97up-list-digest Saturday, December 19 1998 Volume 01 : Number 314



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Fuel filtration
FTE 97up - PSD Exhaust Extention
Re: FTE 97up - PSD Exhaust Extention
Re: FTE 97up - PSD Exhaust Extention
Re: FTE 97up - Holds?
FTE 97up - Cross/Saddle Tool Boxes
FTE 97up - 4.6 Rough idle
FTE 97up - SD Anti-lock
Re: FTE 97up - SD Anti-lock
Re: FTE 97up - Cross/Saddle Tool Boxes
Re: FTE 97up - SD Anti-lock
Re: FTE 97up - SD Anti-lock
Re: FTE 97up - SD Anti-lock
Re: FTE 97up - PSD Exhaust Extention
FTE 97up - Re: Bud Feuless / Oil Filtration

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 06:31:06 EST
From: MadPoodle aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Fuel filtration


effect to the primary (usually 10 micron) and secondary (usually 30 micron)
fuel filters on commercial diesel engines.>>

Actually, the primary is usually 30 micron, and the secondary is anywhere
from 10 micron (factory) to 2 micron (Racor) per manufacturers reccomendation.
When Ford used the Racor from the factory, they were equipped with R-26S
elements, a 2 or 5 micron unit.

Scott

Various assorted vehicles, commercial and pleasure........ But ALL Fords

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 15:18:29 -0600
From: DanBrotzman
Subject: FTE 97up - PSD Exhaust Extention

I've been looking in auto parts stores for either a chrome or polished =
exhaust pipe extention for my 99 F350 CC, 4X4, but can only find =
standard automotive sizes. Truck parts dealers have the 5 and 6" stuff =
but that's way too large. Yah, yah, I know I don't NEED it but I want =
it...to make my wife happy! Any suggestions?

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:14:28 EST
From: RAMWORKER aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - PSD Exhaust Extention

Try a different truck parts store.
I got a 4" with a 4.25" swedge at Classic Chrome Plus, 3519 Irving Blvd.
Dallas, TX. WATS line 800-842-9942. No, I don't work for them but it is hard
to find these sizes, I only mentioned it as a possible resource for you.

Best Regards,
Robert

In a message dated 12/18/98 7:35:11 AM Central Standard Time,
no1windo frontiernet.net writes:

> I've been looking in auto parts stores for either a chrome or polished =
> exhaust pipe extention for my 99 F350 CC, 4X4, but can only find =
> standard automotive sizes. Truck parts dealers have the 5 and 6" stuff =
> but that's way too large. Yah, yah, I know I don't NEED it but I want =
> it...to make my wife happy! Any suggestions?
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:22:26 EST
From: RSnovi aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - PSD Exhaust Extention

In a message dated 12/18/98 8:35:11 AM Eastern Standard Time,
no1windo frontiernet.net writes:

Bassani proabably has something nice.

RS


I've been looking in auto parts stores for either a chrome or polished =
exhaust pipe extention for my 99 F350 CC, 4X4, but can only find =
standard automotive sizes. Truck parts dealers have the 5 and 6" stuff =
but that's way too large. Yah, yah, I know I don't NEED it but I want =
it...to make my wife happy! Any suggestions?
>>
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 07:48:20 -0800 (PST)
From: Neal Moon
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Holds?

does anybody know what all the items are that might be holding up an
order.

- -Neal
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DO YOU YAHOO!?

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 09:41:37 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: FTE 97up - Cross/Saddle Tool Boxes

"Haven't gotten your Super Duty delivered yet and already
buying things for it!", as my wife would so aptly put it.
(Actually, she's been quite good about all this.)

Anyway, I'd like to add a storage box just behind the cab to
act as sort of weather-proof trunk for tools or luggage or fishing
and hunting gear.

Anyone have any experience with cross/saddle boxes?

The Super Duty I've got on order is the F250 SC 4x4 short bed. And
been looking at Delta ($200) and Weather Guard ($400-$500+) boxes.
I'm 5'10" and considering the height of the truck, I'm thinking that loading
from the side over the bed rails wouldn't be practical without also adding
a small step? So if I have to load from inside the bed which box type would
be my best choice? And how about Weather Guard (Knaack) boxes, are
they worth the extra money?

Saddle boxes have a long single piece cover, whereas, cross boxes have two,
gull-wing type covers (ideally suited for accessing from the side of the
truck.)

Thanks,

Charles.


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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 12:58:42 -0800
From: Chris Sykes
Subject: FTE 97up - 4.6 Rough idle

I recently purchased a 1998 XLT Supercab 4.6L (Romeo)Automatic, LS 3.55.
The thing that concerns me is that it seems to vibrate a lot when it is
idling. It is a bigger engine than I'm used to but it also feels like a
not so consistent vibration. I thought perhaps it was idling too low.
When sitting with the transmission in drive and at a full stop the idle
speed is consistently between 600 and 650 RPM. Is this what it should be?
When I test drove a 99 it seemed to me that when I climbed in I couldn't
tell that the engine was running because it was so smooth, I guess I
expected the same thing in my 98.
Any thoughts or comments would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
Chris Sykes

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 16:21:09 -0500
From: Chad Royse
Subject: FTE 97up - SD Anti-lock

Has any one else noticed this:

When I am braking moderately hard, but not near lockup, and hit a bump in the
road the anti lock system kicks in. It won't disengage until I let off the
brake and reapply. I have two problems with this. One, It isn't needed in this
situation. It is merely being fooled by the bump. Two, it greatly reduces the
stopping ability of the truck. It might not make sense unless you've had it
happen before, but if you have, it should sound very familiar.

Anyone?

Thanks,
Chad

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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:11:56 -0800
From: "Michael D. Sheridan"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - SD Anti-lock

Chad Royse wrote:
>
> Has any one else noticed this:
>
> When I am braking moderately hard, but not near lockup, and hit a bump in the
> road the anti lock system kicks in. It won't disengage until I let off the
> brake and reapply. I have two problems with this. One, It isn't needed in this
> situation. It is merely being fooled by the bump. Two, it greatly reduces the
> stopping ability of the truck. It might not make sense unless you've had it
> happen before, but if you have, it should sound very familiar.
>
> Anyone?
>
> Thanks,
> Chad
>
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Hi Chad:

I think I had this happen with our 99 Mazda B2500 once while
entering the freeway and there were some bumps where the
lanes merged. It was a little scary and I didn't know what
was going on but the truck wasn't slowing correctly.

Michael
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 15:33:23 PST
From: "Frank Spor"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Cross/Saddle Tool Boxes

I personally like the weather guard model 114.....LOTS of room....for a
short truck, you should get model 124....$502.

Definetely worth the money, Great locks.... But they seem to be fair
traded....($537) everywhere I have called....

I have a delta steel tool box Mod#901000 on my current truck, and it is
also VERY serviceable,

But it does not match the weatherguard R174's, and They will match on my
new truck.
Frank

>"Haven't gotten your Super Duty delivered yet and already
>buying things for it!", as my wife would so aptly put it.
>(Actually, she's been quite good about all this.)
>
>Anyway, I'd like to add a storage box just behind the cab to
>act as sort of weather-proof trunk for tools or luggage or fishing
>and hunting gear.
>
>Anyone have any experience with cross/saddle boxes?
>
>The Super Duty I've got on order is the F250 SC 4x4 short bed. And
>been looking at Delta ($200) and Weather Guard ($400-$500+) boxes.
>I'm 5'10" and considering the height of the truck, I'm thinking that
loading
>from the side over the bed rails wouldn't be practical without also
adding
>a small step? So if I have to load from inside the bed which box type
would
>be my best choice? And how about Weather Guard (Knaack) boxes, are
>they worth the extra money?
>
>Saddle boxes have a long single piece cover, whereas, cross boxes have
two,
>gull-wing type covers (ideally suited for accessing from the side of
the
>truck.)
>
>Thanks,
>
>Charles.
>
>
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 18:46:00 -0500
From: "Todd E. Schreiber"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - SD Anti-lock

What you are describing can happen with any anti-lock braking system. ABS is not
superior in all areas to normal brakes, thats why its not on race cars, but it does
help in some situations. This is not one of them, but it is functioning properly.
Sorry.

Chad Royse wrote:

> Has any one else noticed this:
>
> When I am braking moderately hard, but not near lockup, and hit a bump in the
> road the anti lock system kicks in. It won't disengage until I let off the
> brake and reapply. I have two problems with this. One, It isn't needed in this
> situation. It is merely being fooled by the bump. Two, it greatly reduces the
> stopping ability of the truck. It might not make sense unless you've had it
> happen before, but if you have, it should sound very familiar.
>
> Anyone?
>
> Thanks,
> Chad
>
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 19:51:42 EST
From: SHartflhs aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - SD Anti-lock

I also have had problems with the anti-lock brakes and bumps in the road with
braking. Knew this about antilock before i ordered the truck. Thats why i
didnt get 4 wheel antilock. I hate them. Any competent driver can brake
better without them. Unfortunately the government and the insurance companies
dont agree.

Steve
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 20:01:12 -0500
From: "Todd E. Schreiber"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - SD Anti-lock

The insurance companies know that a competent driver can brake better than ABS,
but they also realize that a vast majority of drivers are not competent,
therefore, ABS will help most of their drivers.

SHartflhs aol.com wrote:

> I also have had problems with the anti-lock brakes and bumps in the road with
> braking. Knew this about antilock before i ordered the truck. Thats why i
> didnt get 4 wheel antilock. I hate them. Any competent driver can brake
> better without them. Unfortunately the government and the insurance companies
> dont agree.
>
> Steve
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:38:37 -0800
From: Nicolas Mosaquites III
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - PSD Exhaust Extention

Dan if you go to a muffler shop they will have a large variety to choose from. I recently had mine installed by one.
respectfully Nick M.

DanBrotzman wrote:

> I've been looking in auto parts stores for either a chrome or polished exhaust pipe extention for my 99 F350 CC, 4X4, but can only find standard automotive sizes. Truck parts dealers have the 5 and 6" stuff but that's way too large. Yah, yah, I know I don't NEED it but I want it...to make my wife happy! Any suggestions?
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 22:59:55 -0800
From: Rod Loewen
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Bud Feuless / Oil Filtration

I've looked after heavy industrial engines for years. I've been to
several manufacturers courses on maintenance. We run extended oil change
intervals with bypass filters and viscosity modifiers. But you can not
over emphasis the need for frequent oil analysis. Each manufacturer has
told us that no matter how clean the oil, in extended, constant hard
usage the molecular structure of the oil changes, forming long chains -
increased viscosity - and will not flow to all areas of the bearings
etc. as it should. Results have been expensive - for repairs but more so
for downtime.
Who tears down an engine to check it and then reassembles? We have
engines running with over 40,000 hours on them. We check cylinder wear
with a borescope, and take a sidecover off to drop a bearing cap or two
on our regular scheduled maintenance. I can't imagine tearing down an
engine with out knowing it is necessary.
By the way, I run a 96 PSD, 4X4, 5spd. with pre/post lube, no bypass....


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