97up-list-digest Monday, March 22 1999 Volume 02 : Number 069



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - ADMIN: Web site updates
FTE 97up - Excursion
FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results
FTE 97up - Lost smile
Re: FTE 97up - Excursion
Re: FTE 97up - 99 SD ABS light
FTE 97up - Bob Mosso
Re: FTE 97up - 400 HP V-10
Re: FTE 97up - Bob Mosso

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 14:16:02 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Web site updates

The following updates have been made to the Ford Truck Enthusiasts
web site.

1. New pictures in the 1915-1947, 1948-1952, 1961-1966 and 1997+
pictorial sections (note, we're still behind with the pictorials
and have about 20+ more trucks to add).

2. Events guide updated.

3. New links added to links page (we still have another 10 to add).

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Tue, 23 Mar 1999 03:37:52 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - Excursion

got a flyer from Ford today on the Excursion. It doesn't have much info
(its just 3 pages, mostly pictures) but it does mention:

- -optional heated front seats on Limited
- -first row captains chairs std. on Limited optional on XLT
- -second row seats recline
- -third row seat on rollers for easy removal


Engine date (projections) {my bet is that the SD will have the same specs}
5.4L V-8 260HP 4500 torque 345 2300
6.8L V-10 300 4250 torque 430 3250
Power Stroke 235HP 2700 torque 500 1600

Maximum Trailer tow weights
GCWR 4x2 4x4
5.4L
3.73 13,000 6200 N/A
4.10LS 14,500 N/A 7,300
6.8L
3.73 17,000 10,000 9,700
4.30LS 18,000 10,000 10,000

Power Stroke
3.73 (or 3.73LS) 18,000 10,000 10,000


Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.
Union, IA 50258

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 17:39:02 -0600
From: Landen Stoker
Subject: FTE 97up - Gibson Exhaust Results

Well after lurking around and picking up as much information as possible, I
decided to install a stainless Gibson dual exhaust system on my 98 F150
Sport V6. It has been installed now for about a month, so I thought I would
post to the list my results. I do not have access to a drag strip or dyno
so, all I can give is my opinions. I can't say if it increased horsepower or
not but, I did notice a nice difference in the feel of shifting. It just
shifts smoother than it used to. I filled the tank up previous to the
install and after filling it up again, I can say that it did increase MPG. I
saw and continue to see about an increase of 2 - 2.5 MPG. In my opinion that
is pretty good. I finally decided it was time to put a K&N Filter in, it
seems like they make a nice combination of upgrades. My only dislike about
the Gibson , is that the u-bolts are not stainless or even plated, they
rusted solid in about a week. So if you feel the way I do about that, you
need to take into consideration the extra cost of putting stainless,
galvanized, or plated u-bolts on, and add that to the price of the system.
For those of you that are interested in the sound, it is not loud, but it
does change the sound from stock to a mellower tone. Under load or
acceleration you hear a nice rumble in the cab. I am sure it would sound
really nice if you put it on a V8. Sorry for rambling on. I hope this is
useful to someone.

Landen Stoker
KC5QDZ TCAC.NET

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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 17:17:57 -0500
From: Bill
Subject: FTE 97up - Lost smile

Someone said let us know when your smile comes back after I
posted I only got to drive my new F-250 72 miles and the
transcooler dumped all my transmission fluid an will be 4 to
5 days before I get it back again, waiting on parts. I
didn't loose my smile, but was disappointed. I spent over
30 years working in a Ford Motor assembly plant. I fully
understand its impossible for every unit going out the
factory door to be 100%. However I also understand when a
given model is in demand and numbers out the factory door
are important the likelihood things gone wrong will
increase. Many times the reason for this has nothing to do
with the person on the line assembling the unit. Outside
parts suppliers are also run to the limit trying to make
enough parts to supply the plant. READ THE FOLLOWING: many
times vendor parts are not perfect, (mounting holes off
location, bent parts in a rack) in an effort to keep the
numbers flowing out the factory door, parts are reworked,
bent parts repaired on the factory floor. God and I both
know, if its the last part in a box and its bend, you
install it, "YOU DO NOT STOP THE LINE" Sorry Big 3 if I
stepped on any toes in the front office, but if you don't
beleive this, you spend to much time in your office and not
enough time on the factory floor. When the Big 3 start
requiring the boys in the front office come from the factory
floor and work there way to the top and not out the college
door and into the office. Then maybe things will change.
Retired 1998 Factory Rat.
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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 19:43:32 -0800
From: George Passidakis
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Excursion

Not sure if this was posted yet.

Deatiled Excursion info can be found at:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.truckworld.com/Sport-Utility/2000-excursion/excursion.html

George

At 03/23/99 03:37 AM, you wrote:
>got a flyer from Ford today on the Excursion. It doesn't have much info
>(its just 3 pages, mostly pictures) but it does mention:
>
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 00:57:24 -0500
From: zman
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 SD ABS light

does the truck feel/look like it is loosing power? electrical power that is.
Go to a parking with speed bumps or some place with potholes and take
somebody with you who can look at the guages. Maybe even have the fan and
stereo on. As you go over the bumps does the radio and fan cut out along
with the motor? If so my guess is you have a loose electrical connection
somewhere. If the radio and fan don't cut out I still think you have a
electrical problem. If you can't find it make one of the mechanics go for a
ride with you.


good luck
joe

Dave Sturtze wrote:

> Just got my 99 SD SC LB 4x4 V10 back from the service dept after
> developing a problem with what I think is the computer. At any speed
> when I hit a bump or small pot hole the ABS light goes on the
> speedometer and tach drop to almost zero for about 3-4 sec then the
> torque converter slips the trans downshifts ( loads of fun at 70+ mph).
> Well dealer says they can't duplicate, funny because it happened to me
> driving out of the lot when I drove over their speed bump, and returned
> the truck after 2 days with only changing oil and air filter. So I get
> home reset the alarm from valet mode only to find my remote doesn't work
> ( Ford factory alarm and remote door lock ) I check the alarm and, isn't
> it suposed to have an antenea? So now I can't secure my truck and have
> to either keep it on valet or use the starter over-ride switch. Anyhow
> my question is , does anyone out there have any idea what might be
> causing the ABS light/speedo problem or where the antenea is supposed to
> go on the alarm module ( if I can even find the antenea wire)?
> Thanks
> Dave
>
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 00:00:26 -0600
From: "Gene Woelfel"
Subject: FTE 97up - Bob Mosso

I think that someone has misrepresented the delivery time of Super Duties to
you. My order was placed (F-250, SD, CC, PS), July 14,1998 and a build
order was finally given the 3rd week of Jan. 99, I finally took delivery
3/4/99.
I really like everything about it except manual trailer tow mirrors, I
thought they telescoped in or out " wrong". Last week I added a skirted 9"
drop bumper and a grill guard made by Kasper Ranch Gear out of Shiner Texas.
Now no more worries about deer crossing the highway in front of me or
tail-gaters. I looked at 3 or 4 other manufacturers equipment but for
quality, materials and workmanship their's was tops. I think their number
is 800-337-0610 if you have such needs. Good luck and patience.

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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 01:04:21 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 400 HP V-10

In a message dated 99-03-20 22:25:26 EST, you write:


also i am pretty sure that Vortech has a S trim Kit in development if not
already out.

RS

Date:99-03-20 22:25:26 EST
From:Klein prudhoe-bay.dowell.slb.com (Perry Klein)
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From paxton automotive

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.paxtonautomotive.com

Camarillo, CA-With the newly-styled and reengineered Ford F-Series trucks,
the F-350 V10 is one of the most sought after vehicles on the market. Now,
Paxton Automotive is pleased to introduce the Novi 2000 Ford F-350 V10 kit.
Like other Paxton Automotive supercharger kits, this heat-treated
helical-cut gear driven Novi 2000 kit comes with a billet aluminum mounting
bracket, hardware and everything necessary for a professionally looking
installation.
Originally developed to assist with heavy-towing, horsepower increases from
275 to an amazing 400, a 60%
increase! Installation time is approximately six hours, following Paxton
Automotive's detailed installation manual
and like all of Paxton Automotive's products, this application is 50-state
legal.

No price is mentioned but withthe novi I'm sure its high. I guess I'll
start asking my wife if I can waste our money.

pk


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Date: Sun, 21 Mar 1999 22:49:58 -0800
From: JJ Thomas
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Bob Mosso

Holy Ouch!!!

Thanks for the head up on the trailer tow mirrors.

- -Julian

At 00:00 03/22/99 -0600, you wrote:
>I think that someone has misrepresented the delivery time of Super Duties to
>you. My order was placed (F-250, SD, CC, PS), July 14,1998 and a build
>order was finally given the 3rd week of Jan. 99, I finally took delivery
>3/4/99.
>I really like everything about it except manual trailer tow mirrors, I
>thought they telescoped in or out " wrong". Last week I added a skirted 9"
>drop bumper and a grill guard made by Kasper Ranch Gear out of Shiner Texas.
>Now no more worries about deer crossing the highway in front of me or
>tail-gaters. I looked at 3 or 4 other manufacturers equipment but for
>quality, materials and workmanship their's was tops. I think their number
>is 800-337-0610 if you have such needs. Good luck and patience.....


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