97up-list-digest Wednesday, May 19 1999 Volume 02 : Number 132



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Reasonable price for Super Duty
FTE 97up - Rear window removal
RE: FTE 97up - Rear window removal
Re: FTE 97up - Reasonable price for Super Duty
Re: FTE 97up - Reasonable price for Super Duty
Re: FTE 97up - Grammar, was Reasonable price for Super Duty
FTE 97up - interesting trip to tag agency....

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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:12:28 -0500
From: "Kenneth L. Collier Jr."
Subject: FTE 97up - Reasonable price for Super Duty

Hello All,

I've been a member of this list for quite some time however, I do not
own a Ford truck. Hopefully this will change in a few months. I plan
on buying a 2000 model 4x4 F250SD SC PSD. I was wondering if you all
(yall were I'm from) could tell me what a reasonable price above invoice
is for a Super-Duty. I know the factors that govern this can vary, but
I just wanted to get a rough idea. Any insight would be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks In Advance,
Lee

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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:18:37 -0500
From: "Mike Fairleigh"
Subject: FTE 97up - Rear window removal

I took my '98 F-150 SC through the car wash today, and noticed a leak - a
fast drip dripping off the rear edge of the headliner. It must have just
started, because in the year and a half since I bought the truck new, I've
checked frequently for leaks and found none.

I've got the sliding rear window, but the leak is coming in higher and to
the side of that, so I don't think the slider has anything to do with it. I
suspect the seal between the truck body and the window unit itself. Does
anyone know what's involved in removing the whole window? I don't plan to
do it myself, but I'd like to know so I can be prepared to check for damage
my dealer does when repairing it. Thanks.

Mike Fairleigh
mikef sky.net
...Always remembering our veterans.



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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 19:35:11 -0500
From: "David Moore"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Rear window removal

There really isn't much to it. I got mine out (to replace with a power
sliding rear window) in about 20 minutes having never done it before. You
simply get some putty knives below the external gasket then grab the edge
and then it will pull out. Getting it back in after you've removed the
entire gasket is a bit trickier than that though.

David

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[mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Mike Fairleigh
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 7:19 PM
To: 97 & Up Ford Trucks Mailing List
Subject: FTE 97up - Rear window removal


I took my '98 F-150 SC through the car wash today, and noticed a leak - a
fast drip dripping off the rear edge of the headliner. It must have just
started, because in the year and a half since I bought the truck new, I've
checked frequently for leaks and found none.

I've got the sliding rear window, but the leak is coming in higher and to
the side of that, so I don't think the slider has anything to do with it. I
suspect the seal between the truck body and the window unit itself. Does
anyone know what's involved in removing the whole window? I don't plan to
do it myself, but I'd like to know so I can be prepared to check for damage
my dealer does when repairing it. Thanks.

Mike Fairleigh
mikef sky.net
...Always remembering our veterans.



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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 17:50:30 -0700
From: johny
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Reasonable price for Super Duty

When I got my 99 F350 SD back last july, it cost me $800 over invoice.
$500 over was the best price, but it wasn't my favorite dealership.

Being a diesel, I decided to pay more attention to the mechanics at the
dealership
too. So far I've been happy. Find some local diesel heads in your area and
ask. They'll know. The dealership I ended up with is reported to have
good diesel mechanics as well as regular mechanics.

The truck dealeships usually have excellent diesel mechanics, but are not
always the best when it comes to other parts of the vehicle.

During that time frame, deals were running from $99 *under* invoice to
about $1200 over. Many were in the $300 - $500 range.
Ordering helps a lot in obtaining this price, but by all means is not
mandatory.

You're probably aware, but services like
www.kbb.com or www.edmunds.com has prices as well as
car buying tips.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://autobytel.com can help you purchace in the event you not comfortable
with the process yourself.

If you are new to diesels, then you owe yorself a trip here:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ford -diesel. com

Kenneth L. Collier Jr. wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I've been a member of this list for quite some time however, I do not
> own a Ford truck. Hopefully this will change in a few months. I plan
> on buying a 2000 model 4x4 F250SD SC PSD. I was wondering if you all
> (yall were I'm from) could tell me what a reasonable price above invoice
> is for a Super-Duty. I know the factors that govern this can vary, but
> I just wanted to get a rough idea. Any insight would be greatly
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks In Advance,
> Lee
>
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:26:01 -0500
From: "Mike Fairleigh"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Reasonable price for Super Duty

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth L. Collier Jr.
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 7:20 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Reasonable price for Super Duty


I was wondering if you all
>(yall were I'm from)

Actually, I thought it was "yall" for an audience of one, and "all yall" for
more than one 8~).

Mike Fairleigh
mikef sky.net
...Always remembering our veterans.



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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:35:30 EDT
From: RAMWORKER aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Grammar, was Reasonable price for Super Duty

In a message dated 5/18/99 8:25:44 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mikef sky.net
writes:

> I was wondering if you all
> >(yall were I'm from)
>
> Actually, I thought it was "yall" for an audience of one, and "all yall"
for
> more than one 8~).

All right now, let's keep our grammar straight! :)

It's "y'all" and "all y'all" ;-)

You'll find all of these references in your dictionary, right after "ain't"

I'm so sorry, after today's mini flame war, I couldn't resist!

Best Regards,
Robert
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:41:05 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - interesting trip to tag agency....

Last week while i was renewing my tag, i was informed i am now a Commercial
truck, because i moved from a F150/ 5.0/ 4x4 that said it was 3800 on
registration (really was almost 5K) to a F250 4x4 PSD says its 6061, going
to weigh it soon to see what the real weight is,lol.
I now went from a May expiretion to Dec., due to the fact it was over 5K
truck, by FL laws. I was never informed of this from my dealer when i bought
it, they just charged me the upcharge for more weight and SHOULD have told or
gotten me a DEC. sticker from what the tag agency informed me of. Maybe
this is how they are getting away with No CAT conversion on 99.5s also.
Mine does have the 99.5 update, turbo does spool better around 1500, gives a
noticeable turbo sound, Grrrrrrr! Easy install in about 1 hr with breaker
bar and had to trim off about 3in and a small tab on pipe, from Nathan B.
part no. for the xcab he was nice enough to provide.


RS

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