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97up-list-digest Monday, November 23 1998 Volume 01 : Number 287 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1997 and Newer Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo with the words "unsubscribe 97up-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: FTE 97up - Re: Econoline FTE 97up - Turbo Cool Down FTE 97up - ADMIN: 1999 F-100 Supernationals, Pigeon Forge FTE 97up - 350--or--250? FTE 97up - Resonance vibration RE: FTE 97up - cost differance? ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 11:07:11 EST From: JDavis1277 Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Econoline I don't believe the diesel in the econoline has the aftercooler. Thanks, Butch Davis- == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 12:59:58 -0800 From: Rod Loewen Subject: FTE 97up - Turbo Cool Down I've been interested in the discussion around cool down times. All engines that have been working hard need time to cool down before shut down. To get rid of cylinder hot spots. Turbos are a special consideration and I have installed a pre/post lube pump on my PSD. I do not run more than 30 secs. post lube because, like Butch Davis says, simply the time to park out truck and idle a minute is enough time to cool. But the turbo does spin down after the engine dies so I like to make sure to lube the bearings during that spin down time. However the seals in the turbo are designed to work with the turbo spinning and after it's stopped the seals may not hold and the seals may be damaged. I think the bigger consideration is the pre lube. I will not crank my truck till the guage registers oil pressure. Especially after an oil change, this allows the pre lube pump to fill the filter and bring lube to the bearings before cranking. I've got to admit I've taken most of my ideas here from running 2000 hp Waukesha V16's. 9390 cubic inch. They believe this is the best way to protect a $1,000,000 package so I figure if its good enough for them, it sure can't hurt my Ford! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:16:31 -0500 From: Ken Payne Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: 1999 F-100 Supernationals, Pigeon Forge The 21st annual F-100 Supernations, in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, is scheduled for May 13-16, 1999 at the Grand Hotel. This show features both old and new trucks and is the largest show of its kind. Last year, over 800 trucks were registered in the show. Ford Truck Enthusiasts had very good attendance, especially since it was our first year. We had 32 people (not including spouses) from our group there. Already we are nearly double the size we were in April of 98. We're hoping to have over 100 people attend in 1999. As many of you may know, several of us are trying to incorporate a non-profit Ford truck club. We hope to have this together by the show. Regardless of whether or not this happens by then, we'd like to put together a committee to plan for the event. If you would like to be part of the planning, and/or you plan to attend the show, you can be on this committee by sending an email to majordomo body of the email: subscribe pfgroup-list This is the only way to subscribe. Full information about the show will appear on the web site events guide this evening. Regards, Ken Payne CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:23:02 -0600 From: boblutz Subject: FTE 97up - 350--or--250? Trying to price out a superduty, super cab, 4x2,srw,powerstroke. my question is, "what's the $1500 extra cost between F350 and F250 besides the rear springs and the 350 badge? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 19:29:57 EST From: Dalgor Subject: FTE 97up - Resonance vibration I bought a 1998 F150 Supercab shortbed XLT with the smaller V8, automatic transmission, and 4x4. When the tachometer is within the range of 1500 to 2000 rpm and the transmission is engaged, a very noticable resonance vibration can be heard in the cab. For short trips I can ignore it, but on trips longer than 30 minutes, the sound is driving me up the wall! The shop foreman at my dealer compared my truck to another very similar in year, make, model, size of engine, etc., and it too had the same low frequency tone in the same rpm range. The foreman stated that there was nothing the dealership could do and Ford would not compensate them if they did try it. There was nothing about this resonance as a problem on the dealer's computer. Those of you with the 1998 F150, do you experience the same resonance? And if so, do I just live with it or is there something that can be done about it? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 00:52:01 -0600 From: scott anderson Subject: RE: FTE 97up - cost differance? >===== Original Message From boblutz ===== >For a 1999 superduty ford charges $1500 more for a f350 over the same >F250. 2x4 >other than rear springs what's in the extra cost. > >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html 350's generally have larger and heavier rearends, heavier springs, and a taller block that sits on the rear axle to give the tires some added clearance. Scott Anderson == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ End of 97up-list-digest V1 #287 ******************************* +------ Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1997 and Newer Trucks and Vans ------+ .... 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