FTE 97up - Two Dealers: A story

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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Two Dealers: A story
FTE 97up - Carefree Bedliners / Pace Edwards
FTE 97up - Dash panel removal.
Re: FTE 97up - Carefree Bedliners / Pace Edwards
Re: FTE 97up - Two Dealers: A story
FTE 97up - Delivery of '99 Crewcabs
Re: FTE 97up - Delivery of '99 Crewcabs
Re: FTE 97up - Delivery of '99 Crewcabs
Re: FTE 97up - Delivery of '99 Crewcabs
Re: FTE 97up - Delivery of '99 Crewcabs
Re: FTE 97up - Delivery of '99 Crewcabs
Re: FTE 97up - Airlifts/foils ??
RE: FTE 97up - Dash panel removal.
Re: FTE 97up - Dash panel removal.
Re: FTE 97up - Mercon V Transmission Fluid
Re: FTE 97up - Two Dealers: A story
FTE 97up - Bed liners
FTE 97up - The rest of the story!
Re: FTE 97up - Dash panel removal.
FTE 97up - Mercon V Transmission Fluid
Re: FTE 97up - Mercon V Transmission Fluid
Re: FTE 97up - Mercon V Transmission Fluid

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 08:38:07 -0500
From: "Joel Sturm"
Subject: FTE 97up - Two Dealers: A story

'97 4.2 Auto 2WD

Problem: Intermittent Emergency Brake lamp and play in the steering which
feels as if the wheel is loose on its splines.

Solution 1: Take it to a dealer heavily into advertising and with a large
truck service facility.

Outcome 1: Lamp defect not fixed
Service technician reports that "play in my truck is
not as bad as play in others he
tried. Reports it's normal.

Solution 2: Return to have lamp defect fixed.
Second try--still not fixed.

Solution 2: Take it to a nearby, smaller, Lincoln-Mercury dealer.
Solution: Switch ordered in installed--seems fine
Steering shaft ordered and
installed-improvement noted instantly.

Analysis: Large dealer lied about about replacing switch. Lied about
steering flaw.

Question: Why would a dealer not be willing to take on warranty repairs?
What's in it for the dealer?
Is this just a problem with the service manager?
Would Ford of Canada like to hear about this or would I
just be wasting my time?

Joel Sturm

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 08:44:39 -0600
From: ywozniak

kiwi.dep.anl.gov (Todd Wozniak)
Subject: FTE 97up - Carefree Bedliners / Pace Edwards

Has anyone used or heard of a bed liner called a Carefree liner? It is a
spray in liner that is cold sprayed in at high pressure versus the hot
application of a Rhino liner. The result is a very uniform application.
It has small particles in the liner versus some of the large particles I've
seen on some other liners. It has a rock hard finish. The price is around
$420.

Also, I'm thinking of a Pace Edwards roll top bed cover. The idea is
really a good one: a retractable bed cover. Has anyone used these? My
biggest fear is leaks from rain or snow.

Truck arrives in three weeks!!! SD 250 CC SB 4x4 V10 Lariet
I placed the order on 11/1/98

Thanks for the help

Todd W.
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 07:11:33 -0800
From: "Colin Walker"
Subject: FTE 97up - Dash panel removal.

Hello all. I have been lurking on the list for some time and now I would
like to consult the collective list wisdom.

I have a 99 F250 SD XLT 4X4 V10 with manual transfer case and 5 speed. There
is a small rectangular dash panel to the right of the steering column and to
the left of the vent controls. I suspect it is where the shift on the fly
controls would go if I had ordered that option. Is it possible to remove
this panel easily? I would like to mount a switch block in that space. How
much space is behind that panel? Depth? How do I remove the panel without
damaging the dash?

Any instructions would be great!
Thanks for your time.

Colin Walker.
Portland Oregon.

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:23:14 GMT
From: alannorthstar

mindspring.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Carefree Bedliners / Pace Edwards

On Fri, 19 Mar 1999 08:44:39 -0600, you wrote:

:Has anyone used or heard of a bed liner called a Carefree liner? It is =
a
:spray in liner that is cold sprayed in at high pressure versus the hot
:application of a Rhino liner. The result is a very uniform application.
:It has small particles in the liner versus some of the large particles =
I've
:seen on some other liners. It has a rock hard finish. The price is =
around
:$420.
:
:Also, I'm thinking of a Pace Edwards roll top bed cover. The idea is
:really a good one: a retractable bed cover. Has anyone used these? My
:biggest fear is leaks from rain or snow.
:
:Truck arrives in three weeks!!! SD 250 CC SB 4x4 V10 Lariet
:I placed the order on 11/1/98
:
:Thanks for the help
:
:Todd W.
:Chicago
:
I have a Pace-Edwards roll-top cover, and, while I like it for
it's convenience (no hard cover to remove when you want to carry
tall objects) there are two things you should be aware of:
1. I can freeze in the winter if it gets snow/water/ice on/in
the top and/or the mechanism.
2. It is NOT water tight, at all. (I use a 'touchless' car wash
which uses high-pressure water jets to wash the car, and this
always results in water in the bed.) I *think* ordinary rain or
snow is likely to result in some water in the bed, too.

Having said that, neither of those has been a problem for me,
yet, because I don't keep anything in the bed -- just use it for
occasional hauling. And I like the roll-top feature!

Later,
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 11:22:51 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Two Dealers: A story

Joel Sturm wrote:
>
> '97 4.2 Auto 2WD
>
> Problem: Intermittent Emergency Brake lamp and play in the steering which
> feels as if the wheel is loose on its splines.
>
> Solution 1: Take it to a dealer heavily into advertising and with a large
> truck service facility.
>
> Outcome 1: Lamp defect not fixed
> Service technician reports that "play in my truck is
> not as bad as play in others he
> tried. Reports it's normal.
>
> Solution 2: Return to have lamp defect fixed.
> Second try--still not fixed.
>
> Solution 2: Take it to a nearby, smaller, Lincoln-Mercury dealer.
> Solution: Switch ordered in installed--seems fine
> Steering shaft ordered and
> installed-improvement noted instantly.
>
> Analysis: Large dealer lied about about replacing switch. Lied about
> steering flaw.
>
> Question: Why would a dealer not be willing to take on warranty repairs?
> What's in it for the dealer?
> Is this just a problem with the service manager?
> Would Ford of Canada like to hear about this or would I
> just be wasting my time?
>
> Joel Sturm
>

Joel,

Your Dealer is only as good as the most ignorant
technician who works on your truck. It seems like the guy
didn't know what he was doing or he lacked the experience to
make a proper diagnosis. If you feel inclined to help the
offending Dealer, talk to the Service Manager and show him
both bills.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 10:25:46 -0800
From: Bob Mosso
Subject: FTE 97up - Delivery of '99 Crewcabs

I ordered a F250 V10 crew cab sb 2wd Lariat back in January and Ford
still isn't building my truck. On 1/18 Ford confirmed the order as
"clean unscheduled" or "waiting selection by computer", the status has
never changed. I'm getting very impatient, to the point of looking on
the local (go ahead curse me) Chevy lot.

Does anyone know why '99 crew cabs are hard to find on the lots? or not
being built? Is there a part shortage, quality problems? The dealer and
Ford customer service just give me "clean unscheduled". Is there any way
to find out when Ford will build crew cabs?

Thanks in advance,
Bob (truckless) Mosso
(the local Chevy dealer has 4 454 crew cabs on the lot, which color do I
want?)
mosso

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:31:09 EST
From: John941

aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Delivery of '99 Crewcabs

There is a dually powerstroke(1999 1/2) at Galloway Ford in Fort Myers, FL
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 12:21:13 -0800
From: George Passidakis
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Delivery of '99 Crewcabs

Bob,

I ordered my Crew Cab F-350 4x4 PSD SRW SB on November 6th and it arrived
at the dealer on March 5th.

It was "scheduled" on January 21st.

The 4 month wait was tough to get through but the truck is awesome!

Crew Cabs and Lariats are taking longest. Check out
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wheels.com/fr_news.htm You can see lead times and what models
and features are on restriction.

George

At 03/19/99 10:25 AM, you wrote:
>I ordered a F250 V10 crew cab sb 2wd Lariat back in January and Ford
>still isn't building my truck. On 1/18 Ford confirmed the order as
>"clean unscheduled" or "waiting selection by computer", the status has
>never changed. I'm getting very impatient, to the point of looking on
>the local (go ahead curse me) Chevy lot.
>
>Does anyone know why '99 crew cabs are hard to find on the lots? or not
>being built? Is there a part shortage, quality problems? The dealer and
>Ford customer service just give me "clean unscheduled". Is there any way
>to find out when Ford will build crew cabs?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Bob (truckless) Mosso
>(the local Chevy dealer has 4 454 crew cabs on the lot, which color do I
>want?)
>mosso

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:21:46 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Delivery of '99 Crewcabs

Bob,

I don't think it's the crew-cab option. In order of hard-to-get, I would say
that it's first the Lariat package, then the V10, and maybe the short box.
Also, your wait is nothing compared to others - including myself, on this
list. How long did the dealer tell you the wait would be?

So much depends on dealer allocations, available commodities (V10 engines),
fleet orders - which get built ahead of everyone else. (PSD diesels speed-up
orders too.)

Once your truck is scheduled a build week, a VIN number is assigned to it.
However, this isn't a guarantee your truck will actually get built that week.
But eventually it will be built. But then comes transporting it from the factory

to the dealership. Usually two weeks baring snow storms and other things.
(Right now, according to Ford's 800 number, there's a delay in deliveries.)

Now, if this all goes well for you, there is also the possibility that the
dealer
will sell your truck to someone else for more money as soon as it comes in.
I know because it happened to me. Four and one half months of waiting only
to have it sold to another on the day it was delivered to the dealership.

Charles.

Bob Mosso wrote:

> I ordered a F250 V10 crew cab sb 2wd Lariat back in January and Ford
> still isn't building my truck. On 1/18 Ford confirmed the order as
> "clean unscheduled" or "waiting selection by computer", the status has
> never changed. I'm getting very impatient, to the point of looking on
> the local (go ahead curse me) Chevy lot.
>
> Does anyone know why '99 crew cabs are hard to find on the lots? or not
> being built? Is there a part shortage, quality problems? The dealer and
> Ford customer service just give me "clean unscheduled". Is there any way
> to find out when Ford will build crew cabs?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bob (truckless) Mosso
> (the local Chevy dealer has 4 454 crew cabs on the lot, which color do I
> want?)
> mosso

ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, March 19, 1999 12:23 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Delivery of '99 Crewcabs

>I ordered a F250 V10 crew cab sb 2wd Lariat back in January and Ford
>still isn't building my truck. On 1/18 Ford confirmed the order as
>"clean unscheduled" or "waiting selection by computer", the status has
>never changed. I'm getting very impatient, to the point of looking on
>the local (go ahead curse me) Chevy lot.
>
>Does anyone know why '99 crew cabs are hard to find on the lots? or not
>being built? Is there a part shortage, quality problems? The dealer and
>Ford customer service just give me "clean unscheduled". Is there any way
>to find out when Ford will build crew cabs?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Bob (truckless) Mosso
>(the local Chevy dealer has 4 454 crew cabs on the lot, which color do I
>want?)
>mosso

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 17:16:17 -0600
From: "Greg Gilmore"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Delivery of '99 Crewcabs

Another place to check is http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://forddirect.com
Depending on where you live, they can check with multiple dealers

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From: John941

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To: 97up-list

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Date: Friday, March 19, 1999 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Delivery of '99 Crewcabs

>There is a dually powerstroke(1999 1/2) at Galloway Ford in Fort Myers, FL
>John
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 16:35:02 EST
From: LOUISETUL

aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Airlifts/foils ??

We have an air foil that we did use with our '89 F250. Husband would really
tape down the straps. If you didn't, they would make so much noise that we
couldn't hear ourselves. And he would complain about the noise. He is hard
of hearing to boot. My father had given it to us. He had used it on his '85
F250. Never heard my father said anything good about it. If it helped with
the mileage on his diesel, he didn't say. The help that it gave us pulling
our fifth wheel trailer was not that much. And my husband really gets down to
figuring out mileage when we are pulling the 5er. It is such a help, that it
now sits out in the shed collecting dust. Husband has not put it on one time
with the '97 F250 we have now. I don't see them as much as I did when they
first came out. But I guess some people do swear by them.

Louise
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:54:36 -0600
From: "David Moore"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Dash panel removal.

You are correct that the spot is for the push-button 4x4 shift-on-the-fly.
When I replace my radio I check it and the spot, despite appearing to a
"punch out" is in fact molded into the dash. To remove the entire dash just
simply grab one end (like where the glove box is) using a screw driver to
pry it off at first then just pull real hard and the entire dash will come
off in one part (along with associated switches and radio).

David

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Sent: Friday, March 19, 1999 9:12 AM
To: 97up-list-digest

ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Dash panel removal.

Hello all. I have been lurking on the list for some time and now I would
like to consult the collective list wisdom.

I have a 99 F250 SD XLT 4X4 V10 with manual transfer case and 5 speed. There
is a small rectangular dash panel to the right of the steering column and to
the left of the vent controls. I suspect it is where the shift on the fly
controls would go if I had ordered that option. Is it possible to remove
this panel easily? I would like to mount a switch block in that space. How
much space is behind that panel? Depth? How do I remove the panel without
damaging the dash?

Any instructions would be great!
Thanks for your time.

Colin Walker.
Portland Oregon.

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 16:14:43 -0600 (CST)
From: "Douglas R. Floyd"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Dash panel removal.

>
> You are correct that the spot is for the push-button 4x4 shift-on-the-fly.
> When I replace my radio I check it and the spot, despite appearing to a
> "punch out" is in fact molded into the dash. To remove the entire dash just
> simply grab one end (like where the glove box is) using a screw driver to
> pry it off at first then just pull real hard and the entire dash will come
> off in one part (along with associated switches and radio).
>
> David

It doesn't take the radio with it, but it does have a goodly amount of
wires. I would probably pop a battery cable off, wait 60 seconds before
doing so, for fear of popping the airbag, because the deploy switch is
in that panel assembly.

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:53:55 -0800
From: Ken Peterson
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Mercon V Transmission Fluid

>You don't know me but thanks anyway for the vote of confidence on the Red Line
>Synthetic oil issue.....BTW what transmission oil did you use (my dealer says
>NO while under warranty !!??) and how do you like the self-leveling rear
>suspen ( I have it too) and any problems with it? Thanks.

I used Red Line synthetic ATF (the regular stuff, not the high-temp racing,
since my truck works over a wide variety of conditions).

The self-leveling rear suspension is marvelous, keeping headlights properly
aimed no matter what the load and allowing the truck to be level, not
ass-up in back, when empty. There are fewer leaves in the rear springs, the
load being divided between those leaves and the air pistons. When lightly
loaded, the trucks rides very nice. When I dropped a camper on the back,
they pumped right up to stiffen the spring rate and level the chassis. Love
it! And you get stabilizer bars that prevent rear-axle windup under
acceleration--less hop and shudder over rough surfaces.

The downside is a matter of engineering stupidity: The bolts holding the
brackets for the torque-stabilizer arms (needed because of the few leaves
in the springs) keep coming loose. The holes are generous for the bolt
diameter. I have tightened them, the dealer has tightened them (the ^&$#!
blind nuts are hell to hold onto while tightening). Then I go on some rough
road or two, and they're loose when I get back. Dealer says Ford doesn't
have a solution, won't allow the drilling of a couple new holes in the
frame for additional bolts, has no fix, yadda yadda. Well, thanks a lot!
Now I note that the feature seems to be gone from all '99+ models, am I
right?

I like the new engines in the 99s, but I think I like my suspension and
E4OD tranny better.

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Ken Peterson, Portland, OR
1998 F-250LD Lariat, extended cab, short bed, 4X2, 5.4l, class-3 tow options
LT245X16/steel rims, 4W disks + ABS, load-leveling rear suspension.
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:57:16 -0800
From: Ken Peterson
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Two Dealers: A story

>If you feel inclined to help the
>offending Dealer, talk to the Service Manager and show him
>both bills.

No, no! Should read: "If you feel inclined to help other customers of this
dealer who might get the same incompetent treatment . . ."

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Ken Peterson, Portland, OR
1998 F-250LD Lariat, extended cab, short bed, 4X2, 5.4l, class-3 tow options
LT245X16/steel rims, 4W disks + ABS, load-leveling rear suspension.
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 15:21:59 -0900
From: Perry Klein
Subject: FTE 97up - Bed liners

>its available with any texture from smooth to VERY rough. it does NOT get
>slick when wet.. it forms to the metal... it doesnt get brittle in cold
>weather, nor does it get soft when hot..

I'm sure this is an extreme example but they do chip in Fairbanks Alaska
right around January.
They are brittle but at those temps most everything is.

I've had both rhino and linex, the rhino for 4 years. The rhino was great
and the linex... so far is great. I did have one stain in the ( black )
rhino from bear blood though deer blood didn't seem to do anything to it.
I'm surprised that blood would stain it considering all the other stuff
that was spilled in the bed and left no mark oil, tranny fluid, ect.

pk

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 19:44:02 -0500
From: Bill
Subject: FTE 97up - The rest of the story!

Ordered 1999 Ford F-250 SD, SC, V10, 2WD first week of
october 1998, picked it up today 3/19/99. Decided to take
the long way home, 75 miles, well never made it, at the 72
mile mark I stopped at a friends house only to see
transmission fluid on the ground. Drove another mile to a
Ford dealer, they checked the dip stick and no fluid
showing, after sitting 3 1/2 hours in that dealership, I
was told a new transmission cooler had to be ordered and
would not be in till maybe monday or tuesday at the
earliest. This Dealer call the dealer I bought it from and
got them to pay for a rental car. Great you say, what a
junker it is, some small kind of GM product. Oh well I've
bought several new cars and trucks, this is the first and
worst start on a new one I've ever had.
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 21:07:43 -0500
From: "Bill Wood"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Dash panel removal.

That "panel" is part of the entire dash panel, not a seperate section.
The good news is that the entire panel is just snaped in place and easy to
remove. Once off, you will see marks on the back of that small section,
that you may take to be locator holes for switches. They are not centered,
so you must measure and drill from the front to properly space switches.
There is alot of room there behind that
spot for wiring. In fact , on my 350 SD there is a four wire harness down
and to the left of there, which goes thru the fire wall. (it is meant for
aux electrics such as snow plow control.) I used it for aux lighting>
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From: Colin Walker
To: 97up-list-digest

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Date: Friday, March 19, 1999 10:24 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Dash panel removal.

>Hello all. I have been lurking on the list for some time and now I would
>like to consult the collective list wisdom.
>
>I have a 99 F250 SD XLT 4X4 V10 with manual transfer case and 5 speed.
There
>is a small rectangular dash panel to the right of the steering column and
to
>the left of the vent controls. I suspect it is where the shift on the fly
>controls would go if I had ordered that option. Is it possible to remove
>this panel easily? I would like to mount a switch block in that space. How
>much space is behind that panel? Depth? How do I remove the panel without
>damaging the dash?
>
>Any instructions would be great!
>Thanks for your time.
>
>Colin Walker.
>Portland Oregon.
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 21:22:20 -0500
From: jclem
Subject: FTE 97up - Mercon V Transmission Fluid

I was trying to figure out how everybody got from Mercon V Tranny Fluid
to discussing motor oil. Anyway - for anybody who cares or doesn't, I
was asking if Mobil-1 Synthetic ATF was Mercon V compatible (not to be
confused with Mobil-1 Synthetic oil). My 98 F150 w/4R70W transmission
calls for Mercon V.

Although it was a bit slow in coming, I did get a e-mail response from
Mobil the other evening. Turns out that their Synthetic ATF is meets
Mercon specs (it says so on the bottle), but it does not meet Mercon V.
Looks like I'm stuck buying a dozen quarts or so for a change at the
dealer - hate paying parts counter ripoff prices if I can avoid it. Was
worth a try I suppose.

Jim

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 21:41:07 EST
From: RSnovi

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Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Mercon V Transmission Fluid

In a message dated 99-03-19 21:30:03 EST, you write:

There are other companies that make syn ATF, i have Redline on the way for my
F250SD. Amsoil is a little more readily avalible, both are a bit more pricey
than Mobil, but well worth it. I have had great luck in my race car with the
Redline Racing ATF, no burn smells, or tranny breakage with it....yet.

Ross S.
99 F250SD PSD/SC/4x4
9sec93cobra
"Worlds Quickest real 93 cobra"

Date:99-03-19 21:30:03 EST
From:jclem

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I was trying to figure out how everybody got from Mercon V Tranny Fluid
to discussing motor oil. Anyway - for anybody who cares or doesn't, I
was asking if Mobil-1 Synthetic ATF was Mercon V compatible (not to be
confused with Mobil-1 Synthetic oil). My 98 F150 w/4R70W transmission
calls for Mercon V.

Although it was a bit slow in coming, I did get a e-mail response from
Mobil the other evening. Turns out that their Synthetic ATF is meets
Mercon specs (it says so on the bottle), but it does not meet Mercon V.
Looks like I'm stuck buying a dozen quarts or so for a change at the
dealer - hate paying parts counter ripoff prices if I can avoid it. Was
worth a try I suppose.

Jim

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Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 22:18:28 -0800
From: Chuck Haugen
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Mercon V Transmission Fluid

Thanks for the reply.....I am going to talk to the dealer again because I
think he is being silly about the synthetic transmission oil....I too like the
rear suspension but keep about 80 lbs in the far rear when not towing; it
seems to smooth out the ride (I discovered this when I left my ball hitch on
one day and noticed the difference in the ride) I will check those bolts you
mentioned, since I never really noticed before.

Ken Peterson wrote:
>
> >You don't know me but thanks anyway for the vote of confidence on the Red Line
> >Synthetic oil issue.....BTW what transmission oil did you use (my dealer says
> >NO while under warranty !!??) and how do you like the self-leveling rear
> >suspen ( I have it too) and any problems with it? Thanks.
>
> I used Red Line synthetic ATF (the regular stuff, not the high-temp racing,
> since my truck works over a wide variety of conditions).
>
> The self-leveling rear suspension is marvelous, keeping headlights properly
> aimed no matter what the load and allowing the truck to be level, not
> ass-up in back, when empty. There are fewer leaves in the rear springs, the
> load being divided between those leaves and the air pistons. When lightly
> loaded, the trucks rides very nice. When I dropped a camper on the back,
> they pumped right up to stiffen the spring rate and level the chassis. Love
> it! And you get stabilizer bars that prevent rear-axle windup under
> acceleration--less hop and shudder over rough surfaces.
>
> The downside is a matter of engineering stupidity: The bolts holding the....

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