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In this issue:

FTE 97up - ADMIN: Classics4sale
FTE 97up - taller tire and miles traveled
FTE 97up - Engine noise
Re: FTE 97up - Engine noise
RE: FTE 97up - Engine noise
Re: FTE 97up - Engine noise
Re: FTE 97up - taller tire and miles traveled
FTE 97up - limited slip?
Re: FTE 97up - taller tire and miles traveled
Re: FTE 97up - Engine noise
Re: FTE 97up - limited slip?
Re: FTE 97up - limited slip?

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 07:02:14 -0500
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Classics4sale

Dear Ford Truck Enthusiasts list members:

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 05:56:30 PST
From: "Jordan Rautiola"
Subject: FTE 97up - taller tire and miles traveled

My previous post said that my new tires (285/75-16) are 8% taller than
the factory tires (255/75-16). This is not true -- the factory tires
are 255/70-16, not 75s. The new ones are 8% taller, therefore I
calculated that I travel 8% further than what my odometer indicates.

'99 XLT 4x4 SC LB 5.4L

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 08:30:39 -0600
From: Zach Whitehill
Subject: FTE 97up - Engine noise

Hello everyone,
I ordered my 99' F150 SC, SB, 5.4, 3.73's, in July and it still wasn't
here ny the 15th of November so I had my dealer trade with another
dealer and got a truck that was extremely close to what I ordered.
Anyway I love the truck, exempt for a few things. First off above 3,000
rpm the truck is very noisy inside the truck, a problem that I didn't
have with my 97'. Also at higher rpm's it makes a ticking noise that
sounds like its coming from underneath the steering wheel. And finally
the only other thing I don't like is that when I set the cruise it kicks
down on every little hill I come to and half the time it won't even pull
itself at 74 miles per hour going down the interstate. I've already had
3-inch exhaust and a K&N air filter put on hoping to improve the
performance with little success. If anyone has any other advice please
let me know...

Thanks
Zach
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 10:33:53 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Engine noise

Zach Whitehill wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
> I ordered my 99' F150 SC, SB, 5.4, 3.73's, in July and it still wasn't
> here ny the 15th of November so I had my dealer trade with another
> dealer and got a truck that was extremely close to what I ordered.
> Anyway I love the truck, exempt for a few things. First off above 3,000
> rpm the truck is very noisy inside the truck, a problem that I didn't
> have with my 97'. Also at higher rpm's it makes a ticking noise that
> sounds like its coming from underneath the steering wheel. And finally
> the only other thing I don't like is that when I set the cruise it kicks
> down on every little hill I come to and half the time it won't even pull
> itself at 74 miles per hour going down the interstate. I've already had
> 3-inch exhaust and a K&N air filter put on hoping to improve the
> performance with little success. If anyone has any other advice please
> let me know...
>
> Thanks
> Zach
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Zach,

What kind of noise do you mean above 3000rpm? Is the
ticking noise speed dependent or rpm dependent? Does it
kick down to 3rd or is it just the torque converter
unlocking? What do you mean it won't even pull itself at 74
mph?

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 08:56:19 -0800
From: Tim Mattson
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Engine noise

Zach,

I have a 99 F150 SC, SB, 5.4 w/3.73 purchased in October. I have not
experienced these types of issues except for the cruise control kick
down. When in cruise control on a moderate grade doing approx 70mph the
transmission will kick out of OD. I have added a Gibson 'super truck'
cat back and K&N filter with out any real change. I have just attributed
this to gearing.

Hope this helps...

Tim Mattson

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From: Zach Whitehill [mailto:geckocomm earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 6:31 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Engine noise


Hello everyone,
I ordered my 99' F150 SC, SB, 5.4, 3.73's, in July and it still wasn't
here ny the 15th of November so I had my dealer trade with another
dealer and got a truck that was extremely close to what I ordered.
Anyway I love the truck, exempt for a few things. First off above 3,000
rpm the truck is very noisy inside the truck, a problem that I didn't
have with my 97'. Also at higher rpm's it makes a ticking noise that
sounds like its coming from underneath the steering wheel. And finally
the only other thing I don't like is that when I set the cruise it kicks
down on every little hill I come to and half the time it won't even pull
itself at 74 miles per hour going down the interstate. I've already had
3-inch exhaust and a K&N air filter put on hoping to improve the
performance with little success. If anyone has any other advice please
let me know...

Thanks
Zach
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 11:00:16 -0600
From: Zach Whitehill
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Engine noise

Jean Marc Chartier wrote:
>
> Zach Whitehill wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> > I ordered my 99' F150 SC, SB, 5.4, 3.73's, in July and it still wasn't
> > here ny the 15th of November so I had my dealer trade with another
> > dealer and got a truck that was extremely close to what I ordered.
> > Anyway I love the truck, exempt for a few things. First off above 3,000
> > rpm the truck is very noisy inside the truck, a problem that I didn't
> > have with my 97'. Also at higher rpm's it makes a ticking noise that
> > sounds like its coming from underneath the steering wheel. And finally
> > the only other thing I don't like is that when I set the cruise it kicks
> > down on every little hill I come to and half the time it won't even pull
> > itself at 74 miles per hour going down the interstate. I've already had
> > 3-inch exhaust and a K&N air filter put on hoping to improve the
> > performance with little success. If anyone has any other advice please
> > let me know...
> >
> > Thanks
> > Zach
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>
> Zach,
>
> What kind of noise do you mean above 3000rpm? Is the
> ticking noise speed dependent or rpm dependent? Does it
> kick down to 3rd or is it just the torque converter
> unlocking? What do you mean it won't even pull itself at 74
> mph?
>
> Regards
>
> Jean Marc Chartier
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I don't know if you've ever heard a turbo thats went bad on a motor.
Actually something that more people might be familiar with is a lifter
sticking. Thats what the noise reminds me of. The noise is rpm
dependent. It kicks down to third on every hill and what I mean by not
pulling itself, is that if i set the cruise on 74 it will drop down to
around 69 or 70, then kick down, then it won't pull itself back until
the road flatens back out. I had a 97 F150 with the 5.4 and didn't have
any of these problems. I'm just curious as to how to resolve them.

Thanks
Zach
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 10:01:51 -0700
From: "Brandt Dennehy"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - taller tire and miles traveled

Jordan,
I currently have 235/85 on my 99 superduty v10 3.73 ratio.....I'm also
considering 285/75
tires....they will be about 4% taller. I figure they will change my axle
ratio to 3.60. Anyway, what axle ratio do you have and do you notice a
decrease in power? I heard a vicious rumor that a guy with a Dodge V-10 put
a set of 285/75 on to replace the small 245/75 and lost a lot of
power.....he can still go like hell down the highway, but when he hits a
hill....down goes the speedometer. Any other feedback is more than welcome.
Thanks.

Brandt

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From: Jordan Rautiola
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, December 01, 1998 7:11 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - taller tire and miles traveled


>My previous post said that my new tires (285/75-16) are 8% taller than
>the factory tires (255/75-16). This is not true -- the factory tires
>are 255/70-16, not 75s. The new ones are 8% taller, therefore I
>calculated that I travel 8% further than what my odometer indicates.
>
>'99 XLT 4x4 SC LB 5.4L
>
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 14:10:14 -0800
From: "Jose Pomposo Jr."
Subject: FTE 97up - limited slip?

Hi everyone,
I just bought a new 1998 F-150 SuperCab XLT w\ 5.4L V8, 3.55 Limited
Slip Differential and Tow Package.
To be honest I purchased the truck because it was a Ford, a SuperCab, and I
loved the color(Moonlight Blue), so I was surprised when I went home and
actually read the sticker. It said I have the 3.55 LS Diff. What is the
function of this? Does it prevent skidding when accelerating? If so why
did I feel a shudder when I accelerated pretty hard and turned after it had
just rained? Also, I have the radio with cassete but it does not have the
CD changer buttons. Can I still add a CD changer?

Thanks in advance,
Jose Pomposo

BTW, I love my truck and the color is a real head turner!

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 18:22:04 -0500
From: Bill
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - taller tire and miles traveled

Brandt Dennehy wrote:

> Jordan,
> I currently have 235/85 on my 99 superduty v10 3.73 ratio.....I'm also
> considering 285/75
> tires....they will be about 4% taller.

I have a F-250 SD, V10 w/4.30 ls, 2WD ordered and was thinking about installing
285/75/16 to get the an effective axle ratio of 4.15. Question does anyone know
if the speedometer can be recalibrated to this tire size???

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 18:31:08 -0500
From: Bill
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Engine noise

Zach Whitehill wrote:

>
> And finally the only other thing I don't like is that when I set the
> cruise it kicks
> down on every little hill I come to and half the time it won't even pull
> itself at 74 miles per hour going down the interstate.

Make sure it has a 5.4 engine in it, just because the sticker shows it,
doesn't mean that's what was installed.

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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 21:06:50 -0500
From: Jean Marc Chartier
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - limited slip?

"Jose Pomposo Jr." wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
> I just bought a new 1998 F-150 SuperCab XLT w\ 5.4L V8, 3.55 Limited
> Slip Differential and Tow Package.
> To be honest I purchased the truck because it was a Ford, a SuperCab, and I
> loved the color(Moonlight Blue), so I was surprised when I went home and
> actually read the sticker. It said I have the 3.55 LS Diff. What is the
> function of this? Does it prevent skidding when accelerating? If so why
> did I feel a shudder when I accelerated pretty hard and turned after it had
> just rained? Also, I have the radio with cassete but it does not have the
> CD changer buttons. Can I still add a CD changer?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jose Pomposo
>
> BTW, I love my truck and the color is a real head turner!
>
Jose,

Simply puy the LSD serves to increase traction by making
both rear wheels turn under most situations. To some extent
it will prevent skidding because of increased traction, but
under certain conditions it can be worse. When turning a
corner if both wheels break free you could go into a spin.
On a heavly crowned road you could feel the rear end try to
fall off the road when it is slippery. It should not
shudder when you turn, have your dealer look at it. The
only CD changer you can add is one that conects via the
antenna.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 21:58:11 -0600
From: cody chambers
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - limited slip?

what the limited slip is, is when one wheel is spinning the other wheel will turn
giving you more traction. It also applies if you are stuck in a mud or something
and one wheel will not spin but the other wheel will the locking diff. causes
both wheels to turn regardless if the wheel is stuck or not
this option should be a help not a hinder
i have a '97 5.4 liter xl long bed and wheel spin is terrible, i wish i had the
locking diff. :)

Jean Marc Chartier wrote:

> "Jose Pomposo Jr." wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> > I just bought a new 1998 F-150 SuperCab XLT w\ 5.4L V8, 3.55 Limited
> > Slip Differential and Tow Package.
> > To be honest I purchased the truck because it was a Ford, a SuperCab, and I
> > loved the color(Moonlight Blue), so I was surprised when I went home and
> > actually read the sticker. It said I have the 3.55 LS Diff. What is the
> > function of this? Does it prevent skidding when accelerating? If so why
> > did I feel a shudder when I accelerated pretty hard and turned after it had
> > just rained? Also, I have the radio with cassete but it does not have the
> > CD changer buttons. Can I still add a CD changer?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Jose Pomposo
> >
> > BTW, I love my truck and the color is a real head turner!
> >
> Jose,
>
> Simply puy the LSD serves to increase traction by making
> both rear wheels turn under most situations. To some extent
> it will prevent skidding because of increased traction, but
> under certain conditions it can be worse. When turning a
> corner if both wheels break free you could go into a spin.
> On a heavly crowned road you could feel the rear end try to
> fall off the road when it is slippery. It should not
> shudder when you turn, have your dealer look at it. The....

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