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In this issue:

RE: FTE 97up - Oil filter location - 1999 F-150 4.
FTE 97up - 1999 F350 Crew Cab Accessories
FTE 97up - engine cooling fan
RE: FTE 97up - 1999 F350 Crew Cab Accessories
RE: FTE 97up - 1999 F350 Crew Cab Accessories
Re: FTE 97up - Oil filter location - 1999 F-150 4.
RE: FTE 97up - 1999 F350 Crew Cab Accessories
Re: FTE 97up - Engine cooling fan operation (real truck - rare)
Re: FTE 97up - 1999 F350 Camper package???
Re: FTE 97up - Engine cooling fan operation
Re: FTE 97up - 1999 F350 Camper package???
FTE 97up - tracking rail cars on the web.
FTE 97up - limited slip swap
Re: FTE 97up - tracking rail cars on the web.
Re: FTE 97up - limited slip swap
Re: FTE 97up - engine cooling fan
Re: FTE 97up - limited slip swap

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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:55:18 -0500
From: "Suarez, William"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Oil filter location - 1999 F-150 4.

My '97 F150 4.6L 4x4 has the filter in the same location. I believe all the
"light duty" models put them there.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Lou Mallia [mailto:lmallia ibm.net]
Sent: Monday, November 23, 1998 9:59 PM
To: Ford Trucks
Subject: FTE 97up - Oil filter location - 1999 F-150 4.


I just performed my first oil change on my new 1999 F-150 4.6L 4x4 this
past weekend, and got the most wonderful surprise. I searched both
sides of the engine block for the oil filter, to no avail, and was
really scratching my head when I glanced up under the front bumper and
there it was!! This oil filter is in the most easily accessible
location I've seen since my wife owned a 1978 Subaru! Since when has
Ford been using oil filter relocation setups on their trucks? I love
it!!

Lou

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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:47:38 -0600
From: DanBrotzman
Subject: FTE 97up - 1999 F350 Crew Cab Accessories

I have a 1999 F350 crew cab 4x4 SRW on order and have been shopping for =
a month now looking for full length running boards (wheel well to wheel =
well), a frame mounted heavy duty chrome brush gaurd, and side window =
wind deflectors. Every time I go to the local parts stores or look at =
parts suppliers on the net I can't seem to find these items specific to =
this model truck. Can any one offer some advice where these items can be =
purchased?
Dan Brotzman
Tigerton WI

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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 05:49:36 PST
From: "Jordan Rautiola"
Subject: FTE 97up - engine cooling fan

Perhaps my earlier post was inaccurate, in that I assumed that the fan
is electric because it does not follow engine rpms when cold. It may
well be engine-driven with a viscous coupling -- anyone know? For now I
am not planning to add step bars because without them, anyone climbing
into the truck immediately notices how high it sits and how "big" it
really is. The extra inches that the 285/75 Dunlops made in height and
filling the wheel wells was worth their price. A guy at the tire store
said "finally somebody who's putting on some decent size tires on a
Ford". This truck is everything that I had hoped for.

'99 F150 XLT 4x4 SC LB 5.4L auto, dark tor red/dark grey w/ARE CH cap

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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:18:43 -0500
From: "Suarez, William"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 1999 F350 Crew Cab Accessories

Dan,

I would not suggest you use a one piece running board as the cab and body
are independantly mounted and a one piece running board will actually
inhibit the two from moving separately.

You might try Performance Products at:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.performanceproducts.com/home.asp

Regards,

Bill Suarez

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From: DanBrotzman [mailto:no1windo frontiernet.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 8:48 AM
To: '97up-list-digest fordtrucks.com'
Subject: FTE 97up - 1999 F350 Crew Cab Accessories


I have a 1999 F350 crew cab 4x4 SRW on order and have been shopping for a
month now looking for full length running boards (wheel well to wheel well),
a frame mounted heavy duty chrome brush gaurd, and side window wind
deflectors. Every time I go to the local parts stores or look at parts
suppliers on the net I can't seem to find these items specific to this model
truck. Can any one offer some advice where these items can be purchased?
Dan Brotzman
Tigerton WI

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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:56:44 -0600
From: "Jeff Schapker"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 1999 F350 Crew Cab Accessories

I bought my Ventshades from Summit Racing Equipment. www.summitracing.com
You might want to take a look at Warn
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.warn.com/html/mtingsys/mtgsys.htm for a heavy duty brush guard.
Jeff

I have a 1999 F350 crew cab 4x4 SRW on order and have been shopping for a
month now looking for full length running boards (wheel well to wheel well),
a frame mounted heavy duty chrome brush gaurd, and side window wind
deflectors. Every time I go to the local parts stores or look at parts
suppliers on the net I can't seem to find these items specific to this model
truck. Can any one offer some advice where these items can be purchased?
Dan Brotzman
Tigerton WI



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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:01:23 -0600
From: "Mike Fairleigh"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Oil filter location - 1999 F-150 4.

Only on 4x4 models. My '98 4x2's filter location is "traditional", back
next to the oil pan.

Mike Fairleigh
mikef sky.net
...Always remembering their sacrifices.

>I believe all the
>"light duty" models put them there.



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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 09:07:46 -0600
From: "Jeff Schapker"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - 1999 F350 Crew Cab Accessories

Check out this site for full length running boards. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.j-jent.com/
Jeff



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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:08:41 -0500
From: "Keith Veren"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Engine cooling fan operation (real truck - rare)

I believe the author was referring to the fact that many, if not most
Supercabs (and CrewCabs) have been extended at the expense of a chopped-off
open bed. Instead of the traditional 8' bed, most of these models only have
6 1/2 foot beds. I even know one individual who did not know this when he
was looking for a truck and he almost purchased the "shortbed" SuperCab
model because he assumed (you all know what happens when we assume) all
trucks were 8' beds unless you specifically ordered a shortbed (rather than
the other way around for SuperCabs / CrewCabs). For many people who go to
the trouble of purchasing a pick-up truck, they should get the whole thing
(8' bed). Having had all 8' beds in my pickups, and having borrowed and
used trucks w/ the 6 1/2 foot bed, I can tell you the 8' bed is far superior
for general hauling (furniture, lawn equipment and supplies, moving people,
dirt bikes, fencing, compressors and tools, lumber, stone, etc., etc.,
etc.).


Keith



- -----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Schapker
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, November 23, 1998 8:07 PM
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Engine cooling fan operation (real truck - rare)


> What do you mean by real truck? I think everyone on this list
probably
>owns a real truck if it is a Ford. I own a 1999 F-350 Lariat, 4X4, DRW,
PSD,
>Crew Cab. This is as real as it gets!
>
>I now have 280 miles on my brand-spanking-new '99 F150 XLT 4x4 5.4L
>supercab LONGBED (real truck - rare) with ARE CH cap and Dunlop Rover
>A/T 285/75-16s (looks great and rides fine). What an incredibly nice
>truck. I ride considerably higher than new GM trucks (a feeling of
>superiority)! Anyhow, I notice that the cooling fan (electric) is
>running all the time, even when cold, and it changes rpm constantly. Is
>this normal? Wouldn't this slow the warm-up process? Thanks.
>
>Jordan Rautiola
>Hersey, Michigan
>'99 4x4 SC LB 5.4L dark tor red w/dark grey int.
>
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:51:49 EST
From: FISHNG1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 1999 F350 Camper package???

Nathan or anyone who can help,

I ordered the Camper package, along with the towing package with my 99 SD PSD
and thought that I was getting all of the above because I had a checklist from
Carpoint that I had set up the deal with. I brought this to the dealer and
went through the checklist with them. When they printed out a sheet that had
all the data on it, it showed the trailer package and an Item that said
"Camper/TT/Diesel Credit". I thought that meant that I was getting a credit
for ordering the Diesel, the camper package and Trailer package.
When the truck was delivered and I took it home I noticed on these posts
that the camper package was to have the rear sway bar and the overload
springs. They were not there and inside the glove box was a piece of paper
stating that this truck was not recommended for a slide in camper. THIS IS
WHAT I BOUGHT THE TRUCK FOR!
What else am I missing and is there anything I can do, was this my fault for
being ignorant? This was my first "New" truck that I have ever ordered.
Thanks for any and all help........Other wise the truck is great!
The FishNg1 in Gig Harbor, Wa > > >
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:16:59 -0800
From: Danny Gaudenti
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Engine cooling fan operation

>My '98 F-250 is an engine-driven fan, too.
>
>Danny, where have you seen a good electric substitute? The fluid clutch
>(temperature-sensitive) on mine seems to be fairly "intelligent" as to
>whether to blow up a storm or just putter along at a speed lower then the
>engine's. So why do you want to substitute an electric?
>
>I have an across-the-street neighbor whose Toyota T-100's fan is so loud
>every morning, it's the only thing I hear when he starts up. Were it mine,
>I would be quite motivated to get an electric. Not my F-250, though. I
>think . . .
>
>---------------
>Ken Peterson, Portland, OR

I've going to use a 16" Perma-Cool High Performance fan. My radiator is
16" x 32". I may use two, side-by-side. The engine-driven fan sucks 3780
CFM at 3000 engine RPM. The Perma-Cool fan is 2950 CFM, two would be 5900
CFM! Maybe I'll run them in series (less current) when first started and
then switch both to full speed if needed.

I get some fan roar when I first start-up, very noticable if I start in the
garage with the window down. After driving a bit, but before it's warmed
up, I've quickly pulled over, shut down the engine and spun the fan by
hand. It had a lot of resistance. (I'm sure it would be even tighter if I
had been sitting in traffic.) But that's one reason I want to change to
electric: The fan is running even when it's not needed (and wasting
power). I put an electric fan on my old car and also put a light on the
dash so I would know when it was running. It would only come on if I was
stuck in traffic or moving slowly on a hot day. Also, winter is on the way
and it seems kinda silly to suck freezing cold air through the radiator
(and blow it on the engine) while you want it to warm up. And, I think it
might help the life of the water pump to get rid of that big fan and clutch
that's flopping around on the end of it.

I'm sure the engine-driven fan is more efficient than an electric, but I'm
betting the electric will not run very often and turn out to better overall.

Danny

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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:28:17 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 1999 F350 Camper package???

The credit you saw is just for for ordering one of the options with the
Diesel (it just doesn't specify witch one) so you didn't get the camper
package or you should have had 2 credits. I don't know what to tell you
about who's at fault (a little on both sides in my opinion). What I'd do is
get a price to add the sway bar and over-load springs (aftermarket would
probably be cheaper) and see if the dealer will cut you a deal on buying and
installing it.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

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From: FISHNG1 aol.com
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Cc: SNg1071587 aol.com
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 1999 F350 Camper package???


> Nathan or anyone who can help,
>
>I ordered the Camper package, along with the towing package with my 99 SD
PSD
>and thought that I was getting all of the above because I had a checklist
from
>Carpoint that I had set up the deal with. I brought this to the dealer and
>went through the checklist with them. When they printed out a sheet that
had
>all the data on it, it showed the trailer package and an Item that said
>"Camper/TT/Diesel Credit". I thought that meant that I was getting a
credit
>for ordering the Diesel, the camper package and Trailer package.
> When the truck was delivered and I took it home I noticed on these posts
>that the camper package was to have the rear sway bar and the overload
>springs. They were not there and inside the glove box was a piece of paper
>stating that this truck was not recommended for a slide in camper. THIS IS
>WHAT I BOUGHT THE TRUCK FOR!
> What else am I missing and is there anything I can do, was this my fault
for
>being ignorant? This was my first "New" truck that I have ever ordered.
> Thanks for any and all help........Other wise the truck is great!
> The FishNg1 in Gig Harbor, Wa > > >


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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:24:46 -0600
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - tracking rail cars on the web.

Does anyone know how to track railcars on the web? I have a F-250 running
late it's VIN is 1ftnf21sxxec53405 and according to my info should be on
rail car # TTGX941500. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.
Union, IA 50258


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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:10:47 -0600
From: "shane o. conger"
Subject: FTE 97up - limited slip swap

Nathan, I have a question you may be able to answer for me. I have a
1998 F-150 SC SB 4x2 XLT with 4.6L and 3.55 rear. I would like to have
the ford limited slip installed in place of my dog leg rear. What
should this cost me? Any infor would be a great help. Thanks

Shane O.
Conger

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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:16:34 -0800 (PST DST)
From: pmorales primenet.com (Pat & Anna)
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - tracking rail cars on the web.

on Tuesday 24-11-98 16:24, Union Auto wrote:

>Does anyone know how to track railcars on the web?

Union Pacific Railroad
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://my.uprr.com/pub/pet/index.shtml

Posted here previously and we know it works!

Pat

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"Boating, trucking, and loving life. What could be better? :-)"
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:38:58 -0700
From: "Brandt Dennehy"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - limited slip swap

Can you have the limited slip option installed after you already have the
vehicle? Difficult?? I have a 99 Superduty v-10 that I didn't order with
the limited slip option....do they automatically come with this in the
standare 3.73 ratio? Thanks...

BRandt


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From: shane o. conger
To: 97up-list-digest
Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 6:31 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - limited slip swap


>Nathan, I have a question you may be able to answer for me. I have a
>1998 F-150 SC SB 4x2 XLT with 4.6L and 3.55 rear. I would like to have
>the ford limited slip installed in place of my dog leg rear. What
>should this cost me? Any infor would be a great help. Thanks
>
> Shane O.
>Conger
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:58:13 -0800
From: Ken Peterson
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - engine cooling fan

>Perhaps my earlier post was inaccurate, in that I assumed that the fan
>is electric because it does not follow engine rpms when cold.

Right. It's clutch has *lots* of slip when cold.

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Ken Peterson, Portland, OR
1998 F-250LD Lariat, extended cab, short bed, 4X2, 5.4l, class-3 tow options
LT245X16/steel rims, 4W disks + ABS, load-leveling rear suspension.
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Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:05:53 -0800
From: Ken Peterson
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - limited slip swap

>Can you have the limited slip option installed after you already have the
>vehicle? Difficult?? I have a 99 Superduty v-10 that I didn't order with
>the limited slip option....do they automatically come with this in the
>standare 3.73 ratio? Thanks...

Apparently you can. I had it done for free because a dealer mistake
resulted in it being left off my truck when purchased, when I had ordered
it in writing. The later retrofit of the LS works perfectly.

The LS clutch capsule that fits into the center of the differential is
ordered. It's a one-day installation. They fit it into your existing diff,
but the pinion-gear interference has to be recalibrated, so have a....

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