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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - Advice on tow vehicle
Re: FTE 97up - Advice on tow vehicle
FTE 97up - Bud's towing
Re: FTE 97up - Advice on tow vehicle
FTE 97up - Advice on tow vehicle
FTE 97up - Re: PSD Filter Drain
FTE 97up - PSD Fuel Fileter Drain
Re: FTE 97up - PSD Fuel Fileter Drain
Re: FTE 97up - PSD Fuel Fileter Drain
FTE 97up - VIN Mystery Code
Re: FTE 97up - VIN Mystery Code
Re: FTE 97up - which gears for PSD?
FTE 97up - 99 SuperDuty SERVICE MANUALS
FTE 97up - Re: Final Drive Ratio
Re: FTE 97up - VIN Mystery Code
Re: FTE 97up - 99 SuperDuty SERVICE MANUALS
FTE 97up - Beware the Service WorkShop Manuals!
Re: FTE 97up - 99 SuperDuty SERVICE MANUALS
FTE 97up - Super Duty tires
FTE 97up - Ranger question
Re: FTE 97up - Ranger question
Re: FTE 97up - VIN Mystery Code
Re: FTE 97up - VIN Mystery Code w/ tracking info
Re: FTE 97up - Ranger question

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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 04:31:43 PST
From: "Frank Spor"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Advice on tow vehicle

Bud
What can you get the tongue weight down to ? I have towed A mobile home
(50 ft) unknown actual weight behind an 87 F 150 6 Cyl 4 spd.

If you are just "moving the boat around" I would get a good frame
mounted hitch, balance the boat to maybe 250 Lbs on the ball, put the
tow vehicle in low range, and go easy.

So go ahead, I put on my asbestos underwear....

Frank

And remember kids....I'm a professional, don't try this at home.

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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 08:52:06 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Advice on tow vehicle

Bud Feuless & Miki Magara wrote:
>
> Well, that new F-250 SD didn't work out... but I still have this boat and
> trailer that will weight about 8500 - 10000 # with gear, water, full fuel
> tanks, etc... and I'm trying to figure out the best way to haul it. All I
> will need to do is pull it up and down the ramp and about the 1/2 mile to my
> storage shed (for now). There is a levee between that I will need to climb
> and the grade is probably 10%.
>
MAJOR SNIP
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Regards, Bud
>
Bud,

Have you looked into renting a truck (that will do the
job) for a day. Try Rider,U_Haul etc..

Regards

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:31:57 EST
From: JPatte5238 aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Bud's towing

Bud,

Keep the Explorer, it seems that you like it very much and selling it would
only make you kick yourself later on. The thing that I would do is...keep the
Explorer, then purchase an older type (Ford, Chevy, Dodge what ever)
truck/van to haul the boat back and forth. I talking about beater, just good
enough to do the heavy hauling.

John Patterson
sorry about the chevy and dodge thing.
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:32:44 EST
From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Advice on tow vehicle

Seems like this depends on how you plan to use the boat:

You want to tow the boat to the ramp on a regular basis. 1/2 mile or so and
the 10% grade. I wouldn't mess with your Explorer beyond perhaps putting on an
equalizer hitch but even then that's risky. High mileage and around town use
suddenly being asked to play tractor is asking for problems and potentially
expensive ones.

The idea of a big engined husky beater has merit but you suddenly are going
to add costs of Insurance, taxes, and ongoing repairs just to get it to where
you can get it to start and stop reliably.

What isn't clear is this. Will you always use the boat in the same place? If
the answer is yes, then why trailer? Rent a mooring nearby and leave the boat
in the water. Bet you will find the costs will be less that maintaining
another vehicle even if you have to invest in set of covers. That and it's a
lot less of a pain to just get in the boat and take off Vs having to unload
and load on a trailer each trip.

If you plan to haul the boat around to other sites the decision gets closer
to a no brainer. The Explorer is out. The old tranny won't deal with it and a
high mileage engine will suddenly catch some sort of automotive flu if you
constantly push it. A Beater is out, the reliability factor over distance
stinks. This leaves you with getting another vehicle with tow capacity and
reliability. Whether recent preowned or new, second vehicle or replace the
Explorer is your budget call.

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:42:55 -0500
From: "Mike McNany"
Subject: FTE 97up - Advice on tow vehicle

"Bud Feuless & Miki Magara"
wrote:
Snip
and
trailer that will weight about 8500 - 10000 # with gear, water, full fuel
tanks, etc... and I'm trying to figure out the best way to haul it. All I
will need to do is pull it up and down the ramp and about the 1/2 mile to my
storage shed (for now). There is a levee between that I will need to climb
and the grade is probably 10%.>
If there is a non-tow option, take it. IOW, is there any way you could have
a seasonal mooring, at a dock or even at anchor whit your boat. Sounds like
it's close enough to home. Even if you have to haul fuel. Then you could
just pay someone to put in at the beginning of the Season and out at the
end.
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:46:15 -0500
From: Gary & Nancy Brinck
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: PSD Filter Drain

> there is a drain i should be worried about for fuel filter....some info would
> be helpfull on location

Ross,
The fuel filter is located front center, atop the engine. On a 99
at least, it is under a shield and the drain lever is toward the
rear of the engine. See your separate Diesel owners manual (not
the base F250/350 manual) for location and maintenance.
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:51:47 -0500
From: Gary & Nancy Brinck
Subject: FTE 97up - PSD Fuel Fileter Drain

> I connect a clear hose to the drain tube and extend it into a plastic milk
> bottle. ...Dale Ellis

Thanks, Dale. I haven't even seen any existing drain tube to
extend or any place to connect a hose. Have looked from top and
bottom. Guess I'll have to climb up inside and look around so
more. Or maybe the drain tube is missing from mine? The manual
says something about putting a suitable container under the drain
to catch the runoff, but on mine it just dribbles off the frame
in 2-3 places.

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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:26:54 -0800
From: johny
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - PSD Fuel Fileter Drain

On the 99's and probably the 97, the drain tube comes down
on the passenger side of the block It's in line with
the fuel filter, and ends about where the oil pan and
block meet. On the 99, (4x4) if you look through the
wheel well it's just to the front of the shock tower.
Look for a stainless steel looking tube about


Gary & Nancy Brinck wrote:

> > I connect a clear hose to the drain tube and extend it into a plastic milk
> > bottle. ...Dale Ellis
>
> Thanks, Dale. I haven't even seen any existing drain tube to
> extend or any place to connect a hose. Have looked from top and
> bottom. Guess I'll have to climb up inside and look around so
> more. Or maybe the drain tube is missing from mine? The manual
> says something about putting a suitable container under the drain
> to catch the runoff, but on mine it just dribbles off the frame
> in 2-3 places.
>
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 12:37:25 -0700
From: Dale Ellis
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - PSD Fuel Fileter Drain

It's not easy to see, Gary. On my '97, it is at the front, right of the
engine. I have to find it looking up from under with a flashlight. I'd
say it is about 2 1/2 to 3 feet off the ground, and not easy to reach in
and around to install the drain hose.

I'll be out of town until Monday. If you haven't found it by then, let me
know and I'll crawl under and try to better identify exactly where to look.

Dale

At 2/3/99 08:51 AM, you wrote:
>> I connect a clear hose to the drain tube and extend it into a plastic milk
>> bottle. ...Dale Ellis
>
>Thanks, Dale. I haven't even seen any existing drain tube to
>extend or any place to connect a hose.

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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:51:49 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: FTE 97up - VIN Mystery Code

I called the 800 number for Ford Customer Care, just to see
what they could tell me about my F250 Super Duty, scheduled
for delivery Feb. 4th thru 11th. They couldn't tell me a much
but did mention a code associated with my VIN, that they had
no explanation on.

Here's the mystery code: TTGX993337, anyone have any ideas?
Obviously, my concern is that no HOLD has been placed on my
truck's delivery.

Thanks,

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:04:53 -0600
From: "Jack"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - VIN Mystery Code

This is the box car number that your truck is on. Which mean your truck is
in transit to the mixing center where it is loaded on trailers and then sent
to the dealership.

Its one the way.

Jack

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From: Charles Abraham
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 16:07
Subject: FTE 97up - VIN Mystery Code


>I called the 800 number for Ford Customer Care, just to see
>what they could tell me about my F250 Super Duty, scheduled
>for delivery Feb. 4th thru 11th. They couldn't tell me a much
>but did mention a code associated with my VIN, that they had
>no explanation on.
>
>Here's the mystery code: TTGX993337, anyone have any ideas?
>Obviously, my concern is that no HOLD has been placed on my
>truck's delivery.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Charles.
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 14:23:01 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - which gears for PSD?

I'd recommend the 3.73 ratio. You have much more power than your 350 ever
dreamed of having, and the power band of a diesel is at a much lower RPM so
it doesn't gain much by getting the 4.10's.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

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From: davesomers
To: '97up-list ford-trucks.com'
Date: Friday, January 29, 1999 9:16 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - which gears for PSD?


>Should I go with the 4.10 or 3.73.
>I'm getting the CrewCab DRW diesel 4x4 which will have 2000# permanent
>cargo, plus trailer 20% of time (2000# empty, 5000# full) and an occasional
>500# additional cargo. (I'm guessing this puts my truck around 10000#
>regularly)
>My '86 Chevy 350 (guessing 200hp, 300ftlbs) has 4.56 and a truck weight
>around 8500#, plus trailer etc. This seems to be geared down nicely (but
>boy does it eat gas when wound out on the highway)
>How does that compare to the PSD (235hp, 500ftlbs) with either gear choice.
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:15:01 -0700
From: William Rau
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 SuperDuty SERVICE MANUALS

Can anyone enlighten me about the price and availability for Service
Manual(s) for 1999 Ford SuperDuty Trucks?

The Ford dealer (in Oklahoma) where I'll be picking up my truck in a
couple of weeks provided me with the following
ph# (800)782-4356 for Heim Corporation. When I called them they told
me $200+ ... and as I inquired further I
learned that they were for the F150 not the F350 (SD). Then they told
me that the manuals for the SD's wouldn't be
available for a month or two and couldn't even give me a price?? But,
they said they had the CD for $170 (that's nice,
but what if I'm on the road... I don't have a laptop computer)!
The real kicker is the outrageously high price: I have bought service
manuals for all five new vehicles I've purchased
since 1982, and I've never paid over $45 for any of them!!!
When I searched on the Web... Heim appears to be the ONLY source for
these manuals.

Does anyone know anything about the price and availability of these
service manuals?? Is Heim the only
source??

I love them thar SourPokes,
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:17:00 -0700
From: William Rau
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Final Drive Ratio

Reply to: Final Drive Ratio

Here is a URL for a site that I found useful for computing differences
in tire sizes,
gear ratios... etc.
I have checked the accruracy of the computations (for tire size
differences: from
metric to
inches) and it is right on.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/tfts/calc.htm

I think many of you will find this of great value.

best regards,
Bill


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Number 024


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Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:08:21 -0700
From: "Don Lewoniuk"
Subject: FTE 97up - Final Drive Ratio

Wouldn't different tire circumferences on a 3.55:1 set up effectively
yield
different final drive ratios? A 235/70/16 tire measures out to 90.9in
in
circumference. A 265/70/17 measures out to 99.24 in circumference. The
axle
still ends up turning 3.55 times but..but..but....it's spreading out
the
power produced across a greater area thereby effectively reducing the
ratio?
I'm not sure how to interpret this or measure the effect. Like many I
want
to go to a larger tire when these 245 Goodyears bite it but really
don't
want to impact the towing ability. There was a post a while back that
someone calculated that a tire size increase reduced either a 3.73 or
a 3.55
ratio down to around 3.30 but I can't find it in the posts I've
saved. Does
anyone know how this works?

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Subject:
Re: 97up-list-digest V2 #24
Date:
Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:22:05 -0700
From:
William Rau
To:
97up-list ford-trucks.com
References:
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Reply to: Final Drive Ratio

Here is a URL for a site that I found useful for computing differences
in tire sizes,
gear ratios... etc.
I have checked the accruracy of the computations (for tire size
differences: from
metric to
inches) and it is right on.

http://www.ford-trucks.com/tfts/calc.htm

I think many of you will find this of great value.

best regards,
Bill


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97up-list-digest Friday, January 29 1999 Volume 02 :
Number 024


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Thu, 28 Jan 1999 10:08:21 -0700
From: "Don Lewoniuk"
Subject: FTE 97up - Final Drive Ratio

Wouldn't different tire circumferences on a 3.55:1 set up effectively
yield
different final drive ratios? A 235/70/16 tire measures out to 90.9in
in
circumference. A 265/70/17 measures out to 99.24 in circumference. The
axle
still ends up turning 3.55 times but..but..but....it's spreading out
the
power produced across a greater area thereby effectively reducing the
ratio?
I'm not sure how to interpret this or measure the effect. Like many I
want
to go to a larger tire when these 245 Goodyears bite it but really
don't
want to impact the towing ability. There was a post a while back that
someone calculated that a tire size increase reduced either a 3.73 or
a 3.55
ratio down to around 3.30 but I can't find it in the posts I've
saved. Does
anyone know how this works?

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:57:38 -0800
From: "Neil Plocek"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - VIN Mystery Code

According to the rail road, the rail car (TTGX993337) that your truck will
eventually be on is and has been sitting in Kansas at the dock since 1/24/99
and is empty at the time. When loaded, it's destination will be Birmingham
MO. I hope that is somewhere in your general area.

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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 16:58:59 -0800
From: johny
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 SuperDuty SERVICE MANUALS

Your first ford truck ? :-).

Your only other choice would be to wait for a Chiltons or Haynes manual.
In comparison, it will read, well, like a haynes or Chiltons manual. In some
cases that's sufficient.

The manuals for the 99 SD I got back in July ran me $140.00
+ $6.00 shipping. One covered the engine, and the other the Body.
There's a third for electrical and emissions for another $75.00.

The $200.00 quote may include the electrical/emissions book.
The folks that answer the phones for Helms, sometimes take a
bit of convincing, to go for the 2 book package.

Since you are getting a 99.5, that might explain the delay on the
manuals.

Do a search on "manuals" or "helms" on conference 2 or the 99 list and you'll
get some more info - http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.abol.com/users/jlester/


William Rau wrote:

> Can anyone enlighten me about the price and availability for Service
> Manual(s) for 1999 Ford SuperDuty Trucks?
>
> The Ford dealer (in Oklahoma) where I'll be picking up my truck in a
> couple of weeks provided me with the following
> ph# (800)782-4356 for Heim Corporation. When I called them they told
> me $200+ ... and as I inquired further I
> learned that they were for the F150 not the F350 (SD). Then they told
> me that the manuals for the SD's wouldn't be
> available for a month or two and couldn't even give me a price?? But,
> they said they had the CD for $170 (that's nice,
> but what if I'm on the road... I don't have a laptop computer)!
> The real kicker is the outrageously high price: I have bought service
> manuals for all five new vehicles I've purchased
> since 1982, and I've never paid over $45 for any of them!!!
> When I searched on the Web... Heim appears to be the ONLY source for
> these manuals.
>
> Does anyone know anything about the price and availability of these
> service manuals?? Is Heim the only
> source??
>
> I love them thar SourPokes,
> Bill
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 20:32:26 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: FTE 97up - Beware the Service WorkShop Manuals!

I have the '99 SuperDuty WorkShop Manual by Heim (covers F-250 / F-350 /
F-450 / F550 SuperDuties). You are correct, the prices are outrageous. In
fact, when I ordered my '99 F-350, I told my salesguy that I wanted the
Service manuals and when he found out what they cost he called me to ask me
if I was sure I wanted them! Then he said that they only have Volume-1 in
stock, so he ordered it for me ($125 or so, I forget exact amount). The
worst thing is that the manuals are very cryptic, do not have good
illustrations, are very poorly written, are horribly indexed, and are
overall just not worth the price. I have only really been able to use the
manual when I needed to check on the torque for an oil-line flange bolt I
was tightening, but that is about it. Even the VIN # "Code Breaker" section
in the beginning of Volume-1 had errors, did not include a VIN-letter
designation and was not up-to-date.

Typical example of language is found on Page 412-01-4, discussing removal of
the radio, so you can get to the center (and left-hand air registers)

1. "Disconnect Battery Ground Cable".

2. "Use radio removing tool to remove radio chassis."

That's it!!! The illustration only shows a picture of a radio with an arrow
pointing to it and the radio removing tool looks like two "U" bolts.

In addition to the sparse instructions, the manual is absolutely littered on
almost every other page with the same warnings in super bold type, for
example (page 100-02-2):

"WARNING: DO NOT RUN ENGINE WHEN JACKING THE VEHICLE. THE WHEELS
CONTACTING THE GROUND COULD CAUSE THE VEHICLE TO MOVE."

...duh...

That would be OK if it was listed in a safety section, but instead it is
listed countless times (along with many other inane warnings) throughout the
manual!!

Anyway, I always have purchased the WorkShop Manuals for my vehicles ('98
Expy, '98 Explorer, and earlier vehicles) and the quality seem to keep going
down while the prices keep going up.


Keith


PS. Yes, some parts of the workshop Manual do seem adequate; but then
again, isn't that expected when you are paying $125 from a sole-source
provider commissioned by the manufacturer??








- -----Original Message-----
From: William Rau
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 7:21 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 SuperDuty SERVICE MANUALS


>Can anyone enlighten me about the price and availability for Service
>Manual(s) for 1999 Ford SuperDuty Trucks?
>
>The Ford dealer (in Oklahoma) where I'll be picking up my truck in a
>couple of weeks provided me with the following
>ph# (800)782-4356 for Heim Corporation. When I called them they told
>me $200+ ... and as I inquired further I
>learned that they were for the F150 not the F350 (SD). Then they told
>me that the manuals for the SD's wouldn't be
>available for a month or two and couldn't even give me a price?? But,
>they said they had the CD for $170 (that's nice,
>but what if I'm on the road... I don't have a laptop computer)!
>The real kicker is the outrageously high price: I have bought service
>manuals for all five new vehicles I've purchased
>since 1982, and I've never paid over $45 for any of them!!!
>When I searched on the Web... Heim appears to be the ONLY source for
>these manuals.
>
>Does anyone know anything about the price and availability of these
>service manuals?? Is Heim the only
>source??
>
>I love them thar SourPokes,
>Bill
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Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:33:13 -0800
From: "Michael D. Sheridan"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 SuperDuty SERVICE MANUALS

William Rau wrote:
>
> Can anyone enlighten me about the price and availability for Service
> Manual(s) for 1999 Ford SuperDuty Trucks?
>
> The Ford dealer (in Oklahoma) where I'll be picking up my truck in a
> couple of weeks provided me with the following
> ph# (800)782-4356 for Heim Corporation. When I called them they told
> me $200+ ... and as I inquired further I
> learned that they were for the F150 not the F350 (SD). Then they told
> me that the manuals for the SD's wouldn't be
> available for a month or two and couldn't even give me a price?? But,
> they said they had the CD for $170 (that's nice,
> but what if I'm on the road... I don't have a laptop computer)!
> The real kicker is the outrageously high price: I have bought service
> manuals for all five new vehicles I've purchased
> since 1982, and I've never paid over $45 for any of them!!!
> When I searched on the Web... Heim appears to be the ONLY source for
> these manuals.
>
> Does anyone know anything about the price and availability of these
> service manuals?? Is Heim the only
> source??
>
> I love them thar SourPokes,
> Bill


Hi Bill:

I ordered a workshop manual directly through the dealer that sold me
my 1999 Mazda B2500 for $149.95 BUT with NO binder and it's a pile
of pages just about 3 1/2 inches thick!

After making several calls I was finally able to get a binder
from Mazda for $25. Hope it's the right one as I haven't seen it
yet.

They make two manuals for my truck. One is like I got and the
other is bound but is $10 more and is reported to have less
information in it.

In a few months ALLDATA and HAYNES will have manuals at a reasonable
price I have been told which are paper and/or CD.

BTW, the best luck I had through the ordeal was by calling the Mazda
customer service 800 number.

Mazda/Ford, same difference, I guess.

Michael
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 19:00:06 -0800
From: "Harald Stenger"
Subject: FTE 97up - Super Duty tires

Here's what my Super Duty Ford is going to look like with those new, larger
tires I have on order :)

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://monstermania.com/features/98vac.htm

Harald

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:13:34 -0600
From: "Randy Collins"
Subject: FTE 97up - Ranger question

I asked this on the small list digest, but had no response. I have a 98
ranger 4x4 with the off road package and 410 gears.

When I put the truck in gear, I hear a "clank". Not always, but often, and
mainly in reverse. Since the truck was new, the rear springs wrap up real
bad at take-off. My question is this: is this "clank" related to the spring
wrap? Is this ok (or common) on these vehicles since they have a slight
lift? The dealer says it is. The foreman says there are no TSB's on the
subject and I shouldn't worry.

A co-worker of mine has nearly the exact same truck and does not have this
problem. Any advice/recommendation is appreciated.

ran

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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 22:27:47 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Ranger question

In a message dated 99-02-03 22:24:34 EST, you write:


auto or man., did you check U joint? or maybe something else in the
driveline...Pinion, backlash is out , bearing is shot...how many miles on
truck?

RS
Ross Smith Racing Inc.

I asked this on the small list digest, but had no response. I have a 98
ranger 4x4 with the off road package and 410 gears.

When I put the truck in gear, I hear a "clank". Not always, but often, and
mainly in reverse. Since the truck was new, the rear springs wrap up real
bad at take-off. My question is this: is this "clank" related to the spring
wrap? Is this ok (or common) on these vehicles since they have a slight
lift? The dealer says it is. The foreman says there are no TSB's on the
subject and I shouldn't worry.

A co-worker of mine has nearly the exact same truck and does not have this
problem. Any advice/recommendation is appreciated.

ran
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:32:38 -0600
From: "Jack"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - VIN Mystery Code

If you used the Union Pacific tracking system it will normally say that it
is unloaded sitting in MO. However, if the rail car is being pulled by
another carrier's engines you won't be able to see exactly where the rail
car is unless you use netredi tracking.

I learned this after seeing my railcar sit in MO for a month when actually
my truck was sitting in New Orleans already transported and unloaded.

Anyway the best news is that its built and ready for its owner.

Jack
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From: Neil Plocek
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - VIN Mystery Code


>According to the rail road, the rail car (TTGX993337) that your truck will
>eventually be on is and has been sitting in Kansas at the dock since
1/24/99
>and is empty at the time. When loaded, it's destination will be Birmingham
>MO. I hope that is somewhere in your general area.
>
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Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 21:36:59 -0600
From: "Jack"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - VIN Mystery Code w/ tracking info

I took the liberty of tracking this on netRedi for you. This is what I
found:

"TTGX 993337 CHICAGO IL 02 03 0028 L Placed Actual
CHICAGO MIX CT IL NS"

Which means on 2/3/98 at 12:28am it was loaded and in Chicago, IL. It is
being pulled by Illonois Central Railroad

Good Luck

Jack


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From: Neil Plocek
To:
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 1999 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - VIN Mystery Code


>According to the rail road, the rail car (TTGX993337) that your truck will
....


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