97up-list-digest Monday, June 14 1999 Volume 02 : Number 159



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.
Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.
Re: FTE 97up - Opinions Please...
FTE 97up - Re: Diesel Fuel Fill
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Diesel Fuel Fill
Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.
RE: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.
FTE 97up - CB Question
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Diesel Fuel Fill
FTE 97up - 3.73 Limited Slip in California?

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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 04:36:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Douglas R. Floyd"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.

>
> check out http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bfgoodrichtire.com , especially the mud/all terrain,
> they should have something a little bigger but that will fit on your rim, I
> have a 99 ranger that they can put those tires on, (stock firestone
> wilderness ht 225/70r15 suck the bfg are 235/75 15 and will fit on my rim :)
> glad I got the sport package. only thing about those tires is the price is
> pretty high, on my truck I was quoted between $125 per tire to $150.
>
> /matt, kc8kzi
> /99 Ranger XL Sport, 2.5l, 5spd, soon to have 6 300w flood lights (for red
> cross disaster work) and a mobile repeater
> /98 GT LTS3000, 3" travel front, 5" travel rear, setup for downhill.

Goodyear used to make a rain tire (with a groove going down the center)
that was excellent when I had my mini truck. I wonder if they make those
for full size trucks, because the tire meant the difference between stopping,
and having your truck turn into a waterski.
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 06:06:54 CDT
From: Robert Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.

Check your axle code on the sticker in the driver's door. 18 is a 3.08:1
open rear end, 19 is a 3.55:1 open rear end, H9 is a 3.55:1 limited slip
rear end (there is also a 3.31:1 and a 3.73:1 ratio but I don't know those
codes).


>From: Gene Ball
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.
>Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:10:59 -0700
>
>Do you have limited slip?
>There is a tag on the diff cover with L.S. on it if it does?
>If not check into some type of a locker!
>If you go with a taller tire you give up torque,
>and thats the last thing I want to give up!!
>A locker will help apply what torque you have to the ground,
>by locking both rear wheels !
>Good luck!
>Gene
>RSnovi aol.com wrote:
>
> > well jsut got back from towing my buddys ski boat and it was wet out. i
>have
> > determined the spinning up hills and at stop lights with the torque of
>PSD
> > needs some more tire on ground.
> > I have F250PSD 4x4 SC 142wb, i think i have 265/75/16s firestones, what
>you
> > guys recommend for same rim, more tire?
> >
> > TIA
> > Rosco
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 06:11:06 CDT
From: Robert Brown
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Opinions Please...

Both are good engines, but I'm curious, are both of these trucks super cabs?


>From: Jeff Williams
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE 97up - Opinions Please...
>Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 01:55:14 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Okay, I'm currently shopping for a '97 F150 and have found two that I like.
>Hopefully someone can give an opinion to help me figure out which one is
>better. I like both but can't decide.
>I'll only specify the differences... (that is, the major ones that I can
>see)
>
>Truck #1:
>
>5.4L V8
>Black/tan two-tone color
>tan leather
>small rip (about 2-3 inches) in driver's leather seat
>needs new tires
>only a cassette player
>bench seats
>62000 miles
>$17900
>
>Truck #2:
>4.6L V8
>Green/Grey two-tone color
>grey leather
>no rips in seats
>good tires
>cassette and cd changer
>bucket seats
>sliding back window
>when brakes are pressed, a pumping action is felt...
>(possibly just rotors)
>matching Safari tunnel cover for bed
>54000 miles
>$19100
>
>I think that's it... Both are Lariat...
>The problem I have is that Truck #1 has the bigger engine and is $1200
>cheaper. It does have some things that would need fixed. (rip in seat,
>tires) What I'm wondering is how do the two engines rate. I don't plan on
>towing anything large but I am here in Montana in the middle of mountains.
>Is the 4.6L a decent engine or is a "gutless wonder". Thanks in advance
>for
>any opinions!
>
>Jeff Williams
>
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 09:20:20 EDT
From: JDavis1277 aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Diesel Fuel Fill

Dave,

Recommend you check with your Ford dealer on getting F-450 or up fuel fill
receivers.

In years past, the old Super Duty trucks without boxes came with a real "big
truck" fuel fill opening.

Otherwise, you can order a kit from any of the fuel tank outfits like
Transfer Flow advertising in Trailer Life magazine. But, I believe they just
buy them from Ford per the previous paragraph.

Good luck,

Butch
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 09:49:57 EDT
From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Diesel Fuel Fill

This is sort of an open question. Why are there two diesel fuel filler
sizes? Initially I thought it might be an on-road vs off road fuel tax
issue, but tha doesn't make sense. Does anyone have a clue as to the logic
on this?

John G.
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 10:02:47 EDT
From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.

Goodyear does make a version of those tires for larger trucks. Friend of
mine has them on his 97 150 in an "all purpose" tread. If I remember it has
two grooves.the concept is a good one.

My wife wound up giving the Goodyear dealer a near heart attack (I wasn't far
behind) when she slapped 4 of them on a 79 Buick Lesabre she got from her Mom
a couple of years ago. Realize the car only had 17,000 actual miles on it.
They are one fine tire though in the wet and they have worn quite well.

John G
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 11:42:17 -0500
From: "David Moore [Dmoore Dmoore.com]"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.

On my 1999 F250SD 156WB I have a door code of C1 and I purchased a 3.73
Limited Slip.

David

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Sent: Sunday, June 13, 1999 6:07 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.


Check your axle code on the sticker in the driver's door. 18 is a 3.08:1
open rear end, 19 is a 3.55:1 open rear end, H9 is a 3.55:1 limited slip
rear end (there is also a 3.31:1 and a 3.73:1 ratio but I don't know those
codes).


>From: Gene Ball
>Reply-To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: Re: FTE 97up - need more meat on ground.
>Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 21:10:59 -0700
>
>Do you have limited slip?
>There is a tag on the diff cover with L.S. on it if it does?
>If not check into some type of a locker!
>If you go with a taller tire you give up torque,
>and thats the last thing I want to give up!!
>A locker will help apply what torque you have to the ground,
>by locking both rear wheels !
>Good luck!
>Gene
>RSnovi aol.com wrote:
>
> > well jsut got back from towing my buddys ski boat and it was wet out. i
>have
> > determined the spinning up hills and at stop lights with the torque of
>PSD
> > needs some more tire on ground.
> > I have F250PSD 4x4 SC 142wb, i think i have 265/75/16s firestones, what
>you
> > guys recommend for same rim, more tire?
> >
> > TIA
> > Rosco
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>
>
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 13:56:15 -0700
From: "Larry Drum"
Subject: FTE 97up - CB Question

Hey All,

I have a problem with my CB that maybe other CB Users can answer. I
installed the unit down under the A/C controls to the left of the Stick
Shift (5 SPD). Whenever I key the MIC, I get the ever horrible "Feedback
Squeal." I wired the power to the Fuse panel through a Tap. The unit
itself works and receives fine, it's just that darn Feedback... Any help or
suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance....

Larry Drum
Captain, CHP Explorer Post #834
Needles Area
Webmaster - www.chpexplorer.org

'99 F-150 XL, Bright Red, 2WD, 4.2 V-6, 5 Spd. 3.55 LS, BugFlector II, Vent
Visors, Rhino Lining Bed Liner. Maxon 40 Channel W/10 Channel Weather CB.
Maxon "Through the Glass" CB Antenna (Awesome Performance) W/Weather Band.
(Lowering Kit Coming Soon :o).

Sound System :o) -

Alpine In Dish 6 Disk Changer/Receiver Head Unit (Alpine Model # MDA-W890).
4 Infinity Kappa Series 5 X 7 Door and Rear Panel Speakers. 2 Cerwin Vega
Stealth Series 12" Sub Woofers in a Custom Enclosure Behind the Seat
(Regular Cab). 1 - Sherwood 250 Watt x 4 Channel Amplifier Bridged to 500
Watts X 2 Channels Pushing the Subs, 1 - Pioneer 75 Watt X 4 Channel
Amplifier Pushing the Infinitiy's. All Cable and Wiring by Monster Cable.
Power Distribution Blocks by Monster Cable.


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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 18:54:46 -0700
From: The Hepburn
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Diesel Fuel Fill

CERESJohnG aol.com wrote:
>
> This is sort of an open question. Why are there two diesel fuel filler
> sizes? Initially I thought it might be an on-road vs off road fuel tax
> issue, but tha doesn't make sense. Does anyone have a clue as to the logic
> on this?
>
The stanard nozzle you find a a typical gas station is designed to be used
with the standard consumer-type pumps, which operate at 6 gallons per
minute flow rate. Truck stops, on the other hand, have pumps that flow
at a rate of 26 gallons per minute, so they need a larger nozzle to handle
the higher flow rate.

Someone earlier mentioned using an F450 filler - my F450 has a filler that
is the same size as the "car" pump nozzles. Maybe Ford has a larger filler
available as an option, but it's definitely not standard.

Alan Hepburn
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Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 22:33:30 -0700
From: Dave Santo
Subject: FTE 97up - 3.73 Limited Slip in California?

I've ordered a Y2K F-250 SD/SC V-10 2WD LB SRW. When the dealer plugged in the
3.73 "limited slip" option it came back as a 4.30 limited slip. Because this
will be a California vehicle, and because of air standards/emission standards
here, you can not get (apparently) a 3.73 limited slip (with a V-10?). On a
dealers lot in Riverside (Fritts Ford), I saw a vehicle sticker on an F-250 SD
that had listed a 3.73 limited slip! I forgot to look at the engine size. Does
anybody know what gives? I have a 1998 Lincoln Navigator (5.4L) and the sticker
for it shows a 3.73 limited slip!!! I believe that you CAN get a 3.73 LS with
the 5.4L V-8 but not with the 6.8L V-10. Any info would be appreciated. [I
guess {engine} size DOES matter!] TIA....


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