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In this issue:

FTE 97up - 99 s.d camper wiring
Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy
Re: FTE 97up - SD 5.4l gas mileage
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Ranger vs F150 vs SD 4x4
RE: FTE 97up - Cost of SD vs F150 - (was - SD 5.4l gas mileage)
Re: FTE 97up - Mileage of f250SD 4x4 CC PSD Manual -Reply
FTE 97up - Fuel Economy
Re: FTE 97up - Fuel Economy
Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy
FTE 97up - Annoying pedal vibration in 5.4L '99 Expedition! HELP!
FTE 97up - Excursion...crying towel out
Re: FTE 97up - Excursion...crying towel out
Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy
Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy
FTE 97up - The Great Fuel usage debate -- my $0.02
Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy
FTE 97up - Anyone using K&N air filter? Waht are the results?
FTE 97up - locking differential
FTE 97up - TSB's
Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy
Re: FTE 97up - Anyone using K&N air filter? Waht are the results?
FTE 97up - PSD Dual Alternator
Re: FTE 97up - Fuel Economy
Re: FTE 97up - TSB's
Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy
Re: FTE 97up - locking differential
Re: FTE 97up - F250 finally here..
FTE 97up - Re: 99 SD Camper Wiring
FTE 97up - Some good news on the Excursion?
RE: FTE 97up - Re: 99 SD Camper Wiring
Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy
RE: FTE 97up - Re: 99 SD Camper Wiring
RE: FTE 97up - PSD Dual Alternator
FTE 97up - new muffler
FTE 97up - Fuel economy with 4.30 Axle
FTE 97up - Re: SD camper wiring
Re: FTE 97up - new muffler
FTE 97up - Calibrated Butts
Re: FTE 97up - Calibrated Butts

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:38:21 -0500
From: tworites home.com
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 s.d camper wiring

Your 1999 sd is all set for you to wire,you will find a wire harness
in the glove box with instructions for your brake box just follow
directions,it plugs in under the dash after you wire it to the box,in
the rear of the truck,you will already have a 4 prong plug,for a boat,or
snowmobile trailer,aready installed.Also there is a harness under the
rear bumper with 7 wires they are color coded to match any larger plug
you will use ,just wire plug, mount it where you want it and you are all
set.If you need a wire diagram for the plug, any camper parts counter
would have it.Be sure if you are using a brake box to put the 2 large
fuses in the fuse box under the hood,and the 2 relays in the small black
box next to the fuse box under the hood,if not the brake box will not
work. Ray Wright Windsor CT. any questions e-mail me tworites home.com
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 15:19:56 GMT
From: alannorthstar mindspring.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy

On Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:33:14 EST, you wrote:

: Are you certain your truck doesn't have a thermostatic fan clutch?
:Did you check for a bi-metal spring on the front of the clutch? Could
:your original fan clutch be defective or prematurely worn out and stuck
:engaged at all times? It's difficult to believe that in these EPA and =
CAFE
:controlled times that it wasn't equipped with a thermostatic fan clutch.

If his is like my Ranger, the "clutch" is really a little fluid
coupling which gels up as the temperature rises to provide
maximum fan action when the engine operating temps are high.

The fluid is more liquid in the lower temp ranges, allowing the
fan to turn more slowly when temps are relatively low.

While this is a nice, simple system, doesn't use sensors,
switches and electric motors, personally, I'd prefer an electric
fan with a thermostat to switch it on and off, like many cars
have. =20

Later,
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:42:32 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - SD 5.4l gas mileage

The 5.4L Triton engine is great, I have one in my '98 Expedition. I chose
the V-10 for my '99 F-350 SuperDuty 4X4 because it weighs more than the
Expedition and will carry more when loaded. However, the I am sure the 5.4L
would have worked absolutely fine! It really hauls my Expy around!

Keith

- -----Original Message-----
From: Neil Plocek
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, February 26, 1999 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - SD 5.4l gas mileage


>I believe you are correct in your assumption that the dealer would probably
>not be interested in switching the differentials. I am no expert, but I
>don't think you would see any great increase in fuel mileage by replacing
>4.10's with 3.73 gears.
>
>The decision to buy the 5.4L over the V-10 or a PSD is a tough choice to
>make. I had to struggle with the same decision along with the problem of
>2x4 or 4x4. Naturally I wanted everything! After looking at reality, I
>couldn't justify the PSD or 4x4. (I just sold my 89 F250 XLT supercab 4x4
>7.3L diesel with 41,000 miles) I could not justify the cost of the PSD when
>the truck only gets about 4000 miles put on it a year. As for the 4x4
>option, it would be nice for the one time it might get used every year when
>we get a couple of inches of snow, but there is a 96 4x4 Ranger supercab
>sitting right next to the SD that does a fine job.
>
>Good luck with your decisions! I don't think you will be unhappy with the
>5.4L
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:46:36 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Ranger vs F150 vs SD 4x4

As you know, bigger is better.

Keith

- -----Original Message-----
From: Steve
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Ranger vs F150 vs SD 4x4


>JJ Thomas wrote:
>
>> The Ranger has back seat? I really cannot see anyone sitting in them.
>>
>> Do you know of anyone that makes after market fuel tanks for the Ranger?
>>
>> I did not know that there was that much aftermarket stuff available for
the
>> Ranger.
>>
>> -Julian
>
> I went through this decision process about 6 month ago. I originally
>ordered a loaded Ranger 4X4 SC. When I found out that the order had not
been
>sent in, I started to consider a F150 or F250. When I looked into my
options, I
>discovered that it would only cost me about $1000 more to get an F150, if I
did
>not get a SC, or ORP, which I don't like on the F150 anyway. The only
reason I
>had went with the SC on the Ranger was so that I would have space to put a
set
>of subs.
> I also considered a F250 SD with the same equipment as the F150 and the
V10,
>which would have cost an additional $1300 or so. I decided against the 250
>because It would have taken to long to come in. I was working at the
dealership
>at the time, and planing on moving as soon as my new vehicle came in.
> I talked to our inventory manager again, and he ordered the F150 and
the
>Ranger for me, so I could pick whichever one I wanted when they came in.
> While waiting on the trucks to come in, I determined that the
aftermarket
>options on the ranger were to few. I also decided it was to small.
> When the two trucks came in, just the way I wanted them, and I was able
to
>drive them back to back, it was a hands down decision for the F150.
> A week later when I had to tow my K5 Blazer across Texas, I was
definitely
>glad I had the F150. There is no way a Ranger could have handled that job.
>--
> Steve #1
>
>'99 F150 Regular Cab 5.4 4X4
>'97 Mustang GT
>'87 K5 Blazer 350 4X4
>
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 10:49:04 -0600
From: "Hoffer, John"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Cost of SD vs F150 - (was - SD 5.4l gas mileage)

Well, ain't that just the way of it.... Almost had the wife sold on the
truck (F-250 SD SC 4X4 5.4l 5spd), went to the dealership yesterday
afternoon to let her check it out in person, and there was another salesman
handing another fellow the keys! DOH! Oh well, I'll just stick to plan "A" -
shop around to determine exactly what I want, and then order it. Funny
thing is, that evening she said, "Well, maybe we could pay up for the
diesel..."

Incidentally, I had been looking at F-150's until I noticed that the 5.4 and
ORP put the pricetag well into the SuperDuty cost range (at least up to SD
F-250 XLT's). The SD is so much more truck, why are the prices overlapping?
Another couple grand over what one would pay for a F-150 XLT 5.4 ORP (around
$31k sticker), you can get the same trim level and a diesel (around $32-$33k
sticker). Am I missing something?

Currently I'm driving a 97 F-150 SC XLT, 4.2 and 5spd, and love it except I
need more "meat" out of my truck.

Thanks for everyone's input and assistance.

JohnH - Houston,TX


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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 11:56:15 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Mileage of f250SD 4x4 CC PSD Manual -Reply

Depends where you go to get your your "inspection". I know of a few people
who seem to pass inspection and emissions with the most modified systems you
can imagine. It's the old story, it's not what you know, it's who you know!

Keith


- -----Original Message-----
From: GEORGE CROLL
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, February 27, 1999 10:21 AM
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Mileage of f250SD 4x4 CC PSD Manual -Reply


>Before destroying an expensive cat think about this. All states are now
required to have vehicle inspection and
>maintenance programs very soon. This means a smog check. If your cat is
destroyed you will not pass and will be
>required to buy a new one. My guess is that this might run you 500 bucks
or more. I personally do not think the extra
>HP and mileage is worth the trouble but I work for EPA so that figures.
Not that I would advocate breaking the law
>and tampering with your emissions controls but if you really must remove
your cat couldn't your just replace it with a
>piece of pipe. That way it could be reinstalled if you sold the vehicle or
needed to pass a smog inspection. sorry for
>preaching but my first point is very valid. I had a heavily modified 76
chevy 4x4 which I had to sell out of state
>because California wouldn't give me registration unless I changed
everything back which would have cost me a
>bundle.
>George Croll
>EPA-OAR-ARD
>(202)564-0162
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:03:33 -0800
From: Jon Berman
Subject: FTE 97up - Fuel Economy

Hello,
Since we're on the subject of fuel economy, I thought I'd throw out this
question. I have a 1998 F150 w/3.73, 2wd, auto, 255/70R16 Goodyears
(Nascar edition). Currently I'm getting about 13-14 mpg with 70%
city/30% hwy driving. I also drive pretty conservatively.

At tire change time, I'm considering whether a tire one or two sizes
larger would really help decrease rpms and/or increase fuel economy.
Would it make much of a difference at all? Would eventually changing to
a 3.55 rear make much difference?

Thank you for any advice or suggestions,
Jon

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:25:05 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Fuel Economy

Many times adding larger tires is a wash mileage-wise (or you actually
decrease gas mileage). Even though your RPMs may be lower at cruising
speed, your throttle will be more open to power against the increased weight
and surface area (wind-resistance).

Keith


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From: Jon Berman
To: Ford truck mailing list
Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 12:09 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Fuel Economy


>Hello,
>Since we're on the subject of fuel economy, I thought I'd throw out this
>question. I have a 1998 F150 w/3.73, 2wd, auto, 255/70R16 Goodyears
>(Nascar edition). Currently I'm getting about 13-14 mpg with 70%
>city/30% hwy driving. I also drive pretty conservatively.
>
>At tire change time, I'm considering whether a tire one or two sizes
>larger would really help decrease rpms and/or increase fuel economy.
>Would it make much of a difference at all? Would eventually changing to
>a 3.55 rear make much difference?
>
>Thank you for any advice or suggestions,
>Jon
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:18:40 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy

Forwarded for djjthomas pop.seanet.com

Interesting Perspective... If I c*ncel my cable, I can afford to feed a
V10. Home Improvement is going off the air, MASH was gone a long time ago,
Geraldo's vault was empty... As long as I don't have to eat Macaroni &
Cheese, A V10 it is.

- -Julian - Never starved in college, Macaroni& Cheese - 5/$1.00

At 22:33 02/27/99 -0500, you wrote:
==========/ snip /==========
> You've got a nice truck, but if you're that concerned about fuel
>economy, you should have bought the V6. Let's look at your fuel
>economy numbers and try to put them into perspective. You claim
>12 MPG average, right? So, let's figure that you drive 20,000
>miles per year at an average fuel price of $1.00/gallon, just to
>make the calculations easy (remember, I'm a Dodge guy, I need
>all the help I can get)!
>20,000/12 = 1,667 dollars/12 = $139.00 dollars per month for
>fuel. So how much is your cable bill? phone bill? internet access
>charge? Are you as upset about those bills as you are about
>your fuel bill? Your truck gets you to work to earn the money
>to pay all the other bills, so it's a necessity, unlike some of the
>other bills which are generally unnecessary overhead.
>
>

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:42:57 EST
From: JCBANVILLE aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Annoying pedal vibration in 5.4L '99 Expedition! HELP!

Hi,
I'm brand new to this mailing list :)
Anyway, we bought a '99 4.6L XLT Exp. about 2 months ago. After 3000 miles, we
started wishing we had the 5.4L engine. Well, my wife spoke to our original
salesman who found one almost exactly like ours, but with a couple other
features (CD changer, driving lights, adjustable pedals). Anyway, he said
they'd give us what we paid for our 4.6L, minus $200, towards the 5.4L. The
total difference in price between upgrading is around $1500. This really works
to our advantage because we wouldn't have to buy a new tag for the 4.6L
($400!). Anyway, we picked up the 5.4L. As soon as I drove it, I noticed an
annoying vibration in the gas pedal. The vibration comes and goes. It seems
worse just before the transmission shifts. We've got the adjustable pedals
(not our choice), but I'm not sure if they contribute to the problem. The
pedals in the 4.6L were as smooth as can be. I've searched and searched, and
only found one message where someone who had a similar problem said it
finally went away on its own. Before I decide to keep the 5.4L, I just wanted
to know if anyone was familiar with this problem and offer a possible
solution? My idea is to replace the adjutable pedal with a seemingly more
stable non-adjutable pedal and damp vibration in the lightweight pedal brcket
by adding some mass to the bracket. Maybe have a couple pieces of squared-off
iron bars about 1/2" wide, welded to each side along the length of the
bracket, and painted black. I read a service bulletin on the NTSBA website
where some vibration in the pedal on older Exp.'s could be caused by the
trottle cord contact something around the engine. Looking at the throttle
cable between the firewall and pedal, there is a short length that never
contacts anything. I was thinking about trying to dampen any vibrations in the
cable by adding some mass to the cable in this spot. Maybe a couple small
peices of heavy rubber, held tightly to the couple with a few zip-ties? I
realize any of my ideas would only come into play if the Ford Service Center
is able to fix it. One more thing, there is a large gap between the top of
the front bumper and the bottom of the grill/lights. It's about 1" wide. I
think our 4.6 didn't have any more than a 1/4" gap in that spot. Is this
normal for the 5.4L? I was thinking that this may be to let more air get to
the engine.

thanks
JimB
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 19:24:20 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Excursion...crying towel out

Did anyone see CBS News and quite a few other news channels on the unveiling
of Excursion? Basically same as Super Duty. Looks really nice from what i
see, the rear door has two small swing out doors and top one opens up, reminds
me of a barn door. The Sierra club is now crying that it guzzles so much
gas...yada yada yada. (no offense to all you tree huggers). I mean hec its
that same thing as the SD truck, so their is no room to complain. There is
probably no difference in gas mileage and emissions between it and a Sububan,
etc. So i suggest they do there home work before they start picking on FoMoCo.
I would rather be safe in a excursion, than on the roof in a jap car.

Ross S.
RSR Inc.
99 F250 SD PSD/SC/4x4
9sec93cobra
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 19:46:44 -0500
From: "Eddie Pettit"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Excursion...crying towel out

I prefer to offend 'tree huggers' every chance I get. :-)

>me of a barn door. The Sierra club is now crying that it guzzles so much
>gas...yada yada yada. (no offense to all you tree huggers).

Seriously, the above statement is half truth and half joke so don't get bent
out of joint.

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 19:45:23 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy

Russ Burns wrote:
>
> I am not too fond of the thermostatic fan clutch's. If your radiator
> becomes particaly blocked, there is not enough heat to engage the fan the
> engine will overheat.
>
> russ
>
Russ,

If your rad becomes partially blocked, regardless of the
type of fan it will possible overheat. Air going over the
fins in the rad is what cools it off. If these ribs are
blocked and air cannot circulate it will overheat. Granted
there might be better methods to cool the rad down but the
cheapest is the setup used on the trucks. If you choose to
use an electric i would caution you to purchase one that
will move as much air as the present fan over the entire
surface of the rad.


Regards

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 20:46:13 -0500
From: Russ Burns
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy

At 07:45 PM 2/28/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Russ Burns wrote:
>>
>> I am not too fond of the thermostatic fan clutch's. If your radiator
>> becomes particaly blocked, there is not enough heat to engage the fan the
>> engine will overheat.
>>
>> russ
>>
>Russ,
>
> If your rad becomes partially blocked, regardless of the
>type of fan it will possible overheat. Air going over the
>fins in the rad is what cools it off. If these ribs are
>blocked and air cannot circulate it will overheat. Granted
>there might be better methods to cool the rad down but the
>cheapest is the setup used on the trucks. If you choose to
>use an electric i would caution you to purchase one that
>will move as much air as the present fan over the entire
>surface of the rad.
>
>
>Regards
>
>Jean Marc Chartier
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I just prefer a fixed fan. I overheated pulling a trailer with a radiator
which had some scaling issues. I ended up drilling and bolting the thermal
fan in order to finish my trip. I gave some thought to an electric fan
triggered on engine heat, but could not find one to my likeing. I ended up
going back to the oem thermal fan, but keeping the fixed one for emergencies.

Russ


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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 21:30:03 -0500
From: psjlelliott juno.com
Subject: FTE 97up - The Great Fuel usage debate -- my $0.02

My latest calculations -- about 17 MPG in town. Just got 21 MPG highway
(65 to 80 MPH, depending on traffic and weird bursts of wet snow). Truck
is 4x2 F150, short bed, reg. cab, 4.2L, five speed, 3.08 gears, soft
tonneau cover. Just turned 1000m. (btw, I don't have a log of the exact
times and gas stations, I just do the math in my head each time I reset
the trip meter.) I'm thrilled, as I didn't expect to do this well. My
short wheel base full size Dodge B-1500 Van with 3.9L V-6 and auto tranny
only gets 17 or 18 mpg on the road when driven easy. (side note to the
Dodge guy - that van is really my wife's van, and it is probably the last
Dodge I will ever own, if I can help it...)

For you guys with the monster trucks (), whaddya expect?? The real
reason to monitor fuel economy (and to compare results), is to monitor
engine performance and health over longer periods. Sudden, unexplainable
decreases in MPG reveal potential mechanical problems. Performance can
be increased, but MPG is largely a factor of weight and wind resistance.
If you get a 5.4L V-8 (or bigger) and a SD truck, you'll have a blast,
and you can do tremendous amounts of work with it, but you'll fill it at
the pump. If it is really needed, then the cost is justified. If it is
only wanted (i.e., for power and fun) then whining is unneccesary, just
go have fun!!!!

Sorry if I'm out of bounds -- but I feel better.

- - Pete

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 23:42:42 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy

Russ Burns wrote:
>
> At 07:45 PM 2/28/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >Russ Burns wrote:
> >>
> >> I am not too fond of the thermostatic fan clutch's. If your radiator
> >> becomes particaly blocked, there is not enough heat to engage the fan the
> >> engine will overheat.
> >>
> >> russ
> >>
> >Russ,
> >
> > If your rad becomes partially blocked, regardless of the
> >type of fan it will possible overheat. Air going over the
> >fins in the rad is what cools it off. If these ribs are
> >blocked and air cannot circulate it will overheat. Granted
> >there might be better methods to cool the rad down but the
> >cheapest is the setup used on the trucks. If you choose to
> >use an electric i would caution you to purchase one that
> >will move as much air as the present fan over the entire
> >surface of the rad.
> >
> >
> >Regards
> >
> >Jean Marc Chartier
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> I just prefer a fixed fan. I overheated pulling a trailer with a radiator
> which had some scaling issues. I ended up drilling and bolting the thermal
> fan in order to finish my trip. I gave some thought to an electric fan
> triggered on engine heat, but could not find one to my likeing. I ended up
> going back to the oem thermal fan, but keeping the fixed one for emergencies.
>
> Russ
>

Russ,

I wonder if a flex fan would work?

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 00:09:34 EST
From: JCBANVILLE aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Anyone using K&N air filter? Waht are the results?

I'm contemplating purchasing one for either a 4.6 or 5.4L '99 Expedition. I
assume they would be the same. Anyone actually FEEL an increase in power? Did
your gas milage suffer? Is your engine louder? The reason I ask about the
loudness is that I knew an older police officer who would trun the air filter
cover upside-down on his old patrolcar, which nearly exposed the entire filter
to the air under the hood, instead of just that coming in the air filter
housing duct. He said it allowed more air into the system, thus increasing
POWER. I don't know about added power, but it did make the engine much louder.
I wouldn't want that in my Expedition :)

thanks
JimB
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:25:00 EST
From: WoodStck45 aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - locking differential

Fellow Ford Owners

I am going to buy a locking differential for the rear of my 1991 Ford F-250
pickup. I was going to get the Powertrax Lockright, but then i heard it was
only good for about 50,000 miles. Is this true? I was told to get a Detroit
Locker but how much more money will it be? And will i have to adjust the ring
and pinion settings? I definatly want posi 100% of the time except on the
turns (i think that a lockright and detroit lock and un lock on turns). I was
wondering what you guys thought about these two lockers, and if you knew of
any other lockers that did the exact same thing only maybe cheaper. On which
ones will I not have to reset the ring and pinion?

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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:35:14 -0800
From: "Neil Plocek"
Subject: FTE 97up - TSB's

Do any of you know if there is a web site available where you can read the
entire TSB? I've found a few sites that give a brief description of what
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:55:43 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy

In a message dated 99-02-28 23:45:03 EST, you write:


you ever had a flex fan? talk about a noisemaker, i dont think i could ever
put up with that around town after riding in a few friends muscle cars that
had them.

RS

Russ,

I wonder if a flex fan would work?

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 01:58:48 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Anyone using K&N air filter? Waht are the results?

In a message dated 99-03-01 00:12:31 EST, you write:

5-10 hp, and it wont be any louder its not that much of a increase in flow.

RS


Date:99-03-01 00:12:31 EST
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I'm contemplating purchasing one for either a 4.6 or 5.4L '99 Expedition. I
assume they would be the same. Anyone actually FEEL an increase in power? Did
your gas milage suffer? Is your engine louder? The reason I ask about the
loudness is that I knew an older police officer who would trun the air filter
cover upside-down on his old patrolcar, which nearly exposed the entire
filter
to the air under the hood, instead of just that coming in the air filter
housing duct. He said it allowed more air into the system, thus increasing
POWER. I don't know about added power, but it did make the engine much
louder.
I wouldn't want that in my Expedition :)

thanks
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 06:40:37 -0700
From: "Matus, Scott A"
Subject: FTE 97up - PSD Dual Alternator

This weekend I was working on my truck and noticed having only 1 alternator.
I thought that the 99 PSD came standard with two alternators. I read
through the SD F Series sales literature (Original Version) and see two
alternators. It references having two alternators as an option. When I
looked at the list of available options for this truck, the dual alternator
is not listed. I'm thinking this is a dealer installed option?

Then I look a the Combined F Series literature (latest version). Sure every
picture of the PSD has two alternators, and an asterisk note at the bottom.
The note states that the Dual Alternator is an option only on Ambulance
Package. I understand that Ford Option 47Z is coded on "All Orders Not
Destined for Ambulance Use". Does this mean that if coded in the order I
would have received two alternators without Charge?

Confusing at best. Does anyone have two alternators on their PSD? If so
how did you order it? Specifically what option number did you use?

Thank you,

Scott Matus
99 F350 4x4 CC PSD 6sp SRW Lariat
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 14:16:59 GMT
From: alannorthstar mindspring.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Fuel Economy

On Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:25:05 -0500, you wrote:

:Many times adding larger tires is a wash mileage-wise (or you actually
:decrease gas mileage). Even though your RPMs may be lower at cruising
:speed, your throttle will be more open to power against the increased =
weight
:and surface area (wind-resistance).
:
:Keith
:
Actually, the larger tires give you a slightly different final
drive ratio, because they're bigger around -- each rotation of
the tire takes you a little farther down the road.

This translates into a numerically lower final drive ratio, which
means your "high" gear just became a little "higher". So, your
motor has to work a little harder to tool you on down the road.
Whether the engine will use a little more gas to do this, or
whether the added travel for each tire rotation is going to
predominate, I don't know. Probably a wash.

Later, =20

Alan
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:13:31 -0500
From: "Larry Hackler"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - TSB's

The site is: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/servicemmy1.cfm

It's a government site, but don't let that bother you it has a lot of good
information.

Larry
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Date: Monday, March 01, 1999 1:37 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - TSB's


>Do any of you know if there is a web site available where you can read the
>entire TSB? I've found a few sites that give a brief description of what
>the TSB subject covers, but there are no details.
>
>
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:02:37 EST
From: RAMWORKER aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy

Yes, I have. I have one on one of my old cars that sounds like an airplane
propeller.
It's constructed of stainless steel and works very well as a fan, and
convincing
others that I have a bad fan clutch.
However, there are quieter ones, case in point, older Fords commonly had flex
fans
that work very well and are quiet. Check out early '70s full size Ford cars.
They don't wear out, just find one in good condition.
Now that I've said that, I'll say this, these new vehicles run at very low RPM
cruising down the highway, therefore, I think there is very little to gain or
lose
through the fan. YMMV

Best Regards,
Robert

In a message dated 3/1/99 1:00:04 AM Central Standard Time, RSnovi aol.com
writes:

> you ever had a flex fan? talk about a noisemaker, i dont think i could
ever
> put up with that around town after riding in a few friends muscle cars that
> had them.
>
> RS
>
> Russ,
>
> I wonder if a flex fan would work?
>
> Regards
>
> Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 09:20:31 EST
From: RAMWORKER aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - locking differential

Paul,

Only one of the lockers will not have to have the ring and pinion reset, that
is
the Lock Right.
Ford has a long history with Detroit Locker, back to 1970 Mustangs, so you
can be reasonably certain that it is a good product.
They do lock and unlock on turns, with a good deal of commotion. You may
not like the noise and handling characteristics after you've lived with one
for a while.
Maybe you should find someone who has a locker equipped truck and test drive
it to see if you think you could tolerate it.
I have no idea what the Detroit Locker costs, but the Lock Right cost me just
over $300.00 some years ago, installation can be done on the Lock Right in
something over an hour, so installation cost is low.

Best Regards,
Robert

In a message dated 3/1/99 12:29:52 AM Central Standard Time,
WoodStck45 aol.com writes:

> I am going to buy a locking differential for the rear of my 1991 Ford F-250
> pickup. I was going to get the Powertrax Lockright, but then i heard it
was
> only good for about 50,000 miles. Is this true? I was told to get a
> Detroit
> Locker but how much more money will it be? And will i have to adjust the
> ring
> and pinion settings? I definatly want posi 100% of the time except on the
> turns (i think that a lockright and detroit lock and un lock on turns). I
> was
> wondering what you guys thought about these two lockers, and if you knew of
> any other lockers that did the exact same thing only maybe cheaper. On
> which
> ones will I not have to reset the ring and pinion?
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:38:43 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F250 finally here..

Congraduations Max! The Lariat interior really makes it doesn't it!

Enjoy,

Charles.

max gaub wrote:

> My truck is here finally. It apparently came in yesterday, and dealer
> didn't call or say anything. I happened to see it when I drove by, I
> guess I've been doing this more often since hearing about what happened
> to our friend Charles. I get to pick it up on Monday after it goes
> through PDI. Ordered it on Dec. 22 with a priority of 80 from the
> dealer. 3 weeks later it had a build date and was priority 1 (reassigned
> by regional office, I guess). Total of 10 weeks. Damn it looks nice.
>
> F-250 SD CC Lariat PSD 4x2 with everything possible for a 4x2
> This is one VERY happy guy
>
> Max G.
>
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 08:01:58 -0800
From: Joe Zuk
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: 99 SD Camper Wiring

Hey Mattb,I just installed a camper on my 99 F250, I have the camper package and there is not wiring pre installed on the
truck. When I installed the camper I ran two wires from the battery back to the bed. Both wires are fused. I don't have an
extra battery in the camper so I didn't need to figure out how to run a switched power source back to the camper. A rumor
that I heard is that all 99 SDs come with the trailer wiring in place, its mounted behind the rear bumper and none of the
fuses are in place. When you order the trailer tow package one of the things they do is give you the fuses and the 7 pin
trailer connector. Anyway one of these wires should be a switched 12V.
Good luck,
Joe


> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 13:37:20 -0800
> From: "Matt Bailey"
> Subject: FTE 97up - 99 SD Camper Wiring
>
> Can anyone tell me how the camper wiring works. I ordered my SD with the
> camper package but don't have any info on how I'm supposed to wire my
> camper.
>
> Thanx,
> Mattb
>



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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 08:05:35 -0800
From: Joe Zuk
Subject: FTE 97up - Some good news on the Excursion?

>From the Sat. San Jose newspaper.
New York Times

DEARBORN, Mich. -- Ford Motor Co. on Friday introduced the first
design change to make sport utility vehicles less dangerous in crashes
with cars.

It said its newest sport utility vehicle, a behemoth that will be the tallest
and heaviest ever made, would be equipped with hollow steel bars
mounted below the front and rear bumpers to prevent it from riding over
cars during collisions.

The horizontal steel beams hang down six inches from the high-riding
steel frame of the vehicle, which is called the Ford Excursion, stands
nearly 7 feet tall and weighs more than three tons. Priya Prasad, Ford's
top safety researcher, said that if an Excursion without the steel beams
collided with the front of a Ford Taurus with both vehicles traveling at 30
mph, the Excursion would ride up over the Taurus' hood.

But with the steel beam in front, the Excursion would only crush the
Taurus' front end as far back as the front wheels and would not ride over
the hood, leaving the passenger compartment of the Taurus relatively
intact, Prasad said.

Any car or other family vehicle hit by an Excursion is still likely to suffer
heavy damage. In an interview last April, Prasad said weight differences
caused 60 percent to 90 percent of the extra deaths and injuries found in
collisions between mismatched vehicles. But British researchers have
estimated that height differences, which Ford is trying to address,
account for three-quarters of the extra damage.

All Excursions sold in the United States will also meet California's criteria
for low-emission light trucks, Ford officials confirmed Friday. This air
pollution standard is roughly comparable to current federal standards for
tailpipe emissions from cars.

Safety and environmental advocates still had criticisms Friday of the
Excursion, which will go on sale this fall. Safety experts pointed out that
the vehicle weighs twice as much as a midsized car and is still likely to do
tremendous damage in a crash.

Environmentalists said the Excursion's low gas mileage -- as little as 10
miles per gallon in the city with the V-10 engine -- would contribute to
global warming and encourage oil exploration in fragile wildernesses.


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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 10:14:40 -0600
From: Todd Styles
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Re: 99 SD Camper Wiring

My truck came with the camper package and the towing package. It has the
4-pin connector mounted on the bumper and the 7-pin wiring (un-terminated)
tucked up near the spare with color-coding wiring instructions. I thought
it was odd that it didn't come with the regular 7-pin connector
pre-installed like my F-150. I assumed they wired it like that so you could
adapt it to a gooseneck or 5-wheel harness if you wanted. Do they all come
this way? It kind of irks me that I have the towing package and have to go
purchase my own connector.
Todd, '99 F250SD,SC,XLT,PSD 6-SPEED,4x2 SB....
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 08:17:41 -0800
From: Danny Gaudenti
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Fan clutch and fuel economy

>Yes, I have. I have one on one of my old cars that sounds like an airplane
>propeller.
>It's constructed of stainless steel and works very well as a fan, and
>convincing
>others that I have a bad fan clutch.
>However, there are quieter ones, case in point, older Fords commonly had flex
>fans
>that work very well and are quiet. Check out early '70s full size Ford cars.
>They don't wear out, just find one in good condition.
>Now that I've said that, I'll say this, these new vehicles run at very low
RPM
>cruising down the highway, therefore, I think there is very little to gain or
>lose
>through the fan. YMMV
>
> Best Regards,
> Robert

Yep, that's was I was going to say. Flex fans are designed to flatten out
at high RPM and suck lots of air at low RPM. I had one on my old car. You
could rev the engine and see it flatten out, but never completely flat so
even cruising it's still sucking air when you don't need it to. I went to
an electric. With the 3.08 rear-end cruising on the freeway, it probably
won't be flexed very much and still putting an un-necessary load on the
engine. I'm going to go electric.

Danny
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 11:28:16 -0500
From: "John Luft"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Re: 99 SD Camper Wiring

I too got the towing package with the wires tucked up underneath by the
hitch. My guess at the reason why they don't include the 7 pin connector is
that not all trailer makers have standardized on one connector (and w/ the
SD, there are a lot more trailer options available!). I upgraded from a
bl*z*r to an F-250 SD CC and just moved the connector from the old vehicle
to the new.

John

>>> Todd Styles 03/01/99 11:14AM >>>

My truck came with the camper package and the towing package. It has the
4-pin connector mounted on the bumper and the 7-pin wiring (un-terminated)
tucked up near the spare with color-coding wiring instructions. I thought
it was odd that it didn't come with the regular 7-pin connector
pre-installed like my F-150. I assumed they wired it like that so you
could
adapt it to a gooseneck or 5-wheel harness if you wanted. Do they all
come
this way? It kind of irks me that I have the towing package and have to
go
purchase my own connector.
Todd, '99 F250SD,SC,XLT,PSD 6-SPEED,4x2 SB....
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:48:12 -0600
From: "David Moore"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - PSD Dual Alternator

I read it the same as you... Only on the ambulance package. Do you /need/
two?

David

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To: 'F 97 - New'
Subject: FTE 97up - PSD Dual Alternator


This weekend I was working on my truck and noticed having only 1 alternator.
I thought that the 99 PSD came standard with two alternators. I read
through the SD F Series sales literature (Original Version) and see two
alternators. It references having two alternators as an option. When I
looked at the list of available options for this truck, the dual alternator
is not listed. I'm thinking this is a dealer installed option?

Then I look a the Combined F Series literature (latest version). Sure every
picture of the PSD has two alternators, and an asterisk note at the bottom.
The note states that the Dual Alternator is an option only on Ambulance
Package. I understand that Ford Option 47Z is coded on "All Orders Not
Destined for Ambulance Use". Does this mean that if coded in the order I
would have received two alternators without Charge?

Confusing at best. Does anyone have two alternators on their PSD? If so
how did you order it? Specifically what option number did you use?

Thank you,

Scott Matus
99 F350 4x4 CC PSD 6sp SRW Lariat
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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 09:52:32 -0800
From: Danny Gaudenti
Subject: FTE 97up - new muffler

I bought a new muffler a while ago and finally got it installed this
weekend! I bought a Flowmaster 50 series muffler (42551) for $60, a 45
degree, mandrel-bent pipe (from JCWhitney) for $9 and a two clamps for $2.
I cut the old system off just before the muffler, clamped on the muffler
and then clamped on the 45 degree pipe and aimed it down. I asked a tech
at Flowmaster what I need for best performance and he said all I need is
18" of pipe before the muffler and 10" after. My home-made system meets
that easily, so it will perform as good as a "ready-made" cat-back system.

The sound at idle is a little louder (it makes a nice rumble), and at
cruise on the freeway on level ground it's just slightly louder (I think).
Accelerating can be either a roar or a rumble, depending on when I shift
and how hard I'm pushing it. If I wanted it quieter, I could have brought
the exit out to the side (as the stock '97s are). The guy at Flowmaster
said that would make it a lot quieter. I'm going to leave it as it is for
now, I'm enjoying it. :)

The important thing (and the main reason I put the muffler on): It
definitely has more oomph. I only expected a gain at mid to high RPM, but
I think I gained a little all over. It now takes less clutch slipping and
lower RPM to launch it from a stop. I thought it was my imagination at
first, but, if at too low an RPM or letting the clutch out a little too
fast, it used to bog, complain and then go...Now it just goes!

So if you want an inexpensive, performance exhaust system, you don't have
to spend $200-$500 for a system. If our 6-year old didn't come out to
"help", I could have installed it in 2 or 3 hours. I'm not just trying to
be cheap, I just wanted to do it myself (and I sure don't mind saving
$100+). Also, Flowmaster makes mufflers that are quieter and louder than
what I bought (mine is closer to the loud side) so you can customize the
sound the way you want it.

Danny
'98 F-150, RC, SB, 4x2, 4.2L, 5-sp, 3.08
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:01:17 -0800
From: "Harald Stenger"
Subject: FTE 97up - Fuel economy with 4.30 Axle

After seeing the fuel economy that people are getting with the 3.73 ratio, I
guess the 4.30 isn't much worse. I have the 99 F350 SC, LWB, V10, ESOF, SRW
XLT. There's no computer, so I check my mileage with pen and paper (I hear
the computers aren't very accurate). I just checked my records and the
worst was 7.6 mpg while my 12 foot, 3800 lb camper was installed and I was
driving around town stop and go, up and down hills. My best mileage was
10.3 also around town, but with some highway driving mixed in. On average
around town I get 9 mpg. Keep in mind that I live near Seattle and I drive
up and down hills continuously and the traffic is getting as bad as any
large city which means much stop and go. I also have a lead foot. I
haven't tried a pure highway trip without my camper installed to see what
the best possible mileage could be. I do love that 4.30 axle when it's time
to haul a** off the line, especially when that camper is installed.

Harald


"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin

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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 11:31:24 -0800
From: "Harald Stenger"
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: SD camper wiring

The camper package doesn't include a connector wired up to install your
camper. I believe all you get are sway bars, heavy front springs, and the
contact overload spring on the rear. I negotiated the wiring into the price
of my camper, so they did it for me at the RV dealer. The connector is
installed just forward of the left wheel well inside the bed. The wiring
runs from this connector to the main wire bundle on the left frame rail.

Harald

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin

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Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 12:36:20 -0800
From: denton sprague
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - new muffler

I wonder what it does to gas milage??

Danny Gaudenti wrote:

> I bought a new muffler a while ago and finally got it installed this
> weekend! I bought a Flowmaster 50 series muffler (42551) for $60, a 45
> degree, mandrel-bent pipe (from JCWhitney) for $9 and a two clamps for $2.
> I cut the old system off just before the muffler, clamped on the muffler
> and then clamped on the 45 degree pipe and aimed it down. I asked a tech
> at Flowmaster what I need for best performance and he said all I need is
> 18" of pipe before the muffler and 10" after. My home-made system meets
> that easily, so it will perform as good as a "ready-made" cat-back system.
>
> The sound at idle is a little louder (it makes a nice rumble), and at
> cruise on the freeway on level ground it's just slightly louder (I think).
> Accelerating can be either a roar or a rumble, depending on when I shift
> and how hard I'm pushing it. If I wanted it quieter, I could have brought
> the exit out to the side (as the stock '97s are). The guy at Flowmaster
> said that would make it a lot quieter. I'm going to leave it as it is for
> now, I'm enjoying it. :)
>
> The important thing (and the main reason I put the muffler on): It
> definitely has more oomph. I only expected a gain at mid to high RPM, but
> I think I gained a little all over. It now takes less clutch slipping and
> lower RPM to launch it from a stop. I thought it was my imagination at
> first, but, if at too low an RPM or letting the clutch out a little too
> fast, it used to bog, complain and then go...Now it just goes!
>
> So if you want an inexpensive, performance exhaust system, you don't have
> to spend $200-$500 for a system. If our 6-year old didn't come out to
> "help", I could have installed it in 2 or 3 hours. I'm not just trying to
> be cheap, I just wanted to do it myself (and I sure don't mind saving
> $100+). Also, Flowmaster makes mufflers that are quieter and louder than
> what I bought (mine is closer to the loud side) so you can customize the
> sound the way you want it.
>
> Danny
> '98 F-150, RC, SB, 4x2, 4.2L, 5-sp, 3.08
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 17:58:03 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: FTE 97up - Calibrated Butts

I know a lot of people have been making improvements to their Expys and
F-Series Trucks. New K&N Filters, exhaust systems, and chips, etc. Many
report that "it feels better, more power" and "now it's got faster
acceleration", etc. etc., etc.

There are a few ways to truly find out if you have improved performance that
will allow you to separate your "feelings" from the cold, hard facts.

1. Put your vehicle on a Dynamometer. I did this with my Expy / '98 / 4X4
/ XLT / 5.4L / 3.73LS and did several runs both with and without a K&N Air
Filter. The K&N did not make any difference in torque or horsepower at any
RPM (up to about 5,400 RPM when the limiter started to kick in). Note: I
did not have my Borla exhaust then, so maybe the K&N will improve
performance with a better-flowing exhaust and one of the new replacement
air-boxes (Generation-II).

2. Go to the track or other favorite "out-of-the-way spot" and do some
strictly timed runs.

3. Purchase, borrow or otherwise obtain on of those "accelerometers" that
are advertised in speed magazines for about $200. They are dash mounted and
they measure acceleration force. You just plug in your vehicle parameters
and they detect the force on the microchip during acceleration and display
torque and/or horsepower. Reviews of them have been very positive and have
shown them to be quite accurate and precise.

Many factors (e.g., increased noise) can lead people to believe that they
are getting increased performance when they are not. When it comes to
aftermarket "improvements", Buyer Beware.


Keith



- -----Original Message-----
From: Danny Gaudenti
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, March 01, 1999 12:55 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - new muffler


>I bought a new muffler a while ago and finally got it installed this
>weekend! I bought a Flowmaster 50 series muffler (42551) for $60, a 45
>degree, mandrel-bent pipe (from JCWhitney) for $9 and a two clamps for $2.
>I cut the old system off just before the muffler, clamped on the muffler
>and then clamped on the 45 degree pipe and aimed it down. I asked a tech
>at Flowmaster what I need for best performance and he said all I need is
>18" of pipe before the muffler and 10" after. My home-made system meets
>that easily, so it will perform as good as a "ready-made" cat-back system.
>
>The sound at idle is a little louder (it makes a nice rumble), and at
>cruise on the freeway on level ground it's just slightly louder (I think).
>Accelerating can be either a roar or a rumble, depending on when I shift
>and how hard I'm pushing it. If I wanted it quieter, I could have brought
>the exit out to the side (as the stock '97s are). The guy at Flowmaster
>said that would make it a lot quieter. I'm going to leave it as it is for
>now, I'm enjoying it. :)
>
>The important thing (and the main reason I put the muffler on): It
>definitely has more oomph. I only expected a gain at mid to high RPM, but
>I think I gained a little all over. It now takes less clutch slipping and
>lower RPM to launch it from a stop. I thought it was my imagination at
>first, but, if at too low an RPM or letting the clutch out a little too
>fast, it used to bog, complain and then go...Now it just goes!
>
>So if you want an inexpensive, performance exhaust system, you don't have
>to spend $200-$500 for a system. If our 6-year old didn't come out to
>"help", I could have installed it in 2 or 3 hours. I'm not just trying to
>be cheap, I just wanted to do it myself (and I sure don't mind saving
>$100+). Also, Flowmaster makes mufflers that are quieter and louder than
>what I bought (mine is closer to the loud side) so you can customize the
>sound the way you want it.
>
>Danny
>'98 F-150, RC, SB, 4x2, 4.2L, 5-sp, 3.08
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Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 15:26:20 -0800
From: "Hans Luckoff"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Calibrated Butts

I,m glad Keith told it like it is. I can't believe how gullible some people
are. I worked for FoMoCo for 31 years back in the days when we build lots of
427's. What some guys now see as performance increases is laughable. Hans
- -----Original Message-----
From: Keith Veren
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, March 01, 1999 3:07 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Calibrated Butts


>I know a lot of people have been making improvements to their Expys and
>F-Series Trucks. New K&N Filters, exhaust systems, and chips, etc. Many
>report that "it feels better, more power" and "now it's got faster
>acceleration", etc. etc., etc.
>
>There are a few ways to truly find out if you have improved performance
that
>will allow you to separate your "feelings" from the cold, hard facts.
>
>1. Put your vehicle on a Dynamometer. I did this with my Expy / '98 / 4X4
>/ XLT / 5.4L / 3.73LS and did several runs both with and without a K&N Air
>Filter. The K&N did not make any difference in torque or horsepower at any
>RPM (up to about 5,400 RPM when the limiter started to kick in). Note: I
>did not have my Borla exhaust then, so maybe the K&N will improve
>performance with a better-flowing exhaust and one of the new replacement
>air-boxes (Generation-II).
>
>2. Go to the track or other favorite "out-of-the-way spot" and do some
>strictly timed runs.
>
>3. Purchase, borrow or otherwise obtain on of those "accelerometers" that
>are advertised in speed magazines for about $200. They are dash mounted
and
>they measure acceleration force. You just plug in your vehicle parameters
>and they detect the force on the microchip during acceleration and display
>torque and/or horsepower. Reviews of them have been very positive and have
>shown them to be quite accurate and precise.
>
>Many factors (e.g., increased noise) can lead people to believe that they
>are getting increased performance when they are not. When it comes to
>aftermarket "improvements", Buyer Beware.
>
>
>Keith
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Danny Gaudenti
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Date: Monday, March 01, 1999 12:55 PM
>Subject: FTE 97up - new muffler....


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