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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Re: 99 truck bed
Re: FTE 97up - '98 F-150 steering
FTE 97up - RE: 99 truck bed
Re: FTE 97up - RE: 99 truck bed
Re: FTE 97up - Re: "Sloshing Water"
Re: FTE 97up - stalling
FTE 97up - Ranger 4 vs. V6
Re: FTE 97up - Ranger 4 vs. V6
FTE 97up - Stereo questions

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 08:20:21 -0400
From: Lee Haefele
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: 99 truck bed

STOP.... I have 6 F-350s all with utility boxes. The F-350 Cab-Chassis
uses a different frame than the pickup. The CC frame is a 34" wide much
taller straight rail, THIS is what you and your body company will want.
The pickup is a 38" wide shorter rail, which seems to come with smaller
springs.
I was appalled when I saw the first 99 Superduty, it was a F-350 DRW
pickup, it had this small frame and 5 leaf springs. It still had the
11,200 GVW which amazed me. I did not order my 99 F-350 DRW chassis
untill I viewed the Ford Bodybuilders Guide, which your dealer will have
also. When I talked to my body company, they said they had just been to
a Ford show, saw the pickup type frame, wished I would buy a different
brand, then I explained the frame differences to them. Ford offers both
the Cab-Chassis and a pickup with "Box Removal Option", I beleive the CC
is much cheaper. They included the Box Removal opt for people to
transfer their old body off older wide frame trucks. This is all
explained in the video tape your dealer rec'd in Feb, ask to view it
with him. If you are going to load the utility body much, I recommend
the DRW model, I beleive the springs are much heavier & the ride is
still good. Increased stability on the hwy, safety from blown tires,
better off road traction + much more tool box room. BTW do not buy a
Reading brand utility body untill you see one with the shelfs
installed. The shelfs are only 14" deep (in a 20" box), they are 6"
apart, but have a 2.5" lip, you cannot ge a hand in between! The only
choice is to space them 12" apart, a BIG waste of space. My new 99
F-350 is a nice driving vehicle, it is V-10, 4X4, supercab, DRW,
Chassis-cab, with HD service option & trailer tow pkg. Only downside is
it was delivered with vacuum brakes, where I was promised Hydro boost,
the brakes are marginal. The Diesels all come with the Hydro booster,
which works well.
Lee Haefele

> I'm planning on ordering a 99 PSD CC 350 SRW and they won't let me delete the
> box, what state are you in? I'm planning on putting a utility body on mine and
> I have no idea of what to do with the left over box
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:48:41 -0500
From: Bob Lyle
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - '98 F-150 steering

> - ---Mike Fairleigh wrote:
> >
> > My truck has about 9,500 miles on it now and is 11 months old. For
> a couple
> > months, I've noticed a "catch" (for lack of a better way to describe
> it) in
> > the steering which occurs right around the middle point or "straight"
> > position of the wheel. Perhaps some play in the steering or
> suspension? It
> > isn't audible, you just feel it and its a little concerning. Any
> ideas?
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Mike Fairleigh
> > mikef sky.net

Not nearly as aggravating as the dang windshield washers that won't come
on, no matter how many times you push the handle!! My 98 Expedition
has 37K on it already (14 months) and this is the only complaint I
have!! But it's enough to drive me POSTAL some days!!!
- --
Big Bob and the Studebaker All-Star BBQ Pit Crew !!!
Austin, Texas.....Home of the 1998 SDC International Meet

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 14:13:41 -0400
From: Claude King
Subject: FTE 97up - RE: 99 truck bed

Here's what I'm planning, maybe unreasonable, would like a low profile box, had
looked at the reading, purpose being that I could put a slidein camper in also.
Not interested in a large camper with a lot of overhand in the rear, as I would
still like to be able to tow with it. The camper will be the most load put in
it. Think I still want SRW as my present truck 72 ford 250 with a reading body
holds all I need for my type of work. Also plan on driving it on a daily basis
for work, about 140 miles round trip. I keep my vehicles a long time and
thought the diesel would pay for itself around 85,000.00 miles which is about
half to a third of miles I put on my vehicles before retiring them. Things I
didn't like about the cab chassis model is with tank at the rear there is no
place for a spare, and I don't think they offer a reciever hitch with that
model.
Purpose of the truck is two fold, daily work carrying limited tools, and then
extended stay work truck with the camper and probably a 18 foot trailer that
could carry my ford tractor or loaded with tools like table saw etc, for house
remodeling. Any ideas suggestion, body styles would be appreciated.

//ck

- -----Original Message-----
From: Lee Haefele [SMTP:haefele clarityconnect.com]
Sent: Monday, October 12, 1998 8:20 AM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Cc: Claude-King worldnet.att.net
Subject: Re: 99 truck bed

STOP.... I have 6 F-350s all with utility boxes. The F-350 Cab-Chassis
uses a different frame than the pickup. The CC frame is a 34" wide much
taller straight rail, THIS is what you and your body company will want.
The pickup is a 38" wide shorter rail, which seems to come with smaller
springs.
I was appalled when I saw the first 99 Superduty, it was a F-350 DRW
pickup, it had this small frame and 5 leaf springs. It still had the
11,200 GVW which amazed me. I did not order my 99 F-350 DRW chassis
untill I viewed the Ford Bodybuilders Guide, which your dealer will have
also. When I talked to my body company, they said they had just been to
a Ford show, saw the pickup type frame, wished I would buy a different
brand, then I explained the frame differences to them. Ford offers both
the Cab-Chassis and a pickup with "Box Removal Option", I beleive the CC
is much cheaper. They included the Box Removal opt for people to
transfer their old body off older wide frame trucks. This is all
explained in the video tape your dealer rec'd in Feb, ask to view it
with him. If you are going to load the utility body much, I recommend
the DRW model, I beleive the springs are much heavier & the ride is
still good. Increased stability on the hwy, safety from blown tires,
better off road traction + much more tool box room. BTW do not buy a
Reading brand utility body untill you see one with the shelfs
installed. The shelfs are only 14" deep (in a 20" box), they are 6"
apart, but have a 2.5" lip, you cannot ge a hand in between! The only
choice is to space them 12" apart, a BIG waste of space. My new 99
F-350 is a nice driving vehicle, it is V-10, 4X4, supercab, DRW,
Chassis-cab, with HD service option & trailer tow pkg. Only downside is
it was delivered with vacuum brakes, where I was promised Hydro boost,
the brakes are marginal. The Diesels all come with the Hydro booster,
which works well.
Lee Haefele

> I'm planning on ordering a 99 PSD CC 350 SRW and they won't let me delete the
> box, what state are you in? I'm planning on putting a utility body on mine
and
> I have no idea of what to do with the left over box
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 12:05:23 -0700
From: johny
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - RE: 99 truck bed

You don't say what kinds of capacities you are looking for, but I
found this which looks very interesting.
Up to 15Cu ft. per side, and unfortunately, may not be available until
mid 1999.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hidenside.com/whatis.html

- -john

Claude King wrote:

> Here's what I'm planning, maybe unreasonable, would like a low profile box, had
> looked at the reading, purpose being that I could put a slidein camper in also.
> Not interested in a large camper with a lot of overhand in the rear, as I would
> still like to be able to tow with it. The camper will be the most load put in
> it. Think I still want SRW as my present truck 72 ford 250 with a reading body
> holds all I need for my type of work. Also plan on driving it on a daily basis
> for work, about 140 miles round trip. I keep my vehicles a long time and
> thought the diesel would pay for itself around 85,000.00 miles which is about
> half to a third of miles I put on my vehicles before retiring them. Things I
> didn't like about the cab chassis model is with tank at the rear there is no
> place for a spare, and I don't think they offer a reciever hitch with that
> model.
> Purpose of the truck is two fold, daily work carrying limited tools, and then
> extended stay work truck with the camper and probably a 18 foot trailer that
> could carry my ford tractor or loaded with tools like table saw etc, for house
> remodeling. Any ideas suggestion, body styles would be appreciated.
>
> //ck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee Haefele [SMTP:haefele clarityconnect.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 12, 1998 8:20 AM
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Cc: Claude-King worldnet.att.net
> Subject: Re: 99 truck bed
>
> STOP.... I have 6 F-350s all with utility boxes. The F-350 Cab-Chassis
> uses a different frame than the pickup. The CC frame is a 34" wide much
> taller straight rail, THIS is what you and your body company will want.
> The pickup is a 38" wide shorter rail, which seems to come with smaller
> springs.
> I was appalled when I saw the first 99 Superduty, it was a F-350 DRW
> pickup, it had this small frame and 5 leaf springs. It still had the
> 11,200 GVW which amazed me. I did not order my 99 F-350 DRW chassis
> untill I viewed the Ford Bodybuilders Guide, which your dealer will have
> also. When I talked to my body company, they said they had just been to
> a Ford show, saw the pickup type frame, wished I would buy a different
> brand, then I explained the frame differences to them. Ford offers both
> the Cab-Chassis and a pickup with "Box Removal Option", I beleive the CC
> is much cheaper. They included the Box Removal opt for people to
> transfer their old body off older wide frame trucks. This is all
> explained in the video tape your dealer rec'd in Feb, ask to view it
> with him. If you are going to load the utility body much, I recommend
> the DRW model, I beleive the springs are much heavier & the ride is
> still good. Increased stability on the hwy, safety from blown tires,
> better off road traction + much more tool box room. BTW do not buy a
> Reading brand utility body untill you see one with the shelfs
> installed. The shelfs are only 14" deep (in a 20" box), they are 6"
> apart, but have a 2.5" lip, you cannot ge a hand in between! The only
> choice is to space them 12" apart, a BIG waste of space. My new 99
> F-350 is a nice driving vehicle, it is V-10, 4X4, supercab, DRW,
> Chassis-cab, with HD service option & trailer tow pkg. Only downside is
> it was delivered with vacuum brakes, where I was promised Hydro boost,
> the brakes are marginal. The Diesels all come with the Hydro booster,
> which works well.
> Lee Haefele
>
> > I'm planning on ordering a 99 PSD CC 350 SRW and they won't let me delete the
> > box, what state are you in? I'm planning on putting a utility body on mine
> and
> > I have no idea of what to do with the left over box
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:01:26 EDT
From: CNTRYF150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: "Sloshing Water"

if you park under trees,the leaves fall into the air intake for the
ac,therefore stopping up the drain in the air box.With the ac on high normal
not high max,check to see if condensation is dripping out of the r-front ares
behind the wheel.If not,the drain could be stopped up allowing water to slosh
around under your dash in the air box.,, Jim/aka/pickup man
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:12:26 EDT
From: CNTRYF150 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - stalling

I have a 98 f150 with a 4.2 v6.has anyone had or herd of a stalling
problem.I have nearly gotten myself killed trying to come to a stop at a
light, and then having the truck stall in an intersection.It starts back up
after about two minutes of cranking.It has done this to me three times at a
fast food drive through,once leaving my house in the morning just after
getting under way ,once on the way home after a busy day of driving around
looking for a new house.The Ford dealer that I took it to and also work for
changed the fuel pump.It did it once after that on the way home from work in
city driving conditions at a red light.The dealer said to try a different
brand of gas.Personally I think they are full of gas.My truck has a five speed
and a/c,no cruise or power accessories. If anyone has ever heard of
this,please tell me about it.
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:37:28 -0700
From: "Michael D. Sheridan"
Subject: FTE 97up - Ranger 4 vs. V6

Group:

Can't decide on the 4 or V6 for the Ranger XL I
am thinking of buying. I've heard that the V6 is
not so hot on gas and doesn't go.

Any comment will be helpful.

Thanking you in advance.

Michael
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 18:46:50 -0600
From: "peter lambert"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Ranger 4 vs. V6

I opted for the V6 to get more torque as well as horsepower. As well as a
smoother running engine.

"Always try to keep the rubber side down"
Peter.
blindman shaw.wave.ca
1997 Ford Ranger XLT
1986 Kawasaki ZX1000R
- -----Original Message-----
From: Michael D. Sheridan
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Monday, October 12, 1998 8:40 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Ranger 4 vs. V6


>Group:
>
>Can't decide on the 4 or V6 for the Ranger XL I
>am thinking of buying. I've heard that the V6 is
>not so hot on gas and doesn't go.
>
>Any comment will be helpful.
>
>Thanking you in advance.
>
>Michael
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:52:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: chris coleman
Subject: FTE 97up - Stereo questions

I want to upgrade my speakers and install an amplifier and I have the
following questions:

1. Is the 6 CD changer stereo made by Clarion?
As I recall, the stock changer is made by Clarion, but, not too sure,
I replaced mine with a double Din Pioneer, sounds much better.

2. Does anyone know what the speaker technical specifications are?
type, size, sensitivity, power range.
I believe the stock speakers are 30 watts RMS. As for other specs, I
can only guess. I do a lot in the way of car stereo install, but, not
much is written on the stock equipment. Based on other 6X8's, the
sensitivity is around 91 db with a frequency response range of 50-20K.

3. What are the radio's specs. power per channel.
The stock radio puts out very little power, I know my Expy has a built
in amplifier that is runing right about 4X25 watts RMS based on
loudness. I haven't gone searching for the amp. But, if you are
looking to install an amp with the stock radio, it will be a challenge
and run you a few extra bucks considering that there is no RCA plugs
on the back of the radio. I currently have my radio running through
the stock amp. It works, but, I have to keep the volume down on the
radio or I will blow either the amp or the speakers. If you are
looking to add the factory CD changer after the fact, for almost the
same amount of money, you can get an aftermarket system that will
sound a lot better. I am getting ready to replace the rest of the
system with 6" mid/1" tweeter up front, 6.5" in the rear doors, and 2
10" subs in the back. If you need any help, I have a Crutchfield mag
that has a lot of the dimensional data that you may need.

Is there a database available somewhere from Ford?


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