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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?
Re: FTE 97up - limited slip diff.
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?
Re: FTE 97up - limited slip diff.
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?
FTE 97up - DAY-TIME RUNNING LIGHTS
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?
FTE 97up - Re: Tire Sizes
FTE 97up - "fan" noise on 99 SD
Re: FTE 97up - "fan" noise on 99 SD
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?
Re: FTE 97up - "fan" noise on 99 SD
Re: FTE 97up - "fan" noise on 99 SD
Re: FTE 97up - which axle ratio
FTE 97up - New T-Bird Pics
FTE 97up - what temp for blk heat?
FTE 97up - emblem change..
Re: FTE 97up - Block Heater
FTE 97up - CD Player disks hot
FTE 97up - 99 SD V8
Re: FTE 97up - Block Heater
FTE 97up - Tonneaus
Re: FTE 97up - Block Heater
Re: FTE 97up - what temp for blk heat?
Re: FTE 97up - Tonneaus
Re: FTE 97up - Tonneaus

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:32:46 4
From: "Vaughn (VDB)"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?

I had heard that the TSB lowering the rear
was causing some drivetrail vibrations.
Apparently it was screwing up the drivetrail
angles....So I would ask the dealership about
that first.
And also you can fit 35" tires under the 4X4 SD
without lifting it. And there is also a lift kit
or two out there that lifts the front 3" to level
the truck out. It uses 4 and 5 leaf spring packs
in the front. No drilling or cutting, just take
out the stock spring pack and slap the new ones in.

As far as tires, I'm going to go with BFG AT's in
285/75/16 they are approx. 32" . And BFG also makes
a 295/75/16 thats 33".

Hope that helps...
Vaughn




I believe they have a TSB for people with problems pulling 5th
wheel/gooseneck on a 4x4, that they change rear blocks to 4x2
set up. 16 in should not be hard to find its a pretty common
size, pretty sure BFG or Michelin (same company) makes one.

Ross S
99 F 250 XLT/PSD/SC/ 4x4
9sec93cobra

Anyone know what is the biggest tire I can put
on a stock premium rim? I think the rims are 8in wide?
I believe the tires 265-75-16. Think that's about 31.5 in tall
and 8in wide foot print! I would like to get a tire that is 2in
taller and 2 in wider!!! I will be wanting an A/T tire! Has
anyone made a tire change like this? I have checked a few tire
stores 16in A/T tires seem to be hard to find,

that are 33 to 34in tall and 10in foot print?
I also would like to lower the back of the truck
2ins, to make it sit close to level.
So any help here would also be appreciated
SD./ F250/ Crewcab 4x4/ Shortbed/ Lariat/V10/ LS3.73
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:39:11 4
From: "Vaughn (VDB)"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?

Summit, kind of just skims over truck stuff.
Your best bet is to go to your news stand and
grab a 4 Wheel Drive magazine, they have all kinds
of outfits who sell strictly truck and 4x4 toys.


I just got the summit performance pickup truck catalog
today.....It is full of "those sort of things"

Frank



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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:55:38 -0500
From: "Anne Mitchell"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - limited slip diff.

Limited slip means that when a wheel loses traction drive power is
transferred to the wheel with traction. This allows for some limited
slippage (wheel spin) before power is transferred to the opposite side of
the axle. This is accomplished by a number of friction plates rubbing
against each other in the differential (poor description).

Steve


>in lay-man's terms, what is a "limited slip differential"? what are the
>advantages (this might be answered with the explanation) and
>disadvantages? thanks, steve semenick
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 09:22:23 -0500
From: "Signa"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?

Two questions:

Will the 285/75/16 fit on a 99' F150 that has 16" aluminum wheels(not sure
how wide they are)?
How to you correct the speedometer after changing the tire diameter?

Thanks!

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Vaughn (VDB)
To:
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 1999 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?


>
>I had heard that the TSB lowering the rear
>was causing some drivetrail vibrations.
>Apparently it was screwing up the drivetrail
>angles....So I would ask the dealership about
>that first.
>And also you can fit 35" tires under the 4X4 SD
>without lifting it. And there is also a lift kit
>or two out there that lifts the front 3" to level
>the truck out. It uses 4 and 5 leaf spring packs
>in the front. No drilling or cutting, just take
>out the stock spring pack and slap the new ones in.
>
>As far as tires, I'm going to go with BFG AT's in
>285/75/16 they are approx. 32" . And BFG also makes
>a 295/75/16 thats 33".
>
>Hope that helps...
>Vaughn
>
>
>
>
>I believe they have a TSB for people with problems pulling 5th
>wheel/gooseneck on a 4x4, that they change rear blocks to 4x2
>set up. 16 in should not be hard to find its a pretty common
>size, pretty sure BFG or Michelin (same company) makes one.
>
>Ross S
>99 F 250 XLT/PSD/SC/ 4x4
>9sec93cobra
>
> Anyone know what is the biggest tire I can put
> on a stock premium rim? I think the rims are 8in wide?
> I believe the tires 265-75-16. Think that's about 31.5 in tall
> and 8in wide foot print! I would like to get a tire that is 2in
> taller and 2 in wider!!! I will be wanting an A/T tire! Has
> anyone made a tire change like this? I have checked a few tire
> stores 16in A/T tires seem to be hard to find,
>
> that are 33 to 34in tall and 10in foot print?
> I also would like to lower the back of the truck
> 2ins, to make it sit close to level.
> So any help here would also be appreciated
> SD./ F250/ Crewcab 4x4/ Shortbed/ Lariat/V10/ LS3.73
> G >>
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 11:15:07 -0400
From: Mark MacDonald
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - limited slip diff.

At 09:55 AM 1/3/99 , you wrote:

My $.02 about LSD is that in the snow, instead of having one tire not
spinning holding the truck straight, and the other tire spinning and
pushing the truck forward, both tires spin and the truck goes sideways. It
takes some getting used to, but when you have a feel for it, it handles
moderate amounts of snow much better.

Cheers.


>Limited slip means that when a wheel loses traction drive power is
>transferred to the wheel with traction. This allows for some limited
>slippage (wheel spin) before power is transferred to the opposite side of
>the axle. This is accomplished by a number of friction plates rubbing
>against each other in the differential (poor description).
>
>Steve

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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 09:47:34 -0800
From: Gene Ball
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?

I have found a calculator on line that converts metric tire size to inches!
According to it a 285/75/16 is 32.8 in tall 11.2 in wide and has a foot print
of 8.4 in
And my personal opion is they will fit the rim and the truck with no
problem???
Your Ford parts dealer should be able to give you the correct gear for your
transmission,
to correct your speedometer. Which should be very easy to change.
Try going to this site for more information on tires and gearing.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.4lo.com/
Gene


Signa wrote:

> Two questions:
>
> Will the 285/75/16 fit on a 99' F150 that has 16" aluminum wheels(not sure
> how wide they are)?
> How to you correct the speedometer after changing the tire diameter?
>
> Thanks!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Vaughn (VDB)
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, January 03, 1999 8:32 AM
> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?
>
> >
> >I had heard that the TSB lowering the rear
> >was causing some drivetrail vibrations.
> >Apparently it was screwing up the drivetrail
> >angles....So I would ask the dealership about
> >that first.
> >And also you can fit 35" tires under the 4X4 SD
> >without lifting it. And there is also a lift kit
> >or two out there that lifts the front 3" to level
> >the truck out. It uses 4 and 5 leaf spring packs
> >in the front. No drilling or cutting, just take
> >out the stock spring pack and slap the new ones in.
> >
> >As far as tires, I'm going to go with BFG AT's in
> >285/75/16 they are approx. 32" . And BFG also makes
> >a 295/75/16 thats 33".
> >
> >Hope that helps...
> >Vaughn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >I believe they have a TSB for people with problems pulling 5th
> >wheel/gooseneck on a 4x4, that they change rear blocks to 4x2
> >set up. 16 in should not be hard to find its a pretty common
> >size, pretty sure BFG or Michelin (same company) makes one.
> >
> >Ross S
> >99 F 250 XLT/PSD/SC/ 4x4
> >9sec93cobra
> >
> > Anyone know what is the biggest tire I can put
> > on a stock premium rim? I think the rims are 8in wide?
> > I believe the tires 265-75-16. Think that's about 31.5 in tall
> > and 8in wide foot print! I would like to get a tire that is 2in
> > taller and 2 in wider!!! I will be wanting an A/T tire! Has
> > anyone made a tire change like this? I have checked a few tire
> > stores 16in A/T tires seem to be hard to find,
> >
> > that are 33 to 34in tall and 10in foot print?
> > I also would like to lower the back of the truck
> > 2ins, to make it sit close to level.
> > So any help here would also be appreciated
> > SD./ F250/ Crewcab 4x4/ Shortbed/ Lariat/V10/ LS3.73
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 10:10:06 -0600
From: "Jack Lubinski"
Subject: FTE 97up - DAY-TIME RUNNING LIGHTS

As a canadian resident, I can only say that all vehicles up here come with
day-time running lights as standard equipment. There are statistics which
prove that having lights on all the time (lower intensity during daylight)
reduces the incidence of vehicle accidents. I personally believe this
feature does improve highway safety due to improved visibility of on-coming
traffic during various conditions. ie overcast, vehicle color, snow fall
etc. If you install day-time running lamps, it would be "safe" to say you
are taking one more step to being more visible on the highways.


Jack Lubinski
97 F250 LD 4x4 5.4 L

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From: Bud Feuless & Miki Magara
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, January 02, 1999 11:24 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: '99 F-350 daytime running lights wiring


>Y'know... I've never really understood this whole daytime running lights
>thing...
>
>Back near the end of World War II, the Army was experimenting with various
>methods of camouflage. They found that the most effective way to hid a
tank
>in the middle of the desert, at that time, was to cover it with headlights
>and turn them on. This, of course, refers to covering the whole vehicle,
>not just turning on the standard lights. Myself, I have found that running
>lights really help only if they contrast strongly with the overall color of
>the vehicle. In other words, I find a black truck at day, running his
>lights easy to see. I find a tan truck at day, running his lights either
>less easy to see or not improved.
>
>Did someone out there actually do some ground-breaking research on this
>topic at some time? Is there real reason or evidence behind this that got
>the whole country interested? Or, is this another marketing ploy... like
>low cholesterol (eating cholesterol has no direct correlating impact on
>serum cholesterol, you're putting it into your stomach, not injecting it
>into your blood) and today's low fat foods (that often have twice the
>caloric content due to increase carbohydrate/sugar content, pure sugar has
>no fat, try living on it for a few weeks and see if you lose weight!).
>
>Regards


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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:36:21 4
From: "Vaughn (VDB)"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?

If you go to: www.natltire.com or www.tyres1.com

You can go to their tire section, click on
the tire/s you are interested in and it will
give you the tire diameter, width, size rim needed.
As a rule tire heights (diameter) listed are not usually
correct (with any tire manuf.) tires have a tendency
to be smaller than listed. If it lists 33" the actual
diameter on the truck may only be 32.5 or even less.
As far as if it will fit your 99 F150, they should
have a chart on what hits and what hits.
Don't know if that chart is online, but you could call.

Hope this helps
Thanks
Vaughn


Two questions:

Will the 285/75/16 fit on a 99' F150 that has 16" aluminum
wheels(not sure how wide they are)? How to you correct the
speedometer after changing the tire diameter?

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 11:42:00 4
From: "Vaughn (VDB)"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?

Sorry I forgot you other question.
Moving up a size or two really doesn't
effect mph readings much. Maybe 3mph average.
But I believe there is a way to compensate.
I think it requires changing the gear ratio
for the speedometer, which I believe is located
on or in the transmission. But for the little
it changes I would not worry about it.

Vaughn




Two questions:

Will the 285/75/16 fit on a 99' F150 that has 16" aluminum
wheels(not sure how wide they are)? How to you correct the
speedometer after changing the tire diameter?

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 08:54:19 -0800
From: "Matt Bailey"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?

Your stock rims are only 7" wide, however you can put a 285/75/R16 which is
32.8" tall and 9.5" wide. I put this size tire in a BFG A/T on my new SD
F250 and would not suggest going any bigger, they look great, no clearance
problems and the speedo was not effected enough to mess with.

Mattb



>> >
>> > Anyone know what is the biggest tire I can put
>> > on a stock premium rim? I think the rims are 8in wide?
>> > I believe the tires 265-75-16. Think that's about 31.5 in tall
>> > and 8in wide foot print! I would like to get a tire that is 2in
>> > taller and 2 in wider!!! I will be wanting an A/T tire! Has
>> > anyone made a tire change like this? I have checked a few tire
>> > stores 16in A/T tires seem to be hard to find,
>> >
>> > that are 33 to 34in tall and 10in foot print?
>> > I also would like to lower the back of the truck
>> > 2ins, to make it sit close to level.
>> > So any help here would also be appreciated
>> > SD./ F250/ Crewcab 4x4/ Shortbed/ Lariat/V10/ LS3.73
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 14:49:16 -0500
From: Michael
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Tire Sizes

Gene,

I changed the tires on my 99 Superduty 4X4 PSD to 305/70/16 Goodyear AT
Tires. They fit on the stock rims and look really good. They are
33X12.00X16 in actual size and are a little more noisy than the tires that
came on my truck but they ride and handle nice.

These are fairly new tires on the market and you may have to look a
little for them but I think it was worth the effort. Also, go ahead an buy
the 5th tire for the spare as it does fit on the spare tire carrier and
sits tight against the frame when cranked in the storage position.

Take Care,
Michael 99 Superduty SuperCab 4X4 Lariat PSD
Cape Coral, FL








>Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 21:24:22 -0800
>From: Gene Ball
>Subject: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?
>
>Anyone know what is the biggest tire I can put
>on a stock premium rim? I think the rims are 8in wide?
>I believe the tires 265-75-16. Think that's about 31.5 in tall
>and 8in wide foot print! I would like to get a tire that is 2in
>taller and 2 in wider!!! I will be wanting an A/T tire!
>Has anyone made a tire change like this?
>I have checked a few tire stores 16in A/T tires seem to be hard to find,
>
>that are 33 to 34in tall and 10in foot print?
>I also would like to lower the back of the truck
>2ins, to make it sit close to level.
>So any help here would also be appreciated
>SD./ F250/ Crewcab 4x4/ Shortbed/ Lariat/V10/ LS3.73
>Gene


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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 13:07:10 -0800
From: Gordon Croft
Subject: FTE 97up - "fan" noise on 99 SD

We have a 99 SD SC 2WD with the V10 and auto trany.

When it's cold, for about the first minute or so of driving, it makes a
fairly loud "fan" like noise. Maybe it's a heat riser type thing or ???

Doesn't seem to bother anything but I'm curious to know what it is.

Any ideas?

Gord

Surrey, BC, Canada
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 17:27:32 -0400
From: Mark MacDonald
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - "fan" noise on 99 SD

At 01:07 PM 1/3/99 -0800, you wrote:

I have a 98 F-150, 4.2 V6 and I noticed the same thing. I know they have
clutch fans on them, but I am trying to figure out how/why they work. Whtn
it is cold, they make a loud roaring noise, so loud infact that when I
leave early in the mornings, it wakes the neighbor next door. When the
truck warms up a bit, the noise goes away, which does not make a whole lot
of sense to me. When the truck is idling when its warm, I can hear the
clutch engaging and the fan spinning faster making a fan noise, then it
will stop shortly thereafter. I think this has something to do with the AC
unit, but Im not sure. Im hoping some of the experts can shed some light on
this for both of us. Thanks

>
We have a 99 SD SC 2WD with the V10 and auto trany.
>
>When it's cold, for about the first minute or so of driving, it makes a
>fairly loud "fan" like noise. Maybe it's a heat riser type thing or ???
>
>Doesn't seem to bother anything but I'm curious to know what it is.
>
>
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 16:35:53 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty F250 4X4 tires?

As I wrote in a previous message, you can lower the rear or, as I am going
to do, raise the front.

There is actually a specific procedure for this. Tell your dealer to look
in
the 1999 F-SuperDuty 250/350/450/550 Workshop Manual Volume 1 on page
204-00-28 "Vehicle Lean Correction" - Front F-250/350 4X2 or 4X4 also
204-00-31 "Vehicle Lean Correction" - Rear F-250/350 4X2 and 4X4. The fix
involves adding shims between the axle and the springs on the low side (if
both sides are too low, they say you can add shims to both sides to raise
vehicle). Also, you may want to go to a spring shop, they can "re-arch" the
lower spring to make it even. I know how you feel, I hate it when trucks
lean!

Keith


>that are 33 to 34in tall and 10in foot print?
>I also would like to lower the back of the truck
>2ins, to make it sit close to level.
>So any help here would also be appreciated
>SD./ F250/ Crewcab 4x4/ Shortbed/ Lariat/V10/ LS3.73
>Gene
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:08:33 -0800
From: Gene Ball
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - "fan" noise on 99 SD

Gord I also have the V10, automatic, 4X4. I have not heard any fan or engine
noise yet!
Gene

Gordon Croft wrote:

> We have a 99 SD SC 2WD with the V10 and auto trany.
>
> When it's cold, for about the first minute or so of driving, it makes a
> fairly loud "fan" like noise. Maybe it's a heat riser type thing or ???
>
> Doesn't seem to bother anything but I'm curious to know what it is.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Gord
>
> Surrey, BC, Canada
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 15:28:45 -0800
From: "Neil or Debbie Plocek"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - "fan" noise on 99 SD

Nothing to worry about, it is the fan. When you first start your engine the
fan clutch is locked-up, after a few minutes it goes into free-wheel. When
you get into a hard pull and your engine heats up, you'll hear the fan start
to spin again until the engine temp. comes back down.

We have a 99 SD SC 2WD with the V10 and auto trany.

When it's cold, for about the first minute or so of driving, it makes a
fairly loud "fan" like noise. Maybe it's a heat riser type thing or ???

Doesn't seem to bother anything but I'm curious to know what it is.

Any ideas?

Gord

Surrey, BC, Canada
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 17:53:30 -0600
From: Karl Nyhus
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - which axle ratio

> alannorthstar mindspring.com wrote:
> Karl.... what do you mean by the "econo" axle ratio?
> If you mean a low ratio, for low engine revs, you
> could hardly get a lower one, could you?

"Econo" axle ratio refers to the 3.08 axle I
selected in an effort to get the best gas mileage.
It is a taller gear ratio than the optional 3.55 I
now wish I had selected. ("Taller" meaning the
engine turns at a LOWER speed for any given road
speed. "Low" axle ratio actually means the engine
turns faster at comparable road speed, which gives
you more power, but according to some, also uses
more fuel.)

Karl Nyhus, Minneapolis, MN--1997 Pacific Green
Ford F-150 SuperCab XL, SB, 4.6L V8, 4WD, 5-speed,
3.08, LT255/70R16D BFG All-Terrain T/A on steel,
Better Built toolbox, Line-X spray-in liner,
rust-proofed, undercoated
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 18:54:43 -0500
From: Mark Lee
Subject: FTE 97up - New T-Bird Pics

For all you Fordaholics out there...

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.blueovalnews.com/index.html/2001_thunderbirdlow.htm
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:52:40 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - what temp for blk heat?

hey, at what temp do you guys up north usually plug in the block heater at on
the 99 PSD?

thanks
Ross Smith
99 F250 4x4/PSD/SC
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:56:21 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - emblem change..

Is it just me or does anyone else feel like they got the shaft on the new
emblems on tailgate(F250 SuperDuty) instead of just (F250) and the
(diesel...) on door.
Did they just start the run of trucks w/o new emblems on early builds or are
we special? :)

Ross Smith
99 F250 4x4/PSD/SC
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 18:05:43 -0600
From: Karl Nyhus
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Block Heater

> Keith Veren wrote:
> Also, Ford should add an indicator light
> to verify the heater is on, currently,
> there is no way to verify it is on (I
> suppose you could crawl under the vehicle
> and touch the engine block by the heater)
> until you start the vehicle and see it
> warm-up quickly. Any sugestions??

If I listen carefully, I can hear low whooshing or
hissing sounds begin when I plug the heater in. I
think you'd have to wait quite a while before you
could feel exterior metal warming up even if you
were willing to crawl under the truck.

I agree with you about the cord being too short. I
just take one glove off and stick my hand inside
the bumper opening to one side of the license
plate. (Possible your plug is located different
from mine. Try coming out the bumper rather than
threading through the grill)

Karl Nyhus, Minneapolis, MN--1997 Pacific Green
Ford F-150 SuperCab XL, SB, 4.6L V8, 4WD, 5-speed,
3.08, LT255/70R16D BFG All-Terrain T/A on steel,
Better Built toolbox, Line-X spray-in liner,
rust-proofed, undercoated
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 16:28:27 -0800
From: "Michael D. Sheridan"
Subject: FTE 97up - CD Player disks hot

Folks:

I believe I saw something here the other day about
CD player disks getting rather hot when the heater
is on and player is working in some trucks.

Might mention that in my new 99 Mazda B2500 the
same condition takes place. When I remove a Disk
from the player after having it playing for about
20 minutes with the heater on it IS very warm to
the touch.

It would appear that the situation has not been
corrected in the 99 Ford Ranger or Mazda B2500
as the are the same actually.

Michael
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 19:53:25 4
From: "Vaughn (VDB)"
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 SD V8

Does anybody out there have the 5.4 L
V8 in their 99 SD??
When I got my SD the oil on dipstick was
at full. Later on when I changed my oil and
put the 6 quarts in it only came up to about
a quarter inch or more from the full mark.
Now either I have the wrong dipstick and they
put about a quart too much in when new, or
it should have 7 quarts put in. (I doubt that though).
Has anybody else noticed this???

Thanks
Vaughn
1999 SD XLT 4X4 SC SB 5.4... White.
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Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 01:18:51 GMT
From: tlveik megavision.com (Thomas Veik)
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Block Heater

On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 18:05:43 -0600, Karl Nyhus
wrote:

> If I listen carefully, I can hear low whooshing or
> hissing sounds begin when I plug the heater in.

Hmmm... This sounds like your coolant is boiling. (at the heater at
least) I'm guessing that the block heater gets quite a bit hotter
than any engine surface that is in contact with the coolant does when
the coolant is circulating.

This brings up a question for me. Are there any drawbacks at all to
frequent routine use of the block heater? Like reduced coolant life
or whatever?

- --
Thomas Veik
tlveik megavision.com

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 14:37:31 -0800
From: "Ted Rodgers"
Subject: FTE 97up - Tonneaus

While waiting for my truck to be built I've been looking at flat tonneaus
for the bed. So far I've seen the Raider, which I believe is also sold as a
Leer, and the Snugtop. Both I would term adequate, but I was hoping for
something a little better quality. Anyone have any other choices?

Thanks,

Ted Rodgers



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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:38:58 -0800
From: "Neil Plocek"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Block Heater

I lived in the cold weather climate for 26 years and had no problems
routinely using the block heater. Just service your cooling system on a
regular basis.

This brings up a question for me. Are there any drawbacks at all to
frequent routine use of the block heater? Like reduced coolant life
or whatever?


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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 20:50:40 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - what temp for blk heat?

I plug it in anytime the temperature is below about +10 to +15 degrees F.
It really does help the vehicle warm-up quickly!


Keith


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From: RSnovi aol.com
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Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 6:56 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - what temp for blk heat?


>hey, at what temp do you guys up north usually plug in the block heater at
on
>the 99 PSD?
>
>thanks
>Ross Smith
>99 F250 4x4/PSD/SC
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Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 18:28:22 -0800
From: "Michael D. Sheridan"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Tonneaus

Ted Rodgers wrote:
>
> While waiting for my truck to be built I've been looking at flat tonneaus
> for the bed. So far I've seen the Raider, which I believe is also sold as a
> Leer, and the Snugtop. Both I would term adequate, but I was hoping for
> something a little better quality. Anyone have any other choices?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ted Rodgers

Hi Ted:

When installed properly the SNUGTOP is considered top of the line
where I come from. When I say installed properly I mean be very
careful who does the work as the SNUGTOP dealer that put mine
on didn't have a clue!

I complained to SNUGTOP and they arranged for the other dealer in
town to fix the MESS the first one made.

There are several little tricks to install these LIDS so they
won't leak. I have pictures to show you and anyone that wants
to see what to/not to do.

In my opinion some of the people that deal these things could
break an anvil!

Michael
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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 23:23:20 -0800
From: "Jose Pomposo Jr."
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Tonneaus

Ted, I would be very interested in seeing those pictures.

Jose
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