97up-list-digest Tuesday, January 5 1999 Volume 01 : Number 331



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Re: "fan" Noisre on 99 SD
Re: FTE 97up - what temp for blk heat?
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Super Duty Hubs: questions
Re: FTE 97up - emblem change..
Re: FTE 97up - 99 SD V8
FTE 97up - '99 F150 fuel economy & fan clutch
FTE 97up - DRL's - how and why
Re: FTE 97up - what temp for blk heat?
FTE 97up - F-150 Crew Cab
Re: FTE 97up - '99 F150 fuel economy & fan clutch
Re: FTE 97up - 99 SD V8
Re: FTE 97up - '99 F150 fuel economy & fan clutch
FTE 97up - What temperature for block heater
Re: FTE 97up - what temp for blk heat?
Re: FTE 97up - Block Heater
Re: FTE 97up - DRL's - how and why
FTE 97up - Ford 3000 circa 1966 Diesel
FTE 97up - PSD '99
Re: FTE 97up - F-150 Crew Cab
FTE 97up - ADMIN: TruckTough.com
FTE 97up - 99 SD Stinky Heater
Re: FTE 97up - PSD '99
Re: FTE 97up - PSD '99
Re: FTE 97up - 99 SD Stinky Heater
FTE 97up - Exhaust for V10..
Re: FTE 97up - ADMIN: TruckTough.com
Re: FTE 97up - ADMIN: TruckTough.com
Re: FTE 97up - PSD '99

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Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 07:00:38 -0500
From: Lee Haefele
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: "fan" Noisre on 99 SD

It is the fan, It takes the viscous coupling in the fan clutch a minute
or less to get loosened up. After that a temp sensing bi-metal coil
engages the fan clutch depending on tempeture. However it never totally
disengages either. Go load up to 20,000 lb then go up a long hill on a
hot day with the A/C on...Then you'll REALLY hear some noise.
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:48:08 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - what temp for blk heat?

You can plug them in at any temp you want and it will help starting and
really help warm-up times. They should still start when its cold. We just
got a snow storm so I had to move the cars to push snow this morning.
Its -10 F with a -30 to -50 wind chill. The Power Strokes started easier
than the gas trucks even without being plugged in.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

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From: RSnovi aol.com
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 6:06 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - what temp for blk heat?


>hey, at what temp do you guys up north usually plug in the block heater at
on
>the 99 PSD?
>
>thanks
>Ross Smith
>99 F250 4x4/PSD/SC


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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:52:19 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Super Duty Hubs: questions

I wouldn't worry about running the 4x4 in automatic it shouldn't hurt
anything. The manual override is mostly to make the people that had
problems with the old style auto hubs (tons of problems) feel safe with the
new style hubs.

As for AWD I wouldn't hold my breath. I'd expect F-150's to possibly get
Control trac (engages 4x4 when it senses wheel slippage) to compete with GM,
but I don't look for it on SD's

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.


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From: Bud Feuless & Miki Magara
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, January 02, 1999 1:25 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Super Duty Hubs: questions


>>Thanks Nathan -
>>
>>To confirm, contrary to what the service manager said, I can go from
>>2WD to 4WD (high range) at speeds above 20mph while the hubs are in
>>"automatic" - it wouldn't be of much value if I can't.
>...
>
>Soooo... are there any disadvantages to running the SD in 4WD "auto" for
>extended periods of time? This sounds similar to the ESOF on the Explorer,
>once you back up to unlock the hubs, that is, where the transfer case will
>remain in motion with the hubs unlocked.
>
>Also, anyone heard if the ol' blue oval will be coming out with AWD for the
>SD's? This would be absolutely wonderful for towing. I've run a couple of
>AWD vehicles with large trailers (for their GVWR) and it has seemed to add
>as much stability as DRW.
>
>Thanks in advance, Bud


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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:58:18 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - emblem change..

When they make a change it is from a certain date and every one made after
that date has the new equipment (emblems).

Nathan

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From: RSnovi aol.com
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 6:07 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - emblem change..


>Is it just me or does anyone else feel like they got the shaft on the new
>emblems on tailgate(F250 SuperDuty) instead of just (F250) and the
>(diesel...) on door.
> Did they just start the run of trucks w/o new emblems on early builds or
are
>we special? :)
>
>Ross Smith
>99 F250 4x4/PSD/SC
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:55:07 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 SD V8

I've had many trucks come in that the Dipstick has read incorrectly. The
old style pickups used to be this way all the time. After you change the
Oil (6 quarts) see where the dipstick reads. If it reads low you can mark
the dipstick or cut the tube a little shorter to make it read right.

Nathan Bernard

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From: Vaughn (VDB)
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 7:05 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 SD V8


>
>Does anybody out there have the 5.4 L
>V8 in their 99 SD??
>When I got my SD the oil on dipstick was
>at full. Later on when I changed my oil and
>put the 6 quarts in it only came up to about
>a quarter inch or more from the full mark.
>Now either I have the wrong dipstick and they
>put about a quart too much in when new, or
>it should have 7 quarts put in. (I doubt that though).
>Has anybody else noticed this???
>
>Thanks
>Vaughn
>1999 SD XLT 4X4 SC SB 5.4... White.
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Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 10:30:55 PST
From: "Jordan Rautiola"
Subject: FTE 97up - '99 F150 fuel economy & fan clutch

The best that I have seen so far is 14.5mpg, which is freeway driving at
70mph. I have the 3.55 diff (not limited slip) and 285/75-16 Dunlop
Radial Rovers w/35psi. In mixed highway/city driving I get around
13mpg, and in 4x4 mode on the backroads during a snowstorm I ended up
with about 10mpg. The truck has 2400 miles on it, and in order to
figure my mpg with the taller tires (33"), I add 8% to the miles
traveled, since the tires are 8% taller than the 255/70s it came with.
My fan clutch (been replaced once) blows like mad when engine is cold,
and after getting up to temp, it continuously cycles up and down. It
seems like a big waste of fuel to me. An electric fan would probably
never turn on in normal driving, especially in the Michigan winter!

Jordan Rautiola
'99 F150 XLT 4x4
Supercab longbed
5.4L automatic w/trailer tow package, 3.55 diff.
ARE fiberglass cap
Dunlop 285/75-16 Radial Rovers (look great)

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Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:41:04 -0500
From: ryana allensysgroup.com (Ryan Allen)
Subject: FTE 97up - DRL's - how and why

At 20:01 1/1/99 , you wrote:
>Did someone out there actually do some ground-breaking research on this
>topic at some time? Is there real reason or evidence behind this that got
>the whole country interested?

Back a few years ago when I thought they were the latest, greatest thing, I
wanted them so I did some research. Here's what I know from my research
into the issue. Now, this is only my personal information... take with a
grain of salt... :)

For quite a few decades, governments have looked for ways to reduce
accidents with motorcycles. Turning on headlights all the time was found
to reduce the number of cycle accidents, so it became standard on cycles.
The human eye (from nature) is drawn to any bright source of light. That's
why airplanes taxi on taxiways without lights at night, so as not to
distract landing pilots and draw their eyes away from the runway.
Anyway, someone somewhere in Canada got the "bright" idea to see if this
would work on cars. But instead of just keeping low-beams on, it was
decided that DRLs should be a low-intensity high beam, which would be
brighter in the daytime. After a few years of testing, it was reported (in
some magazine like Motor Trend, or something about 5-7 years ago) that
Canada had reduced by some 70% daytime accidents with cars with DRLs. So
they mandated them in Canada circa 1992, I think.
Since many Canadians buy cars here in the US and ship them back, dealers
had to add DRL switches to ignition switches for the vehicles to be shipped
to Canada. The only problem, is that DRLs are a low-intensity high beam.
And these aftermarket switches were turning on just low-beam headlights.
So there was a clear need to offer better systems.
After a few years of market acceptance, manufacturers like GM decided that
what was good there (CA) was good here (US). So they started introducing
DRLs on US vehicles. I don't know if they U.S. Gov't was involved (I'm
sure they were), but it became more popular. Besides, manufacturers only
had to make one headlight switch assembly for all the US/Canada vehicles.
Now, come people have argued that the more DRLs you have, the less
effective they are because pretty soon every car will have lights on. But
this is not the case most of the time. Since the human eye reacts to
light, it doesn't matter how many DRLs are seen, the human eye will still
pick out each one. I do think, however, that motorcycles will get lost in
the mix. Thus necessitating another modification for them.
GM and others have now taken off DRLs on some of their vehicles. Is this
good? bad? Only time will tell. That's the overview as I know it. I
hope I helped. I guess I'm saying that this isn't merely a marketing
gimmick, since most ads don't talk about it. They focus on air bags, etc.
And there is research out there. But is it conclusive? I doubt it! :)

Cheers,
Ryan Allen
Intranet Specialist
Intranet Development Team (IDTeam)
Allen Systems Group
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:10:51 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - what temp for blk heat?

Remember, for vehicles, "wind chill" does not matter. All wind does is get
a warm car to cool-off to the ambient temperature more quickly than without
wind; however, once the vehicle is at the ambient temperature, wind will not
cool it off further. The reason people are so affected by wind is that we
are trying to maintain 98.6 deg. F, and the more wind we are subject to the
faster we are "fighting" being cooled towards ambient temp. The only reason
I mention this is I see many inappropriate references to wind-chill in
association with vehicles.


Keith



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From: Union Auto
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, January 04, 1999 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - what temp for blk heat?


>You can plug them in at any temp you want and it will help starting and
>really help warm-up times. They should still start when its cold. We just
>got a snow storm so I had to move the cars to push snow this morning.
> Its -10 F with a -30 to -50 wind chill. The Power Strokes started easier
>than the gas trucks even without being plugged in.
>
>Nathan Bernard
>Union Auto, Inc.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: RSnovi aol.com
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 6:06 PM
>Subject: FTE 97up - what temp for blk heat?
>
>
>>hey, at what temp do you guys up north usually plug in the block heater
at
>on
>>the 99 PSD?
>>
>>thanks
>>Ross Smith
>>99 F250 4x4/PSD/SC
>
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 13:21:03 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - F-150 Crew Cab

Ford just unveiled the F-150 Crew cab. The info is at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://carpoint.msn.com/autoshow99

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.


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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:06:29 -0500
From: "Larry Hackler"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - '99 F150 fuel economy & fan clutch

On a trip on the interstates (only one major grade of 5% for 8 miles) at
between 60 & 65 mph I got 16.6, 17 & 17.4 mpg. I have a '99 F150, 4x4,
5.4L, 3.55, stock wheel & tires (16 inch) automatic, SC shortbed. The
mileage still seems to be improving with 3100 miles.

It's not great milage, but it was better than I expected.

Larry

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From: Jordan Rautiola
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, January 04, 1999 1:31 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - '99 F150 fuel economy & fan clutch


>The best that I have seen so far is 14.5mpg, which is freeway driving at
>70mph. I have the 3.55 diff (not limited slip) and 285/75-16 Dunlop

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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:37:35 4
From: "Vaughn (VDB)"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 SD V8

Hi Nathan,

Thanks for the info.
I called the dealer and talked to three different
people (parts and sevice) the shop forman said
basicly its no big deal just fill it to the top
hash mark. So in that case the oil pan actually
holds more like 6 1/2 quarts not 6. Which is fine
with me. I just wanted to know that I was not over filling
it. And the little trick you mentioned is what I had
to do with my 95 Dodge Ram. (same problem)

Thanks again
Vaughn



I've had many trucks come in that the Dipstick has read
incorrectly. The
old style pickups used to be this way all the time. After you
change the Oil (6 quarts) see where the dipstick reads. If it
reads low you can mark the dipstick or cut the tube a little
shorter to make it read right.

Nathan Bernard

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From: Vaughn (VDB)
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 7:05 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 SD V8


>
>Does anybody out there have the 5.4 L
>V8 in their 99 SD??
>When I got my SD the oil on dipstick was
>at full. Later on when I changed my oil and
>put the 6 quarts in it only came up to about
>a quarter inch or more from the full mark.
>Now either I have the wrong dipstick and they
>put about a quart too much in when new, or
>it should have 7 quarts put in. (I doubt that though).
>Has anybody else noticed this???
>
>Thanks
>Vaughn
>1999 SD XLT 4X4 SC SB 5.4... White.
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:24:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Gaudenti
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - '99 F150 fuel economy & fan clutch


> My fan clutch (been replaced once) blows like mad when engine is cold,
> and after getting up to temp, it continuously cycles up and down. It
> seems like a big waste of fuel to me. An electric fan would probably
> never turn on in normal driving, especially in the Michigan winter!
>
> Jordan Rautiola

I had an electric fan on my last car, and an LED on the dash that would
light when the fan was running. You're right, on a cold day it would
rarely run. Only if not moving for a long time. On hot summer days it
only ran if I was moving below about 20 MPH for too long.

I just ordered an electric fan for my F-150. I'm going to yank the
engine-driven fan and install the electric as soon as time and weather
permit.

Danny

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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 17:54:53 -0600
From: "Jack Lubinski"
Subject: FTE 97up - What temperature for block heater

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From: RSnovi aol.com
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 6:56 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - what temp for blk heat?


>hey, at what temp do you guys up north usually plug in the block heater at
on
>the 99 PSD?
>
>thanks
>Ross Smith
>99 F250 4x4/PSD/SC
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In response to the above :

Although I don't own a 99 PSD, one of the most impressive features of our 97
F250 LD 5.4 L is cold temperature starting. Recently, temperatures have
dropped to the minus 30 degree C range with no start-up problems. Within
10 - 15 minutes I usually have to turn the temperature selector down. This
is one of the warmest winter vehicles I have driven. I use standard 5 W 30
oil specified by Ford. Warm-ups are a little quicker if the block heater is
used. I might contimplate using the block heater when temps drop into the
minus 40 range, but I won't until then just to see how tough this truck
really is. Never heard of engine damage caused by block heater use/over
use.
My testing aside, most folks in my region (central Canada) like to use
block heaters overnight when the temperture dips down to minus 18 C or 0 F.

Warmly,

Jack Lubinski


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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 02:04:48 GMT
From: alannorthstar mindspring.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - what temp for blk heat?

On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:52:40 EST, you wrote:

:hey, at what temp do you guys up north usually plug in the block heater=
at on
:the 99 PSD?
:
:thanks
:Ross Smith
:99 F250 4x4/PSD/SC
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I don't have a PSD, but I've always used a block heater on my
gasoline engines when the overnight temp was going to be -15, or
lower.

However, you can use it at a higher temp -- the nice thing being
that you'll get heat from the heater much faster!

Later,
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 02:07:44 GMT
From: alannorthstar mindspring.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Block Heater

On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 01:18:51 GMT, you wrote:

:On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 18:05:43 -0600, Karl Nyhus
:wrote:
:
:> If I listen carefully, I can hear low whooshing or
:> hissing sounds begin when I plug the heater in.
:
:Hmmm... This sounds like your coolant is boiling. (at the heater at
:least) I'm guessing that the block heater gets quite a bit hotter
:than any engine surface that is in contact with the coolant does when
:the coolant is circulating.

Actually, you know how a tea kettle makes the most noise in the
higher temp just below boiling? I think that's the same
phenomenon with the block heater. They can't really be set to
boil the water or you'd blow all the coolant out of your system
and into the recovery tank -- and the ground.

I've always just known that the little sound means it's working.
. . . . .

:
:This brings up a question for me. Are there any drawbacks at all to
:frequent routine use of the block heater? Like reduced coolant life
:or whatever?

I've never heard of any, not that I've researched it, though!
:-)

Later,
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Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 02:10:24 GMT
From: alannorthstar mindspring.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - DRL's - how and why

On Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:41:04 -0500, you wrote:

:At 20:01 1/1/99 , you wrote:
:>Did someone out there actually do some ground-breaking research on this
:>topic at some time? Is there real reason or evidence behind this that =
got
:>the whole country interested?
:
:Back a few years ago when I thought they were the latest, greatest =
thing, I
:wanted them so I did some research. Here's what I know from my research
:into the issue. Now, this is only my personal information... take with =
a
:grain of salt... :)
:
:For quite a few decades, governments have looked for ways to reduce
:accidents with motorcycles. Turning on headlights all the time was =
found
:to reduce the number of cycle accidents, so it became standard on =
cycles.


Hmmmm. The only "research" I ever saw about this was mentions
that it had been a law in Sweden for several years, and they had
something like a 10% reduction in daytime traffic accidents.

At one point, this was described in Consumer Reports.


I actually would like to know if there is anything scientific
that can be cited!

Later,
Alan
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:19:08 -0500
From: Claude King
Subject: FTE 97up - Ford 3000 circa 1966 Diesel

I know it is off topic but I need to get my injector pump rebuilt on my Ford
3000 3Cyl Diesel tractor, has lucas system last of ones built in England. Any
pointers would be helpful

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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:19:42 EST
From: JPatte5238 aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - PSD '99

I own a PSD and have a few questions.

!. When I fill up the truck with diesel and leave the engine running, the
diesel gauge does not move to the full mark. I have to shut the engine down
then restart to get the correct tank reading. Is this normal?
2. In the colder weather, I have notice when the truck is idling or on cold
startups, after about 2 minutes the engine will go from 600prm to 1200prm
(approx.). Is this the fast heat up option doing this or is something wrong?

Thank You
John Patterson
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:42:22 -0500
From: "Eddie Pettit"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-150 Crew Cab

I couldn't find it at first... for those that had the same problem, go here:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://carpoint.msn.com/Autoshow99/article/Ford/

It also shows the 2001 Explorer Sport Trac too, half Explorer/half pickup.
Reminds me of a Ford Hummer.

Eddie Pettit
Midlothian VA
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://surf.to/my97F150/

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From: Union Auto
To: Ford Truck Enthusiast
Sent: Monday, January 04, 1999 2:21 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - F-150 Crew Cab


>Ford just unveiled the F-150 Crew cab. The info is at
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://carpoint.msn.com/autoshow99
>
>Nathan Bernard
>Union Auto, Inc.
>
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From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: TruckTough.com

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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 20:08:46 -0800
From: "Matt Bailey"
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 SD Stinky Heater

Today was the third time I noticed a rancid smell coming from my heater, my
truck is only three weeks old. It only seems to happen when the truck is
cold or when it is first started, it's a awful smell sorta a cross between a
skunk and burnt hair ?
Has anyone else ever had this happen?

Mattb

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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:23:40 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - PSD '99

In a message dated 99-01-04 21:33:35 EST, you write:

you know come to think of it mine had a sort of erratic idle today when it
turned cold here today.

Ross Smith
99 F 250 PSD/4x4/SC

Date:99-01-04 21:33:35 EST
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I own a PSD and have a few questions.

!. When I fill up the truck with diesel and leave the engine running, the
diesel gauge does not move to the full mark. I have to shut the engine down
then restart to get the correct tank reading. Is this normal?
2. In the colder weather, I have notice when the truck is idling or on cold
startups, after about 2 minutes the engine will go from 600prm to 1200prm
(approx.). Is this the fast heat up option doing this or is something wrong?

Thank You
John Patterson
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 01:32:15 EST
From: FISHNG1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - PSD '99

Has anyone been having a hard time getting on the "Powerstroke diesel page"
the last few days. Besides FTE this is one of the better BBs on the net.
Maybe their server is down. Thanks in advance and Keep up the great work Ken
P.

Steve Ng....FishNg1 aol.com
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 23:06:36 -0800
From: "Jose Pomposo Jr."
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 SD Stinky Heater

When my truck was just three weeks old the air conditioning unit would emit
a smell that resembled an ash tray. It smelled as if somebody had put their
ashes in the truck.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Matt Bailey
To: Ford Truck Mailing List
Date: Monday, January 04, 1999 8:04 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 SD Stinky Heater


>Today was the third time I noticed a rancid smell coming from my heater, my
>truck is only three weeks old. It only seems to happen when the truck is
>cold or when it is first started, it's a awful smell sorta a cross between
a
>skunk and burnt hair ?
>Has anyone else ever had this happen?
>
>Mattb
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 02:08:49 -0500
From: Rich Hixon-KC8ITO
Subject: FTE 97up - Exhaust for V10..

List,
I have a 99 F250 SD 4x4 auto w/V10. I wanted more power and better
m.p.g. so I had a muffler shop remove my
exhaust system from the cat converter back. I had them replace it with just
a straight 3" pipe routed the same as
the parts that were removed.
The truck sounds great, nice low rumble at idle, seems to have more
power at all rpm's, and I seem to be getting
about 1-1.5 m.p.g. better. Also the exhaust tone at speed sounds great too.
And best of all, you can save the removed
parts for re-installation if needed, and the price was only $75.00 total.
Talk to ya later, Rich.
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Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 23:29:03 -0800
From: "Michael D. Sheridan"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - ADMIN: TruckTough.com

Ken Payne wrote:
>
> Dear Ford Truck Enthusiasts list members:
>
> We have a new sponsor on our web site. Since the beginning,
> our practice with web site sponsor has been to make a brief
> announcement for 2 days (this is day 1 of 2).
>
> This sponsor is a little different from the others we've had...
> they're having a $1000 giveaway!!!!!!
>
> TruckTough.com will enter you into their contest simply for
> filling out a truck survey. I already did.... :-)
>
> Their site features:
>
> Surveys, knowledge, contests, trivia games, and information about
> all brands of full size pickup trucks - You could win $1000 dollars!
> Also: other prizes, sweepstakes, etc.
>
> They can be found at:
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.trucktough.com/start.cfm
>
> If you enjoy their site, we would like to you to let them know you
> heard about them via Ford Truck Enthusiasts.
>
> Now returning you to our regularly scheduled program...
>
> Ken Payne
> Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

I don't know about anyone else by I get an error after I
finish the first page and can't go on.

Michael
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 02:35:50 -0500
From: "Eddie Pettit"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - ADMIN: TruckTough.com

Yeah, same here, but it's actually the second page here. The first only
wanted my zip code.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Michael D. Sheridan
To:
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1999 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - ADMIN: TruckTough.com


>Ken Payne wrote:
>>
>> Dear Ford Truck Enthusiasts list members:
>>
>> We have a new sponsor on our web site. Since the beginning,
>> our practice with web site sponsor has been to make a brief
>> announcement for 2 days (this is day 1 of 2).
>>
>> This sponsor is a little different from the others we've had...
>> they're having a $1000 giveaway!!!!!!
>>
>> TruckTough.com will enter you into their contest simply for
>> filling out a truck survey. I already did.... :-)
>>
>> Their site features:
>>
>> Surveys, knowledge, contests, trivia games, and information about
>> all brands of full size pickup trucks - You could win $1000 dollars!
>> Also: other prizes, sweepstakes, etc.
>>
>> They can be found at:
>>
>> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.trucktough.com/start.cfm
>>
>> If you enjoy their site, we would like to you to let them know you
>> heard about them via Ford Truck Enthusiasts.
>>....

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