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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
Re: FTE 97up - Mud flaps or mud deflectors
Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
FTE 97up - Customer service number
Re: FTE 97up - Customer service number
FTE 97up - update Transmission cooler leak.
Re: FTE 97up - update Transmission cooler leak.
FTE 97up - Re: Rear mudflaps on SD
FTE 97up - Re: Mudflap part #
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Mudflap part #
FTE 97up - Wheel load rating
FTE 97up - ADMIN: Spamming the lists
FTE 97up - ADMIN: Updated charter and FAQ
FTE 97up - Speedometer Re-calibration

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 07:53:49 -0600
From: Landen Stoker
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results

Hi Keith,
I did shop around alot. I investigated all the major brands for about 4
months. I called all the service techs at the various manufacturers and gathered
alot of valuable information. The reason I went with Gibson was that I could not
justify spending so much extra on a Borla system. I do believe Borla is better
though, I really like the high grade stainless steel that they use. It also
looks nice. The Gibson stainless setup is lower grade and not polished but it is
still better than aluminized. I was really surprised when I found out that there
u-bolts were not even aluminized, kinda odd. I investigated Flowmaster seriously
also and in my opinion the Gibson is better than Flowmaster by a little, but not
as good as Borla.

Landen

Keith Veren wrote:

> I installed the borla Stainless Steel Exhaust on my '98 Expedition and was
> so happy with it I installed the dual-pipe (rear-exit) cat-back system on my
> '99 F-350 SuperDuty / SuperCab / XLT / 4X4 / V-10 / SRW / LongBed. I had
> looked into Gibson, but did not do a comparison between that and Borla,
> because I was happy with the Borla on my '98 expedition.) On all Borla
> systems, the hardware is stainless steel and comes with a million mile
> warrantee. However, I do wish I had comparison shopped, just to make sure I
> did not miss something. Did you investigate different brands or just decide
> to go with the Gibson based on ads or recommendations from friends? If you
> did comparison shop, could you list the factors that sold you on Gibson?
> Thanks!
>
> Keith

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 09:02:29 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Mud flaps or mud deflectors

Ford Parts Department tells me that there is a difference between 2x4
and 4x4 splash guards, so check with your "parts guy" to be sure.

I ordered the 4x4's for $20 a set ($40 front and rear). But I'm also having
them all installed at the dealership for an extra $10 ($50 total); safer driving

home on country roads. Can't tell you how well they fit or look since my new
truck won't be here until next week (Ford has pushed out all delivery dates).
However, since the holes are pre punched in the sheet metal at the factory, it
should be an exact fit.

And they should help reduce the amount of dirt kicked-up on the steps.

Charles.

Neil Plocek wrote:

> I installed the mud flaps on my F250 SD CC Lariat. They fit very well, look
> good, and were very simple to install. The part #'s are F81Z16A550AA for
> the front and F81Z16A550BA for the rear
>
> Has anyone installed the Ford mud flaps/deflectors on a 1999
> F-250 SD Lariat with the factory installed running boards??
> Do they fit ok?? Is there a Ford rear flap available?? Is
> there more than one size?? Anyone have the part numbers?
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 10:38:16 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results

I paid about $650.00, (including tax, shipping and hardware) for my Borla
Cat-Back system on the Expedition and $665.00 , (including tax, shipping and
hardware) for the Dual Pipe Cat-Back system for the '99 F-350 V-10.
Installation of each system was about $110.00 at my dealer. How much was
the Gibson System(s)?


Keith




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From: Landen Stoker
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 8:55 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results


>Hi Keith,
> I did shop around alot. I investigated all the major brands for about 4
>months. I called all the service techs at the various manufacturers and
gathered
>alot of valuable information. The reason I went with Gibson was that I
could not
>justify spending so much extra on a Borla system. I do believe Borla is
better
>though, I really like the high grade stainless steel that they use. It also
>looks nice. The Gibson stainless setup is lower grade and not polished but
it is
>still better than aluminized. I was really surprised when I found out that
there
>u-bolts were not even aluminized, kinda odd. I investigated Flowmaster
seriously
>also and in my opinion the Gibson is better than Flowmaster by a little,
but not
>as good as Borla.
>
>Landen
>
>Keith Veren wrote:
>
>> I installed the borla Stainless Steel Exhaust on my '98 Expedition and
was
>> so happy with it I installed the dual-pipe (rear-exit) cat-back system on
my
>> '99 F-350 SuperDuty / SuperCab / XLT / 4X4 / V-10 / SRW / LongBed. I had
>> looked into Gibson, but did not do a comparison between that and Borla,
>> because I was happy with the Borla on my '98 expedition.) On all Borla
>> systems, the hardware is stainless steel and comes with a million mile
>> warrantee. However, I do wish I had comparison shopped, just to make
sure I
>> did not miss something. Did you investigate different brands or just
decide
>> to go with the Gibson based on ads or recommendations from friends? If
you
>> did comparison shop, could you list the factors that sold you on Gibson?
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Keith
>
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:30:30 -0500
From: "Jody Villa"
Subject: FTE 97up - Customer service number

Hi all, my 99.5 250SD Lariat CC SWB PSD was built the week of February 22nd
and was suppose to be delivered to the dealer the week of March 11th.

Now I know that there is a tie up in delivery but the dealer has just told
me that he has no idea where it is. Is it possible that he can't trace where
the truck is at any moment? Anyway, I'm looking for the customer care number
or what ever number you folks are using to get the latest info on your truck
after it's been made.

Thanks

Jody

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 16:38:35 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Customer service number

1-800-392-3673 then after you connect, push 3 (Ford), then wait for next voice
about "recording your call" and push 3 again; next, enter your home phone
number plus area code.

Whoever answers should be able to gave you the actual "produced date", the
date it was built. And maybe even the box car number it was shipped on,
something like "TTGX139...."; they won't know what this is but if they have it
we may be able to track it on the railroad.

Good luck,

Charles.

Jody Villa wrote:

> Hi all, my 99.5 250SD Lariat CC SWB PSD was built the week of February 22nd
> and was suppose to be delivered to the dealer the week of March 11th.
>
> Now I know that there is a tie up in delivery but the dealer has just told
> me that he has no idea where it is. Is it possible that he can't trace where
> the truck is at any moment? Anyway, I'm looking for the customer care number
> or what ever number you folks are using to get the latest info on your truck
> after it's been made.
>
> Thanks
>
> Jody
>
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 18:33:49 -0500
From: Bill
Subject: FTE 97up - update Transmission cooler leak.

Good news , trans cooler came in today, they have a guy
working late to install it. I can pick it up first thing in
the morning. Then its off for a long drive to check
everthing out. Thanks to all those that shared there cooler
leak info with me. Bill
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 17:50:45 -0800
From: Gene Ball
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - update Transmission cooler leak.

Good luck Bill, hopefuly it will be smooth driving the rest of the way!

Bill wrote:

> Good news , trans cooler came in today, they have a guy
> working late to install it. I can pick it up first thing in
> the morning. Then its off for a long drive to check
> everthing out. Thanks to all those that shared there cooler
> leak info with me. Bill
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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 19:30:59 -0500
From: Gary & Nancy Brinck
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Rear mudflaps on SD

> Is there a Ford rear flap available??
>

I have the rear mudflap installed and it looks fine. It is a rigid vinyl
deflector, not a "flap". Can't say they are especially elegant though -
same gray vinyl as the cab steps and no color in the Ford logo, so it is
essentially invisible.

Part # is FB1Z-16A550-HA and lists for $21.42 at my local dealer.
- --
Gary Brinck...
in Florida's Ocala National Forest


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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 19:34:14 -0500
From: Gary & Nancy Brinck
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Mudflap part #

> The part #'s are F81Z16A550AA for
> the front and F81Z16A550BA for the rear
>
I notice your rear mud flap has a different suffix on the part number than
mine - BA instead of HA. Wonder if there are two different styles?

- --
Gary Brinck...
in Florida's Ocala National Forest


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Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 16:52:42 -0800
From: "Neil Plocek"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Mudflap part #

maybe the difference in the part# has something to do with the color? Mine
are black and have no Ford logo.

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 21:24:14 4
From: "Vaughn (VDB)"
Subject: FTE 97up - Wheel load rating

Whats the minimum load rating I should be
looking for, for wheels for my 99 F250 SD?

Thanks
Vaughn
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 00:04:49 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Spamming the lists

Just wanted everyone to know that before they buy anything
from Superior Carburators that this company thinks its ok
to spam our mailing lists. As usual, our list filters
caught the spam. I've cc'd the spammer if anyone else
wants to discuss this with the spammer.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 00:51:15 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Updated charter and FAQ

Hi gang,

The FAQ and charter have been updated to duplicate information
found elsewhere on the site (i.e., the link at the bottom of
the charter). This update was done in order to clarify the
position of Ford Truck Enthusiasts concerning non-Ford power
plants in Ford trucks.

During the Summer/Fall of 1998, several people on the "core"
list made a decision concerning a club charter which would
exclude Ford family trucks which were powered by non-Ford
family engines (engines not made by Ford but installed by
Ford are acceptable, see the charter for details). Ford Truck
Enthusiasts, although a separate entity from the club (yet
to be incorporated as a non-profit), keeps itself "in sync"
with this tenant of the club.

For those that don't know, the core list is a group of
volunteers who act as advisors to myself/FTE and it also
facilitates communication for the formation of a national Ford
truck club. The core is open to anyone willing to volunteer
their time to discuss the direction of FTE - its not there
to air your dirty laundry but complaints are acceptable.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

PS- Give a round of applause to Keith Srb (herbie ford-trucks.com)
for being the admin of the 97+, small chassis and performance
lists. He's sort of the silent unsung hero behind the scenes
with those lists.

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 23:56:41 -0800
From: Jon Lam
Subject: FTE 97up - Speedometer Re-calibration

Hi,
I have recently just purchased a 1997 F-150, V6, 5sp, S/C, 2wd,
3.55lsd. The other
day I noticed that on the door was a sticker for a speedometer
re-calibration at approx.
20,000 km. I am just curious why the speedometer was re-calibrated.
The truck came with a set of LT215/75R/16 tires. On the other sticker
that is also on the door, it states that the tires should be
215/70R/16. Would this be
the reason for the speedometer re-calibration? Does this change of tire....

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