97up-list-digest Monday, February 1 1999 Volume 02 : Number 027



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Defective Torsion Bars
FTE 97up - ADMIN: Web site updates
FTE 97up - leaf spring lift and hitch receiver covers
FTE 97up - anyone have a inside track on excursion?
FTE 97up - Expedition vs Explorer

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 10:00:13 EST
From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Defective Torsion Bars

Friend of mine had an interesting experience last week. Came into his
driveway and saw that his 97 supercab 4WD ( 21,000 mi) was sitting with the
front end down on the left side. No not a flat, just down. By the time the
dealers tow truck showed up the next day it was down on both sides in the
front. With the skid plate, little was able to be seen but when it was put on
the rollback it was obvious, Torsion bar on the left side had snapped near the
crossmember.

Dealer claimed this was the first he had heard about this ever happening.
Truck was still under warranty so both sides were replaced and all is well
BUT.

He noticed in the final paperwork that there appeared to be a shop bulletin
related to this problem for 150's, 250's Expeditions and Navigators, 1997 and
1998. Interestingly, the dealer refused to discuss the problem beyond saying
it was a broken torsion bar (not even if it was one or 2) and fixed under
warranty.

A Check of the NHTSA site shows no bulletin but 1 customer complaint in Feb of
1998 for the same problem.

While this one failed in his driveway sitting still, he is concerned. He
frequently takes the vehicle off road in a remote area of Western Virginia
where cell phones don't work and this is failure he doesn't want repeated.

Anyone else out there familiar with this problem, the cause and what triggers
it?

John G
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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 15:36:03 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Web site updates

FTE Web site updates:

- - Several new trucks added to the pictorial (over 370 trucks
now featured)

- - Links updated

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 13:26:56 PST
From: "Jordan Rautiola"
Subject: FTE 97up - leaf spring lift and hitch receiver covers

I have a '99 F150 4x4 SC LB and was wondering if my local spring shop
could lift the truck, say 3-4 inches, by re-arching the springs. What
about the front? I have 285/75 Dunlops and I think a bit of a lift
would really set it off. Second item, I would like to buy a small
quantity (say 20) of the "IHBA" drag boat receiver covers for members in
our boat club. Who could give us a good deal on these in quantity?




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Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:56:43 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - anyone have a inside track on excursion?

I am asking because my dad likes my F250SD powerstroke Xlt so much, so i
though maybe someone might know when we might know something on when
production may begin?

thanks
Ross Smith
RSR/Ross Smith Racing Inc.
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Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 11:26:14 +1000
From: Eddie & Clare Cruz
Subject: FTE 97up - Expedition vs Explorer

To Todd W on his inquiry regarding the interior specs for Expedition vs
Explorer:

I had the same question in 98 since I have 3 kids. My reccomendation is
to not rely on the actual specifications. The ultimate test is to go to
your local Ford dealer and put the two side by side and do the
comparison. Just by the facts, I chose the Explorer. But after a side by
side comparison, I chose the Expedition. The Explorer feels a little
cramped with two car seats and a 13 year old kid. The Expedition feels
more roomier plus it can be had with a decent 3rd seat.

In your case, I would make a few reccomendations. First , buy the
Expedition. do not skimp on comfort options. The rear air is a must with
regular rear seat occupants. Buy a protective seat cover and floor
covering to contain spills which may occur. The seat cover will save
from wear marks from the car seat which will constantly rub against the
seat upholstery. I bought Wet Okoles and Husky Liners. both are durable
and can be bought on the web. The Expedition's safety advantage is its
size. Because it is built more like your truck, surviving a serious
accident without a scratch is more likely to happen in the
Expedition.The difference in the price is worth the safety of your
family. Also mileage is not that far off considering the other
advantages.

In my case, I bought the Eddie Bauer 4x4 Expedition. Even with a limited
income and a tight budget, I consider my money well spent. Good Luck!

Eddie Cruz

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