97up-list-digest Sunday, May 16 1999 Volume 02 : Number 128



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - Lowering a new truck?
Re: FTE 97up - no light prairie tan clearcoat metallic for '00 forwarded for zman
FTE 97up - Factory Dent
Re: FTE 97up - Lowering a new truck?
FTE 97up - Shocking revelation
Re: FTE 97up - Factory Dent
Re: FTE 97up - Factory Dent
Re: FTE 97up - 4L SOHC and 5L V8
FTE 97up - 199 F-150 SC cab steps wanted
FTE 97up - KINKED TRANS COOLER LINE
Re: FTE 97up - no light prairie tan clearcoat metallic for '00 forwarded for zman
Re: FTE 97up - no light prairie tan clearcoat metallic for '00 forwarded for ...
Re: FTE 97up - Shocking revelation
Re: FTE 97up - no light prairie tan clearcoat metallic for '00 forwarded for ...

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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 08:16:33 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Lowering a new truck?

Ford won't pay for the aftermarket lowering of the truck. They will pay to
put the 2wd rear suspension on the truck. That does lower height at the
door quite a bit. It leaves the truck looking like its going slightly "up
hill" though. Aftermarket makes kits that would make lowering the truck
easy and should't void warranty (use a quality aftermarket kit though),
however, Ford probably won't let you claim this under mobility motoring.

Nathan Bernard

- ----- Original Message -----
From: C. K. Hartline
To:
Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Lowering a new truck?


> Called the number, they referred me back to the dealer, who said 'factory
> rep' says no way, as does the dealer since altering the vehicle from
factory
> settings would void the Ford warranty on the vehicle. Ho hum...guess I'm
> gonna keep looking. The dealer does have a Superduty V-10 4x4 Crew Cab
with
> everything I want but the leather, and fog lamps, and he said he could
> definitely get those added without a problem
void
> the warranty? strange!>. Guess I need to go out and look at it.
>
> Thanks again Frank,
> and everyone here on the list,
> C.K.
>
>
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 08:18:17 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - no light prairie tan clearcoat metallic for '00 forwarded for zman

Most people prefer the Parchment interior (Grand Marquis had it this year)
to the tan. It is simmilar but is a couple of shades darker so it has a
less orange tint. I think when you see it you'll like it.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, INc.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Srb
To:
Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 5:40 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - no light prairie tan clearcoat metallic for '00
forwarded for zman


> forwarded for zman
>
> >Can somebody tell me why ford decided to c*ncel this color for '00. That
> >was the only color I really liked! I owned a black truck before and that
> >was one of the worst mistakes I made. Could not keep the thing clean or
> >scratch free to save my BUTT! Is there anybody at ford who would care to
> >read my complaint about canceling this color? Do they have an email
> >address or do I have to send it snail mail.
> >
> >
> >upset
> >joe
> >
>
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:41:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Becks2
Subject: FTE 97up - Factory Dent

Hey,


I got a 99 F-350,Crew Cab, Duallie, and there is a dent on the drivers side front panel. It is about on top of the F-350 logo were it meets the hood. It has been there ever since I picked it up from the dealer the day it got there. The built date is December 98. They told me it was a factory dent,,,is this true???? Does anybody else have this...


Thanks alot,

Becks2


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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 12:50:50 -0500
From: "C. K. Hartline"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Lowering a new truck?

NOW SEE!! Thats what I really like about you Nathan, and everyone else on
this list, not one person up here has mentioned any
of those things at all! And I would be willing to pay for those things on
my own if they weren't covered under Mobility Motoring, of course the
electric steps I would still need would be covered and would also qualify me
for the extended financing through Ford Credit. As far as the quality of
the aftermarket stuff goes, I don't want cheap on a new vehicle anyway. The
truck is being purchased as a forever/or until someone hits it, truck, so I
don't want something cheap I'll have to contend with down the road. Thank
you so much for your help. Who knows if I keep running into dead ends up
here, I may still have to make a few trips up to Iowa and say hello...

Thanks again good sir,
C.K.

PS I missed the thread for about two days when my ISP changed out their
server, have you mentioned anything about the changes in the F-250's
for next year? I've seen the mention of the F-350's with one
stating something to the effect that other than the Lariat LE
offered on the DRW 350?> the changes are the same as the 250 >which led me
to believe I might have missed the big message I was waiting for
gone back to the archives but haven't found anything on the 250 for 2000,
hence my wondering if you've mentioned it all yet.

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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 15:16:55 -0700
From: Craig Bonner
Subject: FTE 97up - Shocking revelation

Brent stated he was getting shocked each time he gets out of his car. I
too experience the same sensation when I exit most cars. It is your (an
mine) fault. Somehow we are building up static electricity in the car,
just like we would if we drag our feet on the carpet. Then we get out
and when we touch the car zappo! An uncle told me to hold onto the
door, before getting out of the car and continue to hold the door until
I was completely out of the car. It worked! The problem, is that this
is not the way I have done things for most of my life, so I almost never
remember to do it. My solution... When I get out, I allways touch the
door with my shoe first, don't feel the shock :o)
Hope it helps - Craig

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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:54:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: ashok bala
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Factory Dent

I think mine also has a dent like this - i was wondering what it was..
I also have a 99 f350 lariat (dually crew cab)

- --- Becks2 wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
>
> I got a 99 F-350,Crew Cab, Duallie, and there is a
> dent on the drivers side front panel. It is about on
> top of the F-350 logo were it meets the hood. It has
> been there ever since I picked it up from the dealer
> the day it got there. The built date is December 98.
> They told me it was a factory dent,,,is this
> true???? Does anybody else have this...
>
>
> Thanks alot,
>
> Becks2
>
>
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>
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:54:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: ashok bala
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Factory Dent

I think mine also has a dent like this - i was wondering what it was..
I also have a 99 f350 lariat (dually crew cab)

- --- Becks2 wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
>
> I got a 99 F-350,Crew Cab, Duallie, and there is a
> dent on the drivers side front panel. It is about on
> top of the F-350 logo were it meets the hood. It has
> been there ever since I picked it up from the dealer
> the day it got there. The built date is December 98.
> They told me it was a factory dent,,,is this
> true???? Does anybody else have this...
>
>
> Thanks alot,
>
> Becks2
>
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.go.com
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:59:39 EDT
From: CERESJohnG aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 4L SOHC and 5L V8

I think I read your post right and I believe you have the ratio effect
backwards. A 3.73 rear end ratio would be considered an economy option
compared to a 4.10. Remember, these numbers are compared to 1. ie. 3.73 to 1
and 4.10 to 1. So, the higher numeric ratio number will give you more turns
of the engine for the same distance down the road, everything else being the
same.

John G
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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 22:11:53 -0400
From: Lou Mallia
Subject: FTE 97up - 199 F-150 SC cab steps wanted

I'm looking to buy a used pair of 1999 F-150 cab steps (charcoal
plastic) in decent shape. Not interested in any aftermarket parts that
require drilling - I want to use the existing mounting holes in the
truck, and I like the looks of the gray steps - I should have ordered
them from the factory I guess, but didn't think I'd need them - I didn't
realize the truck (4x4) would be so tall!

I live in Raleigh NC.

Thanks,
Lou

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Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 21:40:46 -0700
From: "Neil Plocek"
Subject: FTE 97up - KINKED TRANS COOLER LINE

I was giving my 99 SD it's first oil change today and doing a pre-vacation
check over and I happened upon a kinked transmission cooler hose. One of
the hoses that connects to the tubing at the bottom of the radiator was way
to long and was pinched shut like and old garden hose. I felt of the tubing
and hoses and they were cold, and I had just rolled into the garage after a
25 mile run. I cut two inches off of the end of the hose and turned the
kink into a gradual sweeping curve. As soon as I started the engine, the
hoses and tubes warmed up. Fortunately I only have 2000 miles on the truck
(took delivery 10-21-98) and have not done any towing or hard driving, so I
would assume no harm done.

If any of you have a 99 SD CC 2x4 with the 5.4L and auto trans, you might
want to check near the lower right corner (passenger side) of the radiator
and see if your cooler hoses are ok.

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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 01:14:29 -0400
From: zman
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - no light prairie tan clearcoat metallic for '00 forwarded for zman

Nathan,

I want to start by saying you are a great resource and I hope you keep reading
our posts and giving us the answers.

Thanks for replying to this msg. After rereading it I realized it was a little
vague. I was POed about ford canceling the exterior color of "prairie tan" and
replacing it with "harvest gold." I have seen harvest gold on the f150s and I
don't really like it. Looks like it is red or silver for me.
I guess I will just use the complaint address ford gives on the home page for
owners. Actually I am an owner, I have a '66 f100, so I guess writing a letter
to them bitch'n about canceling a color wouldn't be too far fetched.


thanks
joe

Union Auto wrote:

> Most people prefer the Parchment interior (Grand Marquis had it this year)
> to the tan. It is simmilar but is a couple of shades darker so it has a
> less orange tint. I think when you see it you'll like it.
>
> Nathan Bernard
> Union Auto, INc.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Keith Srb
> To:
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 5:40 PM
> Subject: FTE 97up - no light prairie tan clearcoat metallic for '00
> forwarded for zman
>
> > forwarded for zman
> >
> > >Can somebody tell me why ford decided to c*ncel this color for '00. That
> > >was the only color I really liked! I owned a black truck before and that
> > >was one of the worst mistakes I made. Could not keep the thing clean or
> > >scratch free to save my BUTT! Is there anybody at ford who would care to
> > >read my complaint about canceling this color? Do they have an email
> > >address or do I have to send it snail mail.
> > >
> > >
> > >upset
> > >joe
> > >
> >
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 03:11:44 EDT
From: Logerman aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - no light prairie tan clearcoat metallic for '00 forwarded for ...

Maybe you ought to buy more of the color you like. Dont just look.
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 03:16:25 EDT
From: Ulyken aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Shocking revelation

As a 97 F150 owner, I have found that regular laundry anti-static that come
in a spray can, if used on the seats and flour of your vehicle will stop the
shocking revelation. ( may not smell like roses, but it works) try it.
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Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 04:12:14 EDT
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - no light prairie tan clearcoat metallic for '00 forwarded for ...

In a message dated 5/16/99 1:25:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jzysek one.net
writes:


no joke i love my prairie tan F250SD 4X4 PSD/SC, harvest gold is for
sissys

RS

'00 forwarded for zman
Date:5/16/99 1:25:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From:jzysek one.net (zman)
Sender:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
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To:97up-list ford-trucks.com

Nathan,

I want to start by saying you are a great resource and I hope you keep
reading
our posts and giving us the answers.

Thanks for replying to this msg. After rereading it I realized it was a
little
vague. I was POed about ford canceling the exterior color of "prairie tan"
and
replacing it with "harvest gold." I have seen harvest gold on the f150s and I
don't really like it. Looks like it is red or silver for me.....


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