97up-list-digest Tuesday, May 11 1999 Volume 02 : Number 123



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - F550 pricing online
Re: EXPEDITION: Re: FTE 97up - My first ford F250 SD
Re: FTE 97up - preserving paint
Re: EXPEDITION: Re: FTE 97up - My first ford F250 SD
FTE 97up - Towing in Overdrive
FTE 97up - How loud is a Cat-Back system?
[none]
FTE 97up - Rear door pop-out windows
FTE 97up - RE: Head Unit
Re: FTE 97up - CB Antennas (Reply)
FTE 97up - Re:
Re: FTE 97up - Re:
FTE 97up - is it possible

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:26:00 EDT
From: RAMWORKER aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F550 pricing online

If you need one quickly, Nichols Ford in Fort Worth, Texas has several heavy
duty trucks in stock, F-450, F-550, F-650 and one very cool "old" F-800, the
previous body style, it's a 4x4 (6x4?) six speed with a divorced M-H transfer
case and front differential 11.00x22.5 tires and a "C" series Cummins 250 hp.
I suspect this monster was ordered as an oil field service truck. The F-650s
have pretty wimpy 190hp Cummins "B" series engines, so for your use I'd get
the F-550 with the PowerStroke. The only thing that bothered me about the
trucks they have in stock is that they are pretty much all equipped with the
5 speed in lieu of the six speed.

Best Regards,
Robert

In a message dated 5/9/99 8:38:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
sven family-net.net writes:

> I'm going to be full time RVing, and Florida is flat enough that a F550
> > should work well. Too bad about that long wait!
> >
> > Brian Grande
> > Orlando, FL
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:33:39 -0400
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: EXPEDITION: Re: FTE 97up - My first ford F250 SD

The Borla rear-exit dual exhaust system for the F-350 V-10 locates the pipes
just under the rear bumper and about 1/2 inch shorter towards the rear than
the bumper. The Borla system is solid stainless steel. Even if you get the
tips wet on the boat launch, it will not matter one iota. In fact, I think
it might be interesting to hear the big V-10 blow some bubbles through the
dual pipes!

Keith


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>From: C E White
>To: expedition intellisys.net
>Date: Monday, May 10, 1999 7:43 AM
>Subject: Re: EXPEDITION: Re: FTE 97up - My first ford F250 SD
>
>
>>I dis-like pipes that exit out the rear because, at least on some
vehicles,
>they
>>are under water when you launch a boat. I figure if I put the side exiting
>pipe
>>under the water, I have bigger problems......
>>
>>Ed
>>
>>Keith Veren wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, I installed the Borla Dual Exhaust (Cat-Back) system with the pipes
>>> exiting straight out the rear.
>>
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Date: Fri, 07 May 1999 09:16:44 -0700
From: William Street
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - preserving paint

The guy at the body shop that repaired my 99 SD told me not to use 'wax' -
he recommends McGuires #17 so I'll be trying it as soon as I find it - doesn't
seem to be available in regular run-of-the-mill auto stores.

Bill

George Rigney wrote:

> The talk about the silver paint got me thinking about wax. Our truck is
> about three months old, and the wax is still holding up, but it won't be
> long before it needs a new coat. What type of wax do you guys use? I have
> tried several different kinds on my other cars, such as Turtle-wax, 2001,
> Kit. All gave a satisfactory finish, but none of them seem to last more
> than a month or so. I've heard good things about McGuire's (may not be the
> right spelling), but haven't tried it yet. This list is always full of
> great information, so I thought I'd get your opinions.
>
> Thanks to everyone who made suggestions about eliminating the noise from my
> front right wheel. I haven't been able to solve the problem, so I'm
> bringing it in to the dealer tomorrow. I'll let y'all know how it turns
> out.
>
> Regards,
>
> George
>
> 1974 Gran Torino Elite 351W
> 1984 LTD Crown Victoria 302
> 1999 F250 SD CC V10
>
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 06:39:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hunter
Subject: Re: EXPEDITION: Re: FTE 97up - My first ford F250 SD

Try Mejer....


> The Borla rear-exit dual exhaust system for the F-350 V-10 locates the pipes
> just under the rear bumper and about 1/2 inch shorter towards the rear than
> the bumper. The Borla system is solid stainless steel. Even if you get the
> tips wet on the boat launch, it will not matter one iota. In fact, I think
> it might be interesting to hear the big V-10 blow some bubbles through the
> dual pipes!

_________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:41:52 -0400
From: "John Luft"
Subject: FTE 97up - Towing in Overdrive

Just got back from towing my 6000+# travel trailer and my 99 F-250 SD 4x4
V10 3.73 auto. Pulled great. My question is whether or not to tow using
OD. Most of the trip was relatively flat and I was able to hold 60-65mph
without shifting out of OD. On some of the longer grades, I turned the OD
off. The dealer says I can pull in OD unless it starts shifting back and
forth, then I should turn off the OD. He said for the weight I'm pulling OD
should not be a problem with the transmission in the Super Dutys. It's not
that I don't trust the dealer but I figure there is a whole lot more "real
world" experience on this list.

John
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 08:28:39 -0700
From: Joe Zuk
Subject: FTE 97up - How loud is a Cat-Back system?

Hi all,
I need to replace the exhaust system on an older Bronco. I am thinking of adding a Cat-Back
exhaust system. How much noise will this add to the cab? I need to drive this truck everyday
for about 30miles so I don't want anything that is going to be too loud.
Thanks,
Joe



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Date: Mon, 10 May 99 10:37:02 +0000
From: mattadams pcisys.com
Subject: [none]

First off, I've got a few questions...

1) Has anyone been able to hook up an aftermarket head unit in their trucks,
that controls the factory (Clarion I'm told) CD changer? One that fits right
and doesn't look crummy preferably, with a lot more power :).

2) If not, what CD changer did you replace it with? Hopefully one with no
modifications to anything really required :).

Thats it for the questions... this weekend I installed some Kenwood Excelon 5x7
speakers in my truck, I wanted three-ways but no one seems to make them that I
could find? Anyways, they sound SUPER-SWEET! I am planning on installing some
aimable tweeters as well into the door to give me even more improved
performance.

For pictures of my stereo as of yet, check out
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pcisys.net/~mattbert/babe/stereo.html

Matt Adams
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:42:53 -0500
From: greg_lewis metro.nashville.org
Subject: FTE 97up - Rear door pop-out windows

I have a 1999 E-350 Super Duty XLT - 15 passenger. This van replaced a 1993
E-250 Club Wagon - 12 passenger which was destroyed in a wreck. The old van
had pop-out rear windows on the back doors. The new van does not. I am not
pleased with this as the van is used for going to dog shows and I haul 8
English Bulldogs with me to every show. I need the pop-out windows to allow
for a good flow of air when the van is parked in the shade.

Does anyone know why they eliminated the pop-out windows? Nathan, can you
help me? I did not see any options in the ordering information for the van.
I ordered it in Oct of 1998 and received in Nov of 1998.



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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:26:40 -0700
From: "Larry Drum"
Subject: FTE 97up - RE: Head Unit

Matt,

I did not install a head unit to control the CD Changer (mainly because I
didn't get one :o)), however I did install a completely new Head Unit. I
purchased a Double DIN CD Player, Tape Player & AM/FM Unit with a Built In 6
Disk Changer from Alpine. I do not have the exact model number in front of
me but the total cost after shipping was close to $950 for the Unit itself.
Installation was a breeze. It fit nice and snug in the origional DIN mounts
and came with the Ford Wiring Harness adapter. No wore splicing or cutting
was needed. The unit displays everything you could ever want. It has an
awesome 15 band electronic on-screen equalizer and two sets of Sub-Woofer
Pre-Amp RCA Output jacks. It also pumps out 60 watts of power to EACH of
the Speaker Outputs (Front & Rear). The unit is listed on Apline's WEB Site
and it is about 3 pages long with information on the unit. I have had the
unit for a little over 4 months and am Completely Impressed with the
performance it puts out. It also has controls for the In-Car 100 Disk
Changer made by Apline and for Pioneer's 100 Disk Changer.

Hope this helps.

Larry Drum
Captain, CHP Explorer Post #834
Needles Area
Webmaster - www.chpexplorer.org

'99 F-150 XL, Bright Red, 2WD, 4.2 V-6, 5 Spd. 3.55 LS, BugFlector II, Vent
Visors, Rhino Lining Bed Liner. Maxon 40 Channel W/10 Channel Weather CB.
Maxon "Through the Glass" CB Antenna (Awesome Performance) W/Weather Band.
(Lowering Kit Coming Soon :o).

Sound System -

Alpine In Dish 6 Disk Changer/Tape Player Head Unit. 4 Infinity Kappa
Series 5 X 7 Door and Rear Panel Speakers. 2 Cerwin Vega Stealth Series 12"
Sub Woofers in a Custom Enclosure Behind the Seat (Regular Cab). 1 -
Sherwood 250 Watt x 4 Channel Amplifier Bridged to 500 Watts X 2 Channels
Pushing the Subs, 1 - Pioneer 75 Watt X 4 Channel Amplifier Pushing the
Infinitiy's. All Cable and Wiring by Monster Cable. Power Distribution
Blocks by Monster Cable.


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[mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com] On Behalf Of mattadams pcisys.com
Sent:Monday, May 10, 1999 3:37 AM
To:f150list mindspring.com
Cc:97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject:

First off, I've got a few questions...

1) Has anyone been able to hook up an aftermarket head unit in their trucks,
that controls the factory (Clarion I'm told) CD changer? One that fits
right
and doesn't look crummy preferably, with a lot more power :).

2) If not, what CD changer did you replace it with? Hopefully one with no
modifications to anything really required :).

Thats it for the questions... this weekend I installed some Kenwood Excelon
5x7
speakers in my truck, I wanted three-ways but no one seems to make them that
I
could find? Anyways, they sound SUPER-SWEET! I am planning on installing
some
aimable tweeters as well into the door to give me even more improved
performance.

For pictures of my stereo as of yet, check out
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pcisys.net/~mattbert/babe/stereo.html

Matt Adams
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:23:16 -0400
From: "Kenneth J. Nagy"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - CB Antennas (Reply)

I'm pretty sure the Firestick also has a tunable tip, and if you cut them
chort, you can buy replacements.

Ken

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From:
To:
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 1999 3:56 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - CB Antennas (Reply)


> The reason why you are probably not getting a good SWR reading is because
the
> magnet is not strong enough to pull a good ground. Most magnetic mounts
are
> pretty cheap except a Wilson or a K40 (Wilson's are the best). If your
going
> to buy a "firestick" don't! Wilson has the same antenna as a firestick
only
> that you don't have to trim wire it has a tunable tip. A 4 foot firestick
is
> about 12 dollars. A four foot Wilson is about 30 or 40 dollars, but in
the
> long run its worth it. If you trim off to much wire on that firestick
your
> screwed, go buy a new one. On a Wilson you have a tunable tip that you
can
> play with forever meaning if you change trucks you can reset your antenna!
>
> My 2 Cents
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Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 03:03:20 GMT
From: alannorthstar mindspring.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Re:

I didn't post whatever question you're answering.

When you answer something in the newsgroup, please make sure that
the address is of the newsgroup, and not a person.

Later,
Alan


On Mon, 10 May 99 10:37:02 +0000, you wrote:

:First off, I've got a few questions...=20
:
:1) Has anyone been able to hook up an aftermarket head unit in their =
trucks,=20
:that controls the factory (Clarion I'm told) CD changer? One that fits =
right=20
:and doesn't look crummy preferably, with a lot more power :).
:
:2) If not, what CD changer did you replace it with? Hopefully one with =
no=20
:modifications to anything really required :).
:
:Thats it for the questions... this weekend I installed some Kenwood =
Excelon 5x7=20
:speakers in my truck, I wanted three-ways but no one seems to make them =
that I=20
:could find? Anyways, they sound SUPER-SWEET! I am planning on =
installing some=20
:aimable tweeters as well into the door to give me even more improved=20
:performance.
:
:For pictures of my stereo as of yet, check out=20
:http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pcisys.net/~mattbert/babe/stereo.html
:
:Matt Adams
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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:34:17 -0700
From: "Matt Adams"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re:

that makes no sense... not to get off topic or anything, but I didn't answer
any questions, Iasked some, and I sent it to the whole list... anyways, I've
pretty much decided Im not going to get ahead unit (WAY too expensive) and
instead get another amp to power my speakers.

Matt

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From: alannorthstar mindspring.com
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, May 10, 1999 8:11 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Re:


>I didn't post whatever question you're answering.
>
>When you answer something in the newsgroup, please make sure that
>the address is of the newsgroup, and not a person.
>
>Later,
> Alan
>
>
>On Mon, 10 May 99 10:37:02 +0000, you wrote:
>
>:First off, I've got a few questions...
>:
>:1) Has anyone been able to hook up an aftermarket head unit in their
trucks,
>:that controls the factory (Clarion I'm told) CD changer? One that fits
right
>:and doesn't look crummy preferably, with a lot more power :).
>:
>:2) If not, what CD changer did you replace it with? Hopefully one with no
>:modifications to anything really required :).
>:
>:Thats it for the questions... this weekend I installed some Kenwood
Excelon 5x7
>:speakers in my truck, I wanted three-ways but no one seems to make them
that I
>:could find? Anyways, they sound SUPER-SWEET! I am planning on installing
some
>:aimable tweeters as well into the door to give me even more improved
>:performance.
>:
>:For pictures of my stereo as of yet, check out
>:http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pcisys.net/~mattbert/babe/stereo.html
>:
>:Matt Adams
>:http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pcisys.net/~mattbert/babe/f150.html
>:
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