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RE: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
RE: FTE 97up - Customer service number/boxcar tracking?
Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
Re: FTE 97up - Customer service number/boxcar tracking?
Re: FTE 97up - Customer service number
Re: FTE 97up - Wheel load rating
Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
Re: FTE 97up - Wheel load rating
FTE 97up - Oil Drain Valve
Re: FTE 97up - Customer service number
Re: FTE 97up - Oil Drain Valve
FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires
Re: FTE 97up - Customer service number
Re: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires
Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
RE: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires
Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
Re: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires
RE: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
RE: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
Re: FTE 97up - Oil Drain Valve
Re: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires
FTE 97up - Aftermarket Stereo install kit
Re: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires
Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 06:19:25 -0600
From: "Strukel, Mike"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results

Last night I took a trip over to the custom exhaust shop that has done a
custom cat back on my 96 Dodge and my 68 Bronco. They happened to have a
V10 SD, that
they just finished putting a custom cat back system on that had a glass pack
on it (This is what I always do). Anyway, he started it up and I was
able to hear the truck.
All I can say is that I saved $250! It sounded terrible. It did not
have the low, deep growl that is typical for V8s, but instead had a high
pitched tone, more like a European sports car. I was not impressed at
all.


Ken Payne - If Keith sent you a cassette with a recording of what his
Borla system sounded like, do you have a way to put it on the FTE web page
as a .wav file???
Keith - Would you be able(willing) to make a cassette and send it to Ken?


Just an idea.


Mike Strukel




> -----Original Message-----
> From:Keith Veren [SMTP:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net]
> Sent:Tuesday, March 23, 1999 9:38 AM
> To:97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
>
> I paid about $650.00, (including tax, shipping and hardware) for my Borla
> Cat-Back system on the Expedition and $665.00 , (including tax, shipping
> and
> hardware) for the Dual Pipe Cat-Back system for the '99 F-350 V-10.
> Installation of each system was about $110.00 at my dealer. How much was
> the Gibson System(s)?
>
>
> Keith
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Landen Stoker
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 8:55 AM
> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
>
>
> >Hi Keith,
> > I did shop around alot. I investigated all the major brands for about
> 4
> >months. I called all the service techs at the various manufacturers and
> gathered
> >alot of valuable information. The reason I went with Gibson was that I
> could not
> >justify spending so much extra on a Borla system. I do believe Borla is
> better
> >though, I really like the high grade stainless steel that they use. It
> also
> >looks nice. The Gibson stainless setup is lower grade and not polished
> but
> it is
> >still better than aluminized. I was really surprised when I found out
> that
> there
> >u-bolts were not even aluminized, kinda odd. I investigated Flowmaster
> seriously
> >also and in my opinion the Gibson is better than Flowmaster by a little,
> but not
> >as good as Borla.
> >
> >Landen
> >
> >Keith Veren wrote:
> >
> >> I installed the borla Stainless Steel Exhaust on my '98 Expedition and
> was
> >> so happy with it I installed the dual-pipe (rear-exit) cat-back system
> on
> my
> >> '99 F-350 SuperDuty / SuperCab / XLT / 4X4 / V-10 / SRW / LongBed. I
> had
> >> looked into Gibson, but did not do a comparison between that and Borla,
> >> because I was happy with the Borla on my '98 expedition.) On all
> Borla
> >> systems, the hardware is stainless steel and comes with a million mile
> >> warrantee. However, I do wish I had comparison shopped, just to make
> sure I
> >> did not miss something. Did you investigate different brands or just
> decide
> >> to go with the Gibson based on ads or recommendations from friends? If
> you
> >> did comparison shop, could you list the factors that sold you on
> Gibson?
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Keith
> >
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 08:18:57 -0600
From: "Strukel, Mike"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Customer service number/boxcar tracking?

A while back, someone was able to track rail cars for shipping. My
truck is on it's way to the dealer, and the box car # is TTGX965566. Can
someone tell me how to track this?


Thanks,

Mike Strukel

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Charles Abraham [SMTP:abrahamc agcs.com]
> Sent:Tuesday, March 23, 1999 4:39 PM
> To:97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:Re: FTE 97up - Customer service number
>
> 1-800-392-3673 then after you connect, push 3 (Ford), then wait for next
> voice
> about "recording your call" and push 3 again; next, enter your home phone
> number plus area code.
>
> Whoever answers should be able to gave you the actual "produced date", the
> date it was built. And maybe even the box car number it was shipped on,
> something like "TTGX139...."; they won't know what this is but if they
> have it
> we may be able to track it on the railroad.
>
> Good luck,
>
> Charles.
>
> Jody Villa wrote:
>
> > Hi all, my 99.5 250SD Lariat CC SWB PSD was built the week of February
> 22nd
> > and was suppose to be delivered to the dealer the week of March 11th.
> >
> > Now I know that there is a tie up in delivery but the dealer has just
> told
> > me that he has no idea where it is. Is it possible that he can't trace
> where
> > the truck is at any moment? Anyway, I'm looking for the customer care
> number
> > or what ever number you folks are using to get the latest info on your
> truck
> > after it's been made.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jody
> >
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:52:53 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results

I will be happy to try!!


Keith

>
>Ken Payne - If Keith sent you a cassette with a recording of what his
>Borla system sounded like, do you have a way to put it on the FTE web
page
>as a .wav file???
>Keith - Would you be able(willing) to make a cassette and send it to Ken?
>
>
>Just an idea.
>
>
>Mike Strukel
>
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Keith Veren [SMTP:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 9:38 AM
>> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
>>
>> I paid about $650.00, (including tax, shipping and hardware) for my Borla
>> Cat-Back system on the Expedition and $665.00 , (including tax, shipping
>> and
>> hardware) for the Dual Pipe Cat-Back system for the '99 F-350 V-10.
>> Installation of each system was about $110.00 at my dealer. How much was
>> the Gibson System(s)?
>>
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Landen Stoker
>> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 8:55 AM
>> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
>>
>>
>> >Hi Keith,
>> > I did shop around alot. I investigated all the major brands for
about
>> 4
>> >months. I called all the service techs at the various manufacturers and
>> gathered
>> >alot of valuable information. The reason I went with Gibson was that I
>> could not
>> >justify spending so much extra on a Borla system. I do believe Borla is
>> better
>> >though, I really like the high grade stainless steel that they use. It
>> also
>> >looks nice. The Gibson stainless setup is lower grade and not polished
>> but
>> it is
>> >still better than aluminized. I was really surprised when I found out
>> that
>> there
>> >u-bolts were not even aluminized, kinda odd. I investigated Flowmaster
>> seriously
>> >also and in my opinion the Gibson is better than Flowmaster by a little,
>> but not
>> >as good as Borla.
>> >
>> >Landen
>> >
>> >Keith Veren wrote:
>> >
>> >> I installed the borla Stainless Steel Exhaust on my '98 Expedition
and
>> was
>> >> so happy with it I installed the dual-pipe (rear-exit) cat-back system
>> on
>> my
>> >> '99 F-350 SuperDuty / SuperCab / XLT / 4X4 / V-10 / SRW / LongBed. I
>> had
>> >> looked into Gibson, but did not do a comparison between that and
Borla,
>> >> because I was happy with the Borla on my '98 expedition.) On all
>> Borla
>> >> systems, the hardware is stainless steel and comes with a million mile
>> >> warrantee. However, I do wish I had comparison shopped, just to make
>> sure I
>> >> did not miss something. Did you investigate different brands or just
>> decide
>> >> to go with the Gibson based on ads or recommendations from friends?
If
>> you
>> >> did comparison shop, could you list the factors that sold you on
>> Gibson?
>> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >> Keith
>> >
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>> >
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 09:16:39 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Customer service number/boxcar tracking?

Equipment Location T L E Train Dest Flatcar ID RR
Init Number City ST Mo DDZHHMM E V ID City ST InitNum SCAC

TTGX 965566 CHICAGO IL 03 24 0350 L D CHICAGO M IL NS

Hope this helps

Charles.

"Strukel, Mike" wrote:

> A while back, someone was able to track rail cars for shipping. My
> truck is on it's way to the dealer, and the box car # is TTGX965566. Can
> someone tell me how to track this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Strukel
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charles Abraham [SMTP:abrahamc agcs.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 4:39 PM
> > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Customer service number
> >
> > 1-800-392-3673 then after you connect, push 3 (Ford), then wait for next
> > voice
> > about "recording your call" and push 3 again; next, enter your home phone
> > number plus area code.
> >
> > Whoever answers should be able to gave you the actual "produced date", the
> > date it was built. And maybe even the box car number it was shipped on,
> > something like "TTGX139...."; they won't know what this is but if they
> > have it
> > we may be able to track it on the railroad.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Charles.
> >
> > Jody Villa wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all, my 99.5 250SD Lariat CC SWB PSD was built the week of February
> > 22nd
> > > and was suppose to be delivered to the dealer the week of March 11th.
> > >
> > > Now I know that there is a tie up in delivery but the dealer has just
> > told
> > > me that he has no idea where it is. Is it possible that he can't trace
> > where
> > > the truck is at any moment? Anyway, I'm looking for the customer care
> > number
> > > or what ever number you folks are using to get the latest info on your
> > truck
> > > after it's been made.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Jody
> > >
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:31:24 -0500
From: "Jody Villa"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Customer service number

- -----Original Message-----
From: Charles Abraham
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Customer service number


>1-800-392-3673 then after you connect, push 3 (Ford), then wait for next
voice
>about "recording your call" and push 3 again; next, enter your home phone
>number plus area code.
>
>Whoever answers should be able to gave you the actual "produced date", the
>date it was built. And maybe even the box car number it was shipped on,
>something like "TTGX139...."; they won't know what this is but if they have
it
>we may be able to track it on the railroad.
>
Unfortunately, the person spoke to couldn't give me anything specific to my
truck. He apologized for the delay and took my name, address, and phone
number and said to contact my dealer. He did say all the auto companies are
experiencing delays in shipping. Is something going on with the rail system?

Jody


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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 07:46:49 -0800
From: George Passidakis
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Wheel load rating

It depends on your intended use.

I believe the stock wheels are rated at 3,200 or 3,400 lbs each. If you
want aluminum(forged) wheels the Alcoa, Weld Racing and Mickey Thompson are
rated for 3,200lbs. Most other aluminum(cast) wheels are rated for
2,000lbs max.

Make sure your new tires can also handle the load.

I just put 16x8 Weld "Super Single II" wheels and BFG 295-75R16 tires on my
new F-350 4x4. Looks much better than stock.

George

At 03/23/99 09:24 PM, you wrote:
>
> Whats the minimum load rating I should be
>looking for, for wheels for my 99 F250 SD?
>
>Thanks
>Vaughn


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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:55:32 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results

Keith Veren wrote:
>
> I will be happy to try!!
>
> Keith
>
> >
> >Ken Payne - If Keith sent you a cassette with a recording of what his
> >Borla system sounded like, do you have a way to put it on the FTE web
> page
> >as a .wav file???
> >Keith - Would you be able(willing) to make a cassette and send it to Ken?

- -snip-

Go ahead and send it to pictures ford-trucks.com, make a note
in the email what it is or I'll forget!

Ken
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:25:37 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Wheel load rating

The factory wheels are rated for 3,415 max wheel capacity (lbs ground). So
I'd reccomend getting something as strong as these. If your not hauling or
pulling much you could get away with less.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Vaughn (VDB)
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 8:32 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Wheel load rating


>
> Whats the minimum load rating I should be
>looking for, for wheels for my 99 F250 SD?
>
>Thanks
>Vaughn
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 11:41:54 -0500
From: "Suarez, William"
Subject: FTE 97up - Oil Drain Valve

'morning folks,

In my newest copy of the Performance Products catalog they show an brass
spring loaded valve for replacing the standard oil drain plug. Looks like a
handy device, no more fishin' for the plug in the waste oil or burning your
hands on hot oil.

Performance Products does not list one for the 99 SD's w/ the PSD and only
lists their vendor as: "FUMOTO".

Is anyone familiar with that name? I'd like to contact them to see if they
have one for the PSD pan.

Or perhaps another source??

Thanks,

Bill Suarez

99 F250SD SC PSD Lariat

_____________________________________________________________
William J. Suarez
mailto:wsuarez netsilicon.com
NETsilicon Inc. - Director of Technical Services
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.netsilicon.com/


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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:44:21 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Customer service number

Try again. I must have called them twenty times or more and never got the same
person twice. If you've got a VIN number, ask for the "last updated" date shown
on their computer for your truck's VIN. And with that same screen up they should

then be able to tell you the status of your truck and all associated codes -
like "buck"
for in production (being built) or "TTGX...." the railroad boxcar number.

As for delays and problems with the railroad, you probably just read Mike's
truck
was successfully delivered early this morning to the Chicago "mixing yard". But
only
yesterday there was a derailment just south of Chicago. So things can and do
happen.

Nathan of Union Auto, indicated on an earlier post that the dealer has the
capability
to run a trace (I believe he used another term) on your truck for you.

Regards,

Charles.

Jody Villa wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charles Abraham
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 5:45 PM
> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Customer service number
>
> >1-800-392-3673 then after you connect, push 3 (Ford), then wait for next
> voice
> >about "recording your call" and push 3 again; next, enter your home phone
> >number plus area code.
> >
> >Whoever answers should be able to gave you the actual "produced date", the
> >date it was built. And maybe even the box car number it was shipped on,
> >something like "TTGX139...."; they won't know what this is but if they have
> it
> >we may be able to track it on the railroad.
> >
> Unfortunately, the person spoke to couldn't give me anything specific to my
> truck. He apologized for the delay and took my name, address, and phone
> number and said to contact my dealer. He did say all the auto companies are
> experiencing delays in shipping. Is something going on with the rail system?
>
> Jody
>
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 12:18:44 EST
From: ATUMLAW aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Oil Drain Valve

In a message dated 3/24/99 11:48:01 AM Eastern Standard Time,
WSuarez netsilicon.com writes:


spring loaded valve for replacing the standard oil drain plug. >>

I have one of these in my 99 F-150 and am very happy with it. Also, had one
on my 97 F. Bought the same thing in 85 for my Mustang GT, and never had any
problems with it. JMC had pointed out that serious off roaders may have
problems with the valve as it hangs lower than the factory plug. This is not
a problem for me as I don't take my trucks off road.

Hope this helps

Atilla Babacan
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 12:42:13 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires

George, what is the height of your new tires? I installed the Tuff Country
3.5" lift on the front of my '99 F-350 SuperDuty / 4X4 / V-10 / SuperCab /
SRW / Longbed to make it sit level and now I am looking for taller tires to
fill the bigger wheel well space.

Keith


>
>Make sure your new tires can also handle the load.
>
>I just put 16x8 Weld "Super Single II" wheels and BFG 295-75R16 tires on my
>new F-350 4x4. Looks much better than stock.
>
>George
>
>At 03/23/99 09:24 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> Whats the minimum load rating I should be
>>looking for, for wheels for my 99 F250 SD?
>>
>>Thanks
>>Vaughn
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 00:07:59 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Customer service number

The dealer can call OPC (order processing center) and have a trace initiated
if the truck is 2 weeks late. It takes a few days to find anything out
after this, but it usually results in the vehicle arriving about the time
Ford calls the dealer to tell where it is.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Charles Abraham
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Customer service number


>Try again. I must have called them twenty times or more and never got the
same
>person twice. If you've got a VIN number, ask for the "last updated" date
shown
>on their computer for your truck's VIN. And with that same screen up they
should
>
>then be able to tell you the status of your truck and all associated
codes -
>like "buck"
>for in production (being built) or "TTGX...." the railroad boxcar number.
>
>As for delays and problems with the railroad, you probably just read Mike's
>truck
>was successfully delivered early this morning to the Chicago "mixing yard".
But
>only
>yesterday there was a derailment just south of Chicago. So things can and
do
>happen.
>
>Nathan of Union Auto, indicated on an earlier post that the dealer has the
>capability
>to run a trace (I believe he used another term) on your truck for you.
>
>Regards,
>
>Charles.
>


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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 10:14:20 -0800
From: George Passidakis
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires

Kieth,

I'm still at stock height. They are 33.2 inches high, per BF Goodrich.
They look pretty good but there is still plenty of room in the wheel wells.
Go to http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bfgoodrich.com for complete specs.

How does the ride compare to stock with the new front springs?

George

At 03/24/99 12:42 PM, you wrote:
>
>George, what is the height of your new tires? I installed the Tuff Country
>3.5" lift on the front of my '99 F-350 SuperDuty / 4X4 / V-10 / SuperCab /
>SRW / Longbed to make it sit level and now I am looking for taller tires to
>fill the bigger wheel well space.
>
>Keith
>

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 12:26:49 -0600
From: Landen Stoker
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results

I paid 295.00 + tax for my Gibson Keith. I also added two polished stainless
steel Gibson tips for 50.00.

Landen

Keith Veren wrote:

> I paid about $650.00, (including tax, shipping and hardware) for my Borla
> Cat-Back system on the Expedition and $665.00 , (including tax, shipping and
> hardware) for the Dual Pipe Cat-Back system for the '99 F-350 V-10.
> Installation of each system was about $110.00 at my dealer. How much was
> the Gibson System(s)?
>
> Keith

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 12:57:19 -0600
From: "Strukel, Mike"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires

The 295s are about an inch taller and slightly narrower than a 33x12.50
(which is really a 32" tire). I think a 35" tire would be about perfect,
but there is really not much to choose from as far as tires and rims.
Most 35s only come in a 16.5" wheels (or 15" not an option). To my
knowledge, there is only 1 wheel offered so far for the SD in a 16.5" rim.
There are only a couple of options in tires for a 16" wheel too. BFG - 285
and 295. SuperSwamper SSR Radial is releasing 35x12.50x16s and
33x12.50x16, but they are not available yet, are lousy in the snow/ice,
and do not wear well. In another year or so, there will be plenty of
option, but not much too chosose from now.

Personally, I have ordered the 2" Superlift and am going to go with
American Racing - Atlas wheels (16x8) with BFG All Terrains in 295/75R16s.


Mike Strukel
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> From:Keith Veren [SMTP:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net]
> Sent:Wednesday, March 24, 1999 11:42 AM
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> Subject:FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires
>
>
> George, what is the height of your new tires? I installed the Tuff
> Country
> 3.5" lift on the front of my '99 F-350 SuperDuty / 4X4 / V-10 / SuperCab /
> SRW / Longbed to make it sit level and now I am looking for taller tires
> to
> fill the bigger wheel well space.
>
> Keith
>
>
> >
> >Make sure your new tires can also handle the load.
> >
> >I just put 16x8 Weld "Super Single II" wheels and BFG 295-75R16 tires on
> my
> >new F-350 4x4. Looks much better than stock.
> >
> >George
> >
> >At 03/23/99 09:24 PM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> Whats the minimum load rating I should be
> >>looking for, for wheels for my 99 F250 SD?
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>Vaughn
> >
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 14:10:47 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results

Wow! That is quite a lot less expensive than the Borla system. Sounds like
you did good. I just hope the extra cost of my Borla system is worth it in
the long run, still, I could change the Gibson almost 3 times for the cost
of 1 Borla.



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From: Landen Stoker
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results


>I paid 295.00 + tax for my Gibson Keith. I also added two polished
stainless
>steel Gibson tips for 50.00.
>
>Landen
>
>Keith Veren wrote:
>
>> I paid about $650.00, (including tax, shipping and hardware) for my Borla
>> Cat-Back system on the Expedition and $665.00 , (including tax, shipping
and
>> hardware) for the Dual Pipe Cat-Back system for the '99 F-350 V-10.
>> Installation of each system was about $110.00 at my dealer. How much was
>> the Gibson System(s)?
>>
>> Keith
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 14:17:18 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires

Because I have an 8' Fisher commercial plow (I do not plow commercially, but
they could not put the "homeowner's" lighter-duty version on the F-350) that
weighs 875 pounds that I put on in the winter, they recommended that I go
with the heavier springs on the 3.5" lift kit (they have the lighter 3.5"
lift kit for the 5.4L and they have the heavier one for the diesel, the 6.8L
can use either). Because I got the heavier ones it rides a little stiff
when empty, but then again, I like it that way. Of course, when I load it
up, and put the plow on, there is no sag or softness, and the front does not
go down when I lift the plow. The truck sits pretty much dead-level either
loaded or empty.

Keith




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From: George Passidakis
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires


>Kieth,
>
>I'm still at stock height. They are 33.2 inches high, per BF Goodrich.
>They look pretty good but there is still plenty of room in the wheel wells.
> Go to http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bfgoodrich.com for complete specs.
>
>How does the ride compare to stock with the new front springs?
>
>George
>
>At 03/24/99 12:42 PM, you wrote:
>>
>>George, what is the height of your new tires? I installed the Tuff
Country
>>3.5" lift on the front of my '99 F-350 SuperDuty / 4X4 / V-10 / SuperCab /
>>SRW / Longbed to make it sit level and now I am looking for taller tires
to
>>fill the bigger wheel well space.
>>
>>Keith
>>
>
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:25:32 -0600
From: Todd Styles
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results

FWIW, Gale Banks has just released their "GIT-KIT" for the '99 PSD that
includes the cat-back and chip. I was quoted $795 for the package. They
also have another package that has a hotter chip and new downpipe as well
for $1295. These were the prices quoted to me over the phone. The git-kit
is rated at 40HP and 70 torque, the other kit is rated at 75HP and 100
torque increase. They don't have anything available for the 99 1/2 PSD yet.
It's also interesting that they have an upgrade path that includes free
reprogramming of the chip to match the componants.
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 13:28:21 -0600
From: "Strukel, Mike"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results

Landen,

Do you have your Gibson system installed yet? If so, how would you
describe the sound compared to a V8? Higher pitched?

Mike Strukel

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Keith Veren [SMTP:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net]
> Sent:Wednesday, March 24, 1999 1:11 PM
> To:97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
>
> Wow! That is quite a lot less expensive than the Borla system. Sounds
> like
> you did good. I just hope the extra cost of my Borla system is worth it
> in
> the long run, still, I could change the Gibson almost 3 times for the cost
> of 1 Borla.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Landen Stoker
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
>
>
> >I paid 295.00 + tax for my Gibson Keith. I also added two polished
> stainless
> >steel Gibson tips for 50.00.
> >
> >Landen
> >
> >Keith Veren wrote:
> >
> >> I paid about $650.00, (including tax, shipping and hardware) for my
> Borla
> >> Cat-Back system on the Expedition and $665.00 , (including tax,
> shipping
> and
> >> hardware) for the Dual Pipe Cat-Back system for the '99 F-350 V-10.
> >> Installation of each system was about $110.00 at my dealer. How much
> was
> >> the Gibson System(s)?
> >>
> >> Keith
> >
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 15:08:16 -0600
From: "Joseph L. Casey"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Oil Drain Valve

I have used that oil-drain plug on a 460 and now on my 99 Diesel Powerstroke.

The address is:
Fumoto Eng. of America
12328 Northrup Way
Bellevue, WA 98005
fax is 425-869-2558
phone is 425-869-7771

There are two versions of the plug. One allows the user to put a small,
like/about 1/4 inch, drain hose on the end and the other does not have that
provision.

The one without provision for the drain hose is F-111 for the 99 Powerstroke,\
For the 460 the number is F-106

But to be certain, ask for the brochure which has all the part numbers for
nearly all cars or trucks, and pictures and prices.

I have found it very convenient.

Since I sold my 460, I will be happy to unload the drain plug for the 460 to
some one.


"Suarez, William" wrote:

> 'morning folks,
>
> In my newest copy of the Performance Products catalog they show an brass
> spring loaded valve for replacing the standard oil drain plug. Looks like a
> handy device, no more fishin' for the plug in the waste oil or burning your
> hands on hot oil.
>
> Performance Products does not list one for the 99 SD's w/ the PSD and only
> lists their vendor as: "FUMOTO".
>
> Is anyone familiar with that name? I'd like to contact them to see if they
> have one for the PSD pan.
>
> Or perhaps another source??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bill Suarez
>
> 99 F250SD SC PSD Lariat
>
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 18:22:48 -0800
From: Gene Ball
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires

Mike, I had a set of these rims
American Racing - Atlas wheels
There is no clear coat!
and they stain very easy
NOT FUN POLISHING THEM!
But they are good looking!
They make a chrome one too?
Iam not sure if American Racing makes the chrome one?
Gene
Strukel, Mike wrote:

> The 295s are about an inch taller and slightly narrower than a 33x12.50
> (which is really a 32" tire). I think a 35" tire would be about perfect,
> but there is really not much to choose from as far as tires and rims.
> Most 35s only come in a 16.5" wheels (or 15" not an option). To my
> knowledge, there is only 1 wheel offered so far for the SD in a 16.5" rim.
> There are only a couple of options in tires for a 16" wheel too. BFG - 285
> and 295. SuperSwamper SSR Radial is releasing 35x12.50x16s and
> 33x12.50x16, but they are not available yet, are lousy in the snow/ice,
> and do not wear well. In another year or so, there will be plenty of
> option, but not much too chosose from now.
>
> Personally, I have ordered the 2" Superlift and am going to go with
> American Racing - Atlas wheels (16x8) with BFG All Terrains in 295/75R16s.
>
> Mike Strukel
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Keith Veren [SMTP:Spectrum-EHS worldnet.att.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 1999 11:42 AM
> > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: FTE 97up - F-350 New Tires
> >
> >
> > George, what is the height of your new tires? I installed the Tuff
> > Country
> > 3.5" lift on the front of my '99 F-350 SuperDuty / 4X4 / V-10 / SuperCab /
> > SRW / Longbed to make it sit level and now I am looking for taller tires
> > to
> > fill the bigger wheel well space.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Make sure your new tires can also handle the load.
> > >
> > >I just put 16x8 Weld "Super Single II" wheels and BFG 295-75R16 tires on
> > my
> > >new F-350 4x4. Looks much better than stock.
> > >
> > >George
> > >
> > >At 03/23/99 09:24 PM, you wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Whats the minimum load rating I should be
> > >>looking for, for wheels for my 99 F250 SD?
> > >>
> > >>Thanks
> > >>Vaughn
> > >
> > >
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 19:30:30 -0500
From: Paul Womble
Subject: FTE 97up - Aftermarket Stereo install kit

Has anyone with a 1999 F-150 installed an aftermarket stereo? The Metra
install kit I bought (labeled for 1998 but shop told me it would work)
does not quite fit. The dash panel wont fit with the new radio in
place.

Can anyone tell me what kit you used?

Thanks
Paul
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 19:47:16 EST
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