X4 5.4
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 18:35:52 -0600
From: "Sapp MK (Mark) at MSXSCC"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 99 F150 speakers

Billy- I installed the Pioneer 6x8's, 3-way (TSA-6815), in my F-150 and they
really sound great. It took me only 45 minutes to install all four. The
bass is stronger and the highs are crisper. Overall, I'm very pleased with
the quality, clarity, and attainable volume of these speakers.

Mark K. Sapp
Operations - Phenol Acetone, DPCP
(713) 246-1157
mksapp shellus.com

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> Sent:Thursday, March 25, 1999 2:16 PM
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> Subject:FTE 97up - 99 F150 speakers
>
>
> I'm a recent subscriber.
>
> I love my 99 F150 flareside supercab (geez, a mouthful)
> but I don't care much for the stereo.
>
> I found John Meyers page on replacing the speakers, so
> I'm halfway there. But my question is whether anyone
> has successfully installed 6x9 speakers in front doors
> (the back is less important to me).
>
> I realize this is a long shot, but 6x9 footprint
> speakers are twice as good as the 6x8/5x7 stock size.
>
> Tnx in advance,
> Billy C.
>
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 20:06:28 EST
From: BIGDAAG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Lopsided Suerduty.

Hi Vaughn, I had the same problem on my Toyota a couple of years ago. It was
just a bad leaf spring. They replaced it and I never had another problem. I
bet you've got the same thing. Don't let them shim it, insist on a new
spring, or springs. Maybe the low one is OK, but the high one is arched too
much. I'm not sure, but I would guess when you get the rear leveled out, it
will also take care of the 1/4 inch in front.
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 20:14:30 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Lopsided Suerduty.

Yes, you should ask your dealer to use shims (each one is 3/8" so two of
them would be 6/8 = 3/4") under the leaf springs on the low side to even
things up.
There is actually a specific repair for this. Tell your dealer to look in
the 1999 F-SuperDuty 250/350/450/550 Workshop Manual Volume 1 on page
204-00-28 "Vehicle Lean Correction" - Front F-250/350 4X2 or 4X4 also
204-00-31 "Vehicle Lean Correction" - Rear F-250/350 4X2 and 4X4. The fix
involves adding shims between the axle and the springs on the low side (if
both sides are too low, they say you can add shims to both sides to raise
vehicle). Also, you may want to go to a spring shop, they can "re-arch" the
lower spring to make it even. I know how you feel, I hate it when trucks
lean!


Keith




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From: Vaughn (VDB)
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, March 25, 1999 6:41 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Lopsided Suerduty.


>
> Hi all,
>
> I noticed my 99 F250 SC SB 4X4 sits about
> one 1/2" to 3/4" or so low on the drivers side
>rear. I measured from floor to highest point on
>wheel well using the center of the wheel as reference.
> Its absolutely noticeable when looking from
>behind the truck. The front looks to be approx. 1/4"
>low on same side.
> Now I noticed the fuel tank is more toward
>the drivers side, could that be enough (1/4-1/2 tank
>of fuel) to do this or is something not right??
> I thought I remember somebody bringing this up.
>and was told dealer would shim it up??
>
>Thanks
>Vaughn
>99 F250 SD SC SB XLT 4X4 5.4
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 20:22:08 EST
From: BIGDAAG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires

Hi Ross, The kit I have on my truck is kind of unique. One of the techs at
the dealer has them fabricated at a local shop. The rear is just a 1 inch
block. pretty basic. The front is lifted 3 inches. This is done with new
leaf spring mounts, and still using the stock springs. The stock mounts are
made of 1/4 inch steel, but the new ones are 3/8 inch. They look a lot
beefier. He also includes a new track bar with the lift. With the kit
installed, I cant tell a difference in ride quality from the stock set up,
just that I have to step higher to get in. :) The best part is that the
factory rep OK'ed the set up and it won't void my warranty.
To get two more inches I think I will use add-a-leafs in the rear, and on
the front, I think I will use new springs from an after-market leveling kit.
I will also have to lengthen the sway bar brackets. I'm not sure this is the
way to go, I'm open to suggestions.
Mike
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 20:23:37 -0800
From: "Matt Bailey"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - aftermarket mufflers

FYI,

I installed an aftermarket 3" core, 26" long glasspack in place of the
factory muffler retaining the factory tail pipe, the V-10 definitly has a
different sound but I kinda like it, not to loud, just enough to hear a
little rumble at an idle and kind of a Viper type sound from 2500 to 4000
rpm's. This cost me a total of $70 installed by a local muffler shop, I
highly recommend it over a $300 system.

Mattb
99 SD SC V-10

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