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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Truck Transportation Bottleneck
FTE 97up - Truck Transportation Bottleneck
Re: FTE 97up - Crazt bout a Ford truck?**V10??**
Re: FTE 97up - A/C drain reroute
FTE 97up - Well Deserved
RE: FTE 97up - speedo calibration
FTE 97up - Scratches
Re: FTE 97up - speedo calibration
RE: FTE 97up - speedo calibration
FTE 97up - 99 F250 SD Questions
Re: FTE 97up - 99 F250 SD Questions
Re: FTE 97up - 99 F250 SD Questions
Re: FTE 97up - Truck Transportation Bottleneck
Re: FTE 97up - Truck Transportation Bottleneck
Re: FTE 97up - Truck Transportation Bottleneck
Re: FTE 97up - Truck Transportation Bottleneck

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 05:52:39 -0700
From: Norm Brown
Subject: FTE 97up - Truck Transportation Bottleneck

Dealer tells me that my '99 SD 250 LB CC PSD LARIET (etc), ordered the
end of October, has been built and is sitting in Kansas City (or St.
Louis?) awaiting transportation to the dealer.
Anyone have any additional details on this situation - i.e. recent
problem, continuting problem, resolution date.
Thanks
Norm

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 06:19:45 -0700
From: Norm Brown
Subject: FTE 97up - Truck Transportation Bottleneck

(If this is a duplicate, I apologize. I thought I had the Mime switch
turned off)

Dealer tells me that my '99 SD 250 LB CC PSD LARIET (etc), ordered the
end of October, has been built and is sitting in Kansas City (or St.
Louis?) awaiting transportation to the dealer.
Anyone have any additional details on this situation - i.e. recent
problem, continuting problem, resolution date.
Thanks
Norm

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 09:08:02 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Crazt bout a Ford truck?**V10??**

At 01:02 PM 12/11/98 +0800, you wrote:
>????Hello....Is anybody home????
>Ford has put the 4.9L (300cu.in.) in-line 6 cylinder inside the
>F-150's for quite awhile. They were in the F-150 trucks from pre-1978
>to 1996.
>
>

And it was available before that in a smaller displacement.


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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 08:59:49 -0600 CST
From: Dan kbselectric.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - A/C drain reroute

What kind of solution is that to not use an important component of
your vehicle....if you don't have anything contructive to add....then
don't.
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 08:53:29 -0700
From: "Matus, Scott A"
Subject: FTE 97up - Well Deserved

My sentiments exactly.

Thank you Nathan.

Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 20:01:04 -0600
From: "Bud Feuless & Miki Magara"
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: service experience

Gee, Nathan, why does it not surprise me that your dealership won that
award... ...

If they're all as helpful as you, they must be the best Ford dealership in
the country. I always enjoy and appreciate your informative responses to my
queries and others. I can tell by the fact that you are sometimes absent
for a bit, and then respond to a dozen posts or so at once, that you are
very busy, and that keeping up with this is not always easy for you. I want
to let you know how much I appreciate your commitment to all of us on this
NG and take the opportunity to wish you and yours the best this Holiday
Season and for the coming years.

And Best Wishes to everyone out there on the NG, who all add a ray of
brightness to my evening after a long day at work and provide a welcome
electronic getaway!

Cheers! - Bud


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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 09:03:56 -0800
From: "Kevin Mayer"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - speedo calibration

Hi Nathan,

Thank you so much for looking into this. I took my truck back to the dealer
yesterday, with documentation in hand. I am absolutely thrilled to say it
worked perfect. My MPG computer is back on track, and I can once again know
my proper speed without having to estimate it. Thanks again for taking the
time, and making the effort.

Kevin

Bear Creek Consulting
Kevin Mayer
phone 425-702-9500
fax 425-702-0421
Web Site Development, Marketing and Hosting
www.bearcreeknet.com



- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
[mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Union Auto
Sent: Monday, December 07, 1998 9:21 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - speedo calibration


To recalibrate the speedometer on a Super Duty you recalibrate the ABS
system. How this is done is different for 4WABS and RABS but basically you
have to have a Ford dealer do it. Tell them to use the New Generation Star
Tester. They will have to use the green system card. In the menu it lists
tire and axle ratio conversion. This is how you modify the speedo. You
might tell them to read Special service messages 11789, 11790, 11879, and
11880.

Nathan Bernard

- -----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Mayer
To: 97up-List Ford List
Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 11:44 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - speedo calibration, Nathan or other knowledgeable person
needed!


>Happy Thanksgiving to all.
>
>I have a 99 super duty psd that was ordered with the 265/75 tires. I
>replaced them with 285/75 tires, and the speedo is now off by a few mph. I
>have been getting a run around when I call dealers as to recalibration. One
>said you can not do because of smog. Another dealer tried to do it, but
>could not get the computer to accept his input. Several other dealers just
>said it could not be done. The most recent dealer I called said some 99's
>could be recalibrated, others had to have the gem module replaced.
>
>On the other hand, I've seen postings from several other people on the net
>that have had it done successfully, and with not that much anxiety. I am at
>the point where I would really appreciate some info from someone that
either
>knows the answer, or takes the time to find out. I plan on keeping this
>truck for many, many years, and I want to get this annoyance taken care of.
>I would be very grateful for any help.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Kevin
>
>
>Bear Creek Consulting
>Kevin Mayer
>phone 425-702-9500
>fax 425-702-0421
>Web Site Development, Marketing and Hosting
>www.bearcreeknet.com


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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:43:14 -0500
From: paul naas
Subject: FTE 97up - Scratches

ROBBCWZ,
Its ludicrist to me to that you actually would pay $30,000 plus for
a truck so you can or allow others to scratch, dent and stain it to show
the world that you understand the proper usage of a truck. Give me a
break! If thats how you see it then I am sure that there are an
abundant number of dealers out there that are willing and able to make
you a happy indivuadule. I do "use" my F-150 for everything under the
sun but, using care, I have not personally put any scraches, dents or
stains on my truck, they have all been applied by others basic
carelessness. Each and every one of them have made me a bit upset. It
is, in fact my truck.
Paul

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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 11:42:48 -0700
From: "Brandt Dennehy"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - speedo calibration

Kevin,
What did they charge you to recalibrate the speedometer? I assume you had
it done at the Ford Dealership. Thanks.

Brandt


- -----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Mayer
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 1998 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - speedo calibration


>Hi Nathan,
>
>Thank you so much for looking into this. I took my truck back to the dealer
>yesterday, with documentation in hand. I am absolutely thrilled to say it
>worked perfect. My MPG computer is back on track, and I can once again know
>my proper speed without having to estimate it. Thanks again for taking the
>time, and making the effort.
>
>Kevin
>
>Bear Creek Consulting
>Kevin Mayer
>phone 425-702-9500
>fax 425-702-0421
>Web Site Development, Marketing and Hosting
>www.bearcreeknet.com
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
>[mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Union Auto
>Sent: Monday, December 07, 1998 9:21 AM
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: Re: FTE 97up - speedo calibration
>
>
>To recalibrate the speedometer on a Super Duty you recalibrate the ABS
>system. How this is done is different for 4WABS and RABS but basically you
>have to have a Ford dealer do it. Tell them to use the New Generation Star
>Tester. They will have to use the green system card. In the menu it lists
>tire and axle ratio conversion. This is how you modify the speedo. You
>might tell them to read Special service messages 11789, 11790, 11879, and
>11880.
>
>Nathan Bernard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kevin Mayer
>To: 97up-List Ford List
>Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 11:44 AM
>Subject: FTE 97up - speedo calibration, Nathan or other knowledgeable
person
>needed!
>
>
>>Happy Thanksgiving to all.
>>
>>I have a 99 super duty psd that was ordered with the 265/75 tires. I
>>replaced them with 285/75 tires, and the speedo is now off by a few mph. I
>>have been getting a run around when I call dealers as to recalibration.
One
>>said you can not do because of smog. Another dealer tried to do it, but
>>could not get the computer to accept his input. Several other dealers just
>>said it could not be done. The most recent dealer I called said some 99's
>>could be recalibrated, others had to have the gem module replaced.
>>
>>On the other hand, I've seen postings from several other people on the net
>>that have had it done successfully, and with not that much anxiety. I am
at
>>the point where I would really appreciate some info from someone that
>either
>>knows the answer, or takes the time to find out. I plan on keeping this
>>truck for many, many years, and I want to get this annoyance taken care
of.
>>I would be very grateful for any help.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Kevin
>>
>>
>>Bear Creek Consulting
>>Kevin Mayer
>>phone 425-702-9500
>>fax 425-702-0421
>>Web Site Development, Marketing and Hosting
>>www.bearcreeknet.com
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 12:06:18 -0800
From: "Kevin Mayer"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - speedo calibration

Yes, it was the Ford Dealership in Kirkland Washington. I actually took it
to them about 5 weeks ago, and they tried to recalibrate, but failed.
Understandably, they charged me nothing for that attempt. When I took it
back to them, with documentation in hand, they succeeded in recalibrating.
When I picked it up, the service manager said "no charge, but I'm keeping
the documentation that you brought in". I was very pleasantly surprised at
this gesture. I think it was the right thing to do, but as we all know, the
right thing is not always what happens. I just wrote a note to the owner of
the dealership and expressed my satisfaction. I will use them for all
service work, unless they do something to loose my trust.

I might also add that it was comical when I called around to other
dealerships looking for someone that could recal the speedo. I heard
everything from a flat out, "you can't do it", to unmercifully lame excuses
like, "it will mess up the smog control. I'm always amazed at what I assume
the non-car/truck enthisiast must be willing to accept for justification.

Without Nathans help, I'd still be calling dealers.

Kevin

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From: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
[mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Brandt Dennehy
Sent: Friday, December 11, 1998 10:43 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - speedo calibration


Kevin,
What did they charge you to recalibrate the speedometer? I assume you had
it done at the Ford Dealership. Thanks.

Brandt


- -----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Mayer
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 1998 10:33 AM
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - speedo calibration


>Hi Nathan,
>
>Thank you so much for looking into this. I took my truck back to the dealer
>yesterday, with documentation in hand. I am absolutely thrilled to say it
>worked perfect. My MPG computer is back on track, and I can once again know
>my proper speed without having to estimate it. Thanks again for taking the
>time, and making the effort.
>
>Kevin
>
>Bear Creek Consulting
>Kevin Mayer
>phone 425-702-9500
>fax 425-702-0421
>Web Site Development, Marketing and Hosting
>www.bearcreeknet.com
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
>[mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Union Auto
>Sent: Monday, December 07, 1998 9:21 AM
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: Re: FTE 97up - speedo calibration
>
>
>To recalibrate the speedometer on a Super Duty you recalibrate the ABS
>system. How this is done is different for 4WABS and RABS but basically you
>have to have a Ford dealer do it. Tell them to use the New Generation Star
>Tester. They will have to use the green system card. In the menu it lists
>tire and axle ratio conversion. This is how you modify the speedo. You
>might tell them to read Special service messages 11789, 11790, 11879, and
>11880.
>
>Nathan Bernard
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kevin Mayer
>To: 97up-List Ford List
>Date: Wednesday, November 25, 1998 11:44 AM
>Subject: FTE 97up - speedo calibration, Nathan or other knowledgeable
person
>needed!
>
>
>>Happy Thanksgiving to all.
>>
>>I have a 99 super duty psd that was ordered with the 265/75 tires. I
>>replaced them with 285/75 tires, and the speedo is now off by a few mph. I
>>have been getting a run around when I call dealers as to recalibration.
One
>>said you can not do because of smog. Another dealer tried to do it, but
>>could not get the computer to accept his input. Several other dealers just
>>said it could not be done. The most recent dealer I called said some 99's
>>could be recalibrated, others had to have the gem module replaced.
>>
>>On the other hand, I've seen postings from several other people on the net
>>that have had it done successfully, and with not that much anxiety. I am
at
>>the point where I would really appreciate some info from someone that
>either
>>knows the answer, or takes the time to find out. I plan on keeping this
>>truck for many, many years, and I want to get this annoyance taken care
of.
>>I would be very grateful for any help.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Kevin
>>
>>
>>Bear Creek Consulting
>>Kevin Mayer
>>phone 425-702-9500
>>fax 425-702-0421
>>Web Site Development, Marketing and Hosting
>>www.bearcreeknet.com
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:49:00 -0500
From: "Benjamin R. MacRAE"
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 F250 SD Questions

Hello All,

I am new to the list here and thought I would introduce myself. I am a
student at Northern Michigan University in Marquette, MI and will be
graduating in May of 1999. Currently I drive a 1993 Jeep Cherokee, and am
looking to buy a new truck to replace it with. The new F250 SD is at the
top of my list.

I dont know much about the F-series, although they seem to be nice trucks.
I like the F-250 Super Duty much better than the standard F-150, mainly
because of the more aggressive styling, though the vehicle is not going to
be used to haul anything heavy, to speak of. It will mainly be my 4wd
commuter vehicle to go to work. I know the ride will suffer slightly with
the 250SD over the 150 but the one I drove seemed respectable and I could
easily live with it, if not just for the high seating position:>)

The exact vehicle I am intersested in would be a 1999 F-250 Super Duty 4wd,
regular cab, 5.4 Liter Triton, automatic trans, 4 wheel ABS, XLT trim, with
the trailer tow and off road packages, keyless entry, and some other misc
items......obviously built to order specially as the 4WABS is probably not
real common.

Took an F-250 SD XLT 4wd that was very close to this for a ride (no 4WABS,
wrong color, etc)....I liked it alot. Nice truck in all respects!!! Only
complaint was a noise at about 40 mph that came into the cab--not sure if
it was the Firestone Steeltex tires or something strange about the
drivetrain on this particular truck (it sounded like I had hit the warning
"grooved" strips on the edge of the freeway shoulder)...but the road was
smooth. Only happeed very briefly, as I passed through some speed around
40. Didnt make it at higher or lower speeds...



Some questions I have about the new Super Duty F250s are:

1. The noise I experienced, is this normal and to be expected?

2. Are there any areas of concern that I should be aware of with this
particular model of truck?

3. Which is the more reliable 4wd system? The lever or optional electric
4wd (both have manual hubs). I understand they are both "on the fly" as
long as the front hubs are locked in.

4. Dealer said to expect 4 months to order one. Does this sound about right?

5. Is the XLT bench seat pretty comfortable, or would I be better off with
the captains chairs? Both SDs on the lot had the captains chairs.

6. Anything else I should know?????


All information will be helpful to me.....please email me directly if you'd
like, in order to conserve bandwidth.

Thanks in advance...I appreciate the help!



Ben MacRAE


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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 15:24:24 -0600
From: "Charles Abraham"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 F250 SD Questions

Since I'm still waiting for my Super Duty, I can't comment on the noise - but others
here can and have in the past.
Delivery time sounds about right; my dealer told me 3 - 5 months, with the possibility
of 7. Seems though that orders made through truck only dealers or fleet orders get top
priority. Also, orders with the following options seem to get shorter delivery times:
PSD (diesel), long bed, and NOT being a Lariat XLT (that's what mine is).

Some heads-up on options, don't forget to order a spare tire and rear bumper, these
are not standard (unless you don't want them). The cab is a big step up and down, so
make sure you order running boards (not sure it comes standard on the XLT). Engines,
the 5.4L V8 has had several complaints made about noise at cold startup, they refer to
as "piston slap". Also, the Super Duty's 5.4L is last year's model ('98) - not the
newer and more powerful 5.4L now only available on the new '99 Light Duty F-series.
This is one of the reasons I picked a V10.

Others I'm sure will add a lot more to this.

Hope this helps,

Charles.

Benjamin R. MacRAE wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I am new to the list here and thought I would introduce myself. I am a
> student at Northern Michigan University in Marquette, MI and will be
> graduating in May of 1999. Currently I drive a 1993 Jeep Cherokee, and am
> looking to buy a new truck to replace it with. The new F250 SD is at the
> top of my list.
>
> I dont know much about the F-series, although they seem to be nice trucks.
> I like the F-250 Super Duty much better than the standard F-150, mainly
> because of the more aggressive styling, though the vehicle is not going to
> be used to haul anything heavy, to speak of. It will mainly be my 4wd
> commuter vehicle to go to work. I know the ride will suffer slightly with
> the 250SD over the 150 but the one I drove seemed respectable and I could
> easily live with it, if not just for the high seating position:>)
>
> The exact vehicle I am intersested in would be a 1999 F-250 Super Duty 4wd,
> regular cab, 5.4 Liter Triton, automatic trans, 4 wheel ABS, XLT trim, with
> the trailer tow and off road packages, keyless entry, and some other misc
> items......obviously built to order specially as the 4WABS is probably not
> real common.
>
> Took an F-250 SD XLT 4wd that was very close to this for a ride (no 4WABS,
> wrong color, etc)....I liked it alot. Nice truck in all respects!!! Only
> complaint was a noise at about 40 mph that came into the cab--not sure if
> it was the Firestone Steeltex tires or something strange about the
> drivetrain on this particular truck (it sounded like I had hit the warning
> "grooved" strips on the edge of the freeway shoulder)...but the road was
> smooth. Only happeed very briefly, as I passed through some speed around
> 40. Didnt make it at higher or lower speeds...
>
> Some questions I have about the new Super Duty F250s are:
>
> 1. The noise I experienced, is this normal and to be expected?
>
> 2. Are there any areas of concern that I should be aware of with this
> particular model of truck?
>
> 3. Which is the more reliable 4wd system? The lever or optional electric
> 4wd (both have manual hubs). I understand they are both "on the fly" as
> long as the front hubs are locked in.
>
> 4. Dealer said to expect 4 months to order one. Does this sound about right?
>
> 5. Is the XLT bench seat pretty comfortable, or would I be better off with
> the captains chairs? Both SDs on the lot had the captains chairs.
>
> 6. Anything else I should know?????
>
> All information will be helpful to me.....please email me directly if you'd
> like, in order to conserve bandwidth.
>
> Thanks in advance...I appreciate the help!
>
> Ben MacRAE
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 17:32:24 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 F250 SD Questions

Check out the V-10. Better resale value, more power, gas milage about the
same.


Keith

- -----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin R. MacRAE
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, December 11, 1998 3:48 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 F250 SD Questions


>Hello All,
>
>I am new to the list here and thought I would introduce myself. I am a
>student at Northern Michigan University in Marquette, MI and will be
>graduating in May of 1999. Currently I drive a 1993 Jeep Cherokee, and am
>looking to buy a new truck to replace it with. The new F250 SD is at the
>top of my list.
>
>I dont know much about the F-series, although they seem to be nice trucks.
>I like the F-250 Super Duty much better than the standard F-150, mainly
>because of the more aggressive styling, though the vehicle is not going to
>be used to haul anything heavy, to speak of. It will mainly be my 4wd
>commuter vehicle to go to work. I know the ride will suffer slightly with
>the 250SD over the 150 but the one I drove seemed respectable and I could
>easily live with it, if not just for the high seating position:>)
>
>The exact vehicle I am intersested in would be a 1999 F-250 Super Duty 4wd,
>regular cab, 5.4 Liter Triton, automatic trans, 4 wheel ABS, XLT trim, with
>the trailer tow and off road packages, keyless entry, and some other misc
>items......obviously built to order specially as the 4WABS is probably not
>real common.
>
>Took an F-250 SD XLT 4wd that was very close to this for a ride (no 4WABS,
>wrong color, etc)....I liked it alot. Nice truck in all respects!!! Only
>complaint was a noise at about 40 mph that came into the cab--not sure if
>it was the Firestone Steeltex tires or something strange about the
>drivetrain on this particular truck (it sounded like I had hit the warning
>"grooved" strips on the edge of the freeway shoulder)...but the road was
>smooth. Only happeed very briefly, as I passed through some speed around
>40. Didnt make it at higher or lower speeds...
>
>
>
>Some questions I have about the new Super Duty F250s are:
>
>1. The noise I experienced, is this normal and to be expected?
>
>2. Are there any areas of concern that I should be aware of with this
>particular model of truck?
>
>3. Which is the more reliable 4wd system? The lever or optional electric
>4wd (both have manual hubs). I understand they are both "on the fly" as
>long as the front hubs are locked in.
>
>4. Dealer said to expect 4 months to order one. Does this sound about
right?
>
>5. Is the XLT bench seat pretty comfortable, or would I be better off with
>the captains chairs? Both SDs on the lot had the captains chairs.
>
>6. Anything else I should know?????
>
>
>All information will be helpful to me.....please email me directly if you'd
>like, in order to conserve bandwidth.
>
>Thanks in advance...I appreciate the help!
>
>
>
>Ben MacRAE
>
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 17:01:47 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Truck Transportation Bottleneck

>From what I've heard expect vehicles to be 2-3 weeks late if they come from
KC due to a shortage of truck drivers.

Nathan Bernard

- -----Original Message-----
From: Norm Brown
To: 97up-list
Date: Friday, December 11, 1998 6:07 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Truck Transportation Bottleneck


>Dealer tells me that my '99 SD 250 LB CC PSD LARIET (etc), ordered the
>end of October, has been built and is sitting in Kansas City (or St.
>Louis?) awaiting transportation to the dealer.
>Anyone have any additional details on this situation - i.e. recent
>problem, continuting problem, resolution date.
>Thanks
>Norm


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Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1998 06:05:16 +1100 (EST)
From: Mark Sapp
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Truck Transportation Bottleneck

I don't think that the F-250 SD is built in the Kansas City plant.
The SD trucks are built in Kentucky. Your dealer is probably not
being completely truthful. I just received my 1999 F-150 SC 5.4L 4x4
ORP last week. It was two weeks ahead of schedule, and it came from
the Kansas City plant.




- ---Norm Brown wrote:
>
> Dealer tells me that my '99 SD 250 LB CC PSD LARIET (etc), ordered the
> end of October, has been built and is sitting in Kansas City (or St.
> Louis?) awaiting transportation to the dealer.
> Anyone have any additional details on this situation - i.e. recent
> problem, continuting problem, resolution date.
> Thanks
> Norm
>
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 19:26:07 -0500
From: "Benjamin R. MacRAE"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Truck Transportation Bottleneck

Wow, these order and build times are much faster than what I have
heard.....the small dealer here at school said they special ordered a
couple of 250 SDs for customers the first week of August and have yet to
see them.

I think I might go to the BIG dealer at home (about 5 times as
large)....might get it a little quicker that way.....:>)


Ben
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 17:54:41 -0800
From: "Matt Bailey"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Truck Transportation Bottleneck

I ordered my 99 F-250 SD SC XLT V10 Oct. 2, just received it Dec. 7. The
dealership told me it would be 8-10 weeks, it turned out to be 9 weeks.
Pretty good timing and yes... I love it!
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