97up-list-digest Tuesday, December 1 1998 Volume 01 : Number 295



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Re: brake job incriments?
FTE 97up - Re: F250 PSD Under Dash Rattle
RE: FTE 97up - brake job incriments?
FTE 97up - Brake light
FTE 97up - F250 PSD Under Dash Rattle
FTE 97up - fuel economy on my new truck
FTE 97up - engine cooling fan
Re: FTE 97up - engine cooling fan
Re: FTE 97up - F250 PSD Under Dash Rattle

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 06:48:45 -0500
From: Lee Haefele
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: brake job incriments?

What about the rubber stop bumper on the E-brake foot pedal? The one on
my SD falls off regularily, causing the "brake" light to come on.
Lee Haefele
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 06:30:03 -0500
From: Philip Crooke
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: F250 PSD Under Dash Rattle


steering column - in my 99 F20 PSD. The noise reminds me of the noise
one might hear when stacking dishes. After a day or two, the noise
disappeared, but returned a couple of days ago.

I only hear the rattle whenever I hit a bump in the road. But, not
every bump will produce the noise. Some minor bumps will produce the
noise while severe potholes often will not. I tried to determine if a
road bump by the right or left wheel produced the noise, but it appears
to be completely random.

I haven't been able to find anything under the dash that might be
banging together to make the noise, and I am completely stumped. I know
that if I take the truck to the dealer it will be there for a couple of
days - or longer- and they won't find it either.

Has anyone else heard a similar noise in their F250 PSD.>>

I have a similar noise on my 1998 Ranger 4x4. Over gravel roads I hear a
knocking sound in the dash around the steering column. On paved roads
roads, it seems to depend on the type of bump. I am planning to take it
to the dealer.

PC



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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:46:16 -0500
From: "Suarez, William"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - brake job incriments?

I can't comment on other folks turcks Matt, but my 97 F150 4x4 has 42K on
the factory brakes and I have a good deal of both pad (front) and shoe
(rear) material left.

15-20K for brake service seems like a very short window to me.

Bill Suarez

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From: Matt Adams [mailto:mattbert pcisys.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 1998 4:32 PM
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Subject: FTE 97up - brake job incriments?


I was wondering when everyone was getting their brakes serviced? My brake
light came on, about 19,000, brakes work fine, plenty of fluid, I called the
dealer (I will be going in next week), and he said that most F-150's had
been having brake work done between 15,000-20,000, this wasn't covered under
warranty. Any guidance would be appreciated.


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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:19:51 -0500
From: Flipper
Subject: FTE 97up - Brake light

Had the brake light stay on after starting in morning.Turned out to be a
small rubber bumper or stop,which actuates the light switch on the
parking brake lever,had fallen out.This was on a 99 f-250.I had found
the bumper on the floor but didnt know where it came from.It took the
dealer about a minute to fix it.When this happens it also deactivates
the cruise control.The dealer had said that they had seen a few of these
and gluen them back in when they repair it

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:56:42 PST
From: "Jeigh Cee"
Subject: FTE 97up - F250 PSD Under Dash Rattle

Thanks for this tip. I've done a bit of 'banging around' as suggested,
but haven't found anything yet. The source has to be under the driver's
side dash, or just on the other side of the firewall.

Jeigh


>Try GENTLY using a rubber mallet [or your fist] and bump the dash
>below the instrument panel, the top dash pad, steering column, >floor,
door, center console, etc. while listening for the rattle >(engine
off).




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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:03:33 PST
From: "Jordan Rautiola"
Subject: FTE 97up - fuel economy on my new truck

Between 500 and 750 miles on the truck, I obtained 15mpg with maybe 80%
of the mileage on freeway (70-75mph). Not only do the taller tires look
great, I think they're helping mpg, especially with the 5.4L with such a
low rpm torque curve. To get an accurate mpg figure, I add 8% to my
miles traveled, since the tires are 8% larger diam. than the factory
255/75-16 tires. I assume this is correct.

Jordan Rautiola
Hersey, Michigan
'99 F150 XLT 4x4 SC LB 5.4L Auto ARE cap 285/75-16 Dunlops

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:14:34 PST
From: "Jordan Rautiola"
Subject: FTE 97up - engine cooling fan

Any thermal engineers on the list? Hot engines burn more efficiently
(and cleanly) than do cold ones. The F150 has a viscous fan that blows
air on to a cold engine, extending warm-up time. Emissions are highest
when engine is not up to operating temp. Why not go with a
thermostatically operated electrically driven fan? There must be one or
more good reasons. I love my truck. Had 35% tint put on the front side
windows, looks really nice.

Jordan Rautiola
Hersey, Michigan
'99 F150 XLT 4x4 SC LB 5.4L auto cap & big tires

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:24:07 -0800
From: Ken Peterson
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - engine cooling fan

>Any thermal engineers on the list? Hot engines burn more efficiently
>(and cleanly) than do cold ones. The F150 has a viscous fan that blows
>air on to a cold engine, extending warm-up time.

But not much. The temperature of the engine should be controlled by the
thermostat. When the engine is cold, almost no water flows thru the
radiator anyway, until the thermostat opens. Then it opens and closes
according to how much cooling the engine needs. That's why your water-temp
gauge on the dash doesn't move much. All summer long, mine came quickly up
to a certain reading, then stabilized, not varying much with the weather or
use of the truck (pulling mountain roads, etc.).

Once you're moving, ram-air does most of the cooling, anyway. On my Subaru,
the fans never come on except when I'm stopped in traffic.

For my part, I wonder what evergy (mpg) savings there would be if there
were an electric fan. This was one of the big motivations for small cars
that get 30+ mpg to use electric. Maybe on this big truck, it would
increase the mileage only by 0.2mpg, who knows....

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Ken Peterson, Portland, OR
1998 F-250LD Lariat, extended cab, short bed, 4X2, 5.4l, class-3 tow options
LT245X16/steel rims, 4W disks + ABS, load-leveling rear suspension.
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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 23:14:24 EST
From: BigFords1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F250 PSD Under Dash Rattle

Maybe it's your keys rattling. Just kidding, I know your not that stupid, but
I couldn't resist.
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