97up-list-digest Sunday, May 24 1998 Volume 01 : Number 092



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - 36,000 MIle Bumper to Bumper Waranty!
Re: FTE 97up - Break-In Period for the Super Duty F350
FTE 97up - Re: Extended Warranties-Whines
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Extended Warranties-Whines
Re: FTE 97up - Break-In Period for the Super Duty F350
FTE 97up - Extended warranties-Whines
Re: FTE 97up - Extended warranties-Whines

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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 07:48:15 -0500
From: Tom Fitzsimmons
Subject: FTE 97up - 36,000 MIle Bumper to Bumper Waranty!

Has any one had a Paint problem with an Explorer?

I have a 97 XLT with 26,000 miles and the Paint (Black) is coming up with light
Gray
spots and then they turn yellow and crack through the top layer of paint!

Also In other areas I see white spots that look like their down to the primer!

I have been trying to get Ford to do some thing about it for 4 months!

Ford reps say its Acid Rain that caused this! I Don't think sooooo!


Can any one out their give me so more info on this problem!

Thanks Tom Fitzsimmons
tfitz cyberramp.net




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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:18:14 EDT
From: John941
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Break-In Period for the Super Duty F350

Nathan:
You don't think it is necessary to brake in before towing?
John
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:56:09 EDT
From: JDavis1277
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Extended Warranties-Whines

If you are going to get an extended warranty on a Ford I HIGHLY recommend the
Ford ESP. The asking price for these warranties may seem high, but the prices
are negotiable and you can buy them at a considerable discount. Plus, you can
get them from any Ford dealer, so shop around just as you would to buy a new
truck. My experience with the Ford ESP was that it was seamless. It was as
though the original warranty never expired. No hassles, no guff, no grief.
My policy included a $100 deductible on repairs, but who cares if you are
getting a new tranny, or whatever. Anything else is a gamble. If the
warranty company is a little short on cash they can just claim your problem is
not covered; and they do! Plus, some of them require you to get approval
before having a covered repair done. Do you want your ride sitting around
waiting for approval from the warranty company? Other warranty companies
require you to pay for repairs and get reimbursement from them later. Good
luck!!! Stick with Ford for the best result. My .02, Butch Davis-
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 09:46:16 -0700
From: WiNk
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Extended Warranties-Whines

JDavis,
You are certainly correct in your comments. The ESP has provisons for a rental car
too. FIve days of FREE car rental is included with the policy. The original new
car warranty doesn't have that feature.

The extra care warranty can cost 1295 dollars for 5 years and 100,000 miles. You
need to subtract 36.000 miles to get the actual mileage additional coverage.


JDavis1277 wrote:

> If you are going to get an extended warranty on a Ford I HIGHLY recommend the
> Ford ESP. The asking price for these warranties may seem high, but the prices
> are negotiable and you can buy them at a considerable discount. Plus, you can
> get them from any Ford dealer, so shop around just as you would to buy a new
> truck. My experience with the Ford ESP was that it was seamless. It was as
> though the original warranty never expired. No hassles, no guff, no grief.
> My policy included a $100 deductible on repairs, but who cares if you are
> getting a new tranny, or whatever. Anything else is a gamble. If the
> warranty company is a little short on cash they can just claim your problem is
> not covered; and they do! Plus, some of them require you to get approval
> before having a covered repair done. Do you want your ride sitting around
> waiting for approval from the warranty company? Other warranty companies
> require you to pay for repairs and get reimbursement from them later. Good
> luck!!! Stick with Ford for the best result. My .02, Butch Davis-
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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 12:03:43 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Break-In Period for the Super Duty F350

We have been just telling people to start towing (but go easy on the brakes)
This has resulted in no problems. I feel these trucks pull better than the
ones that are babied (just my opinion). This is a gray area that has a lot
of opinions and few documented facts so do what you think is right.

Nathan
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From: John941
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Date: Saturday, May 23, 1998 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Break-In Period for the Super Duty F350


>Nathan:
>You don't think it is necessary to brake in before towing?
>John


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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:45:58 -0700
From: "George Jeffers"
Subject: FTE 97up - Extended warranties-Whines

WiNK wrote

"The warranties are questionable.
If a seal goes and is not covered, they will not honor the warranty. Now
you have to think about that part of the deal because an engine failure
could cause a seal to go out. The ole "chicken or egg" first argument.
This argument allows the contract issuer to frustrate the filing of
legitimate claims. "

I can't speak for other states, but in California this looks like the
doctrine of "concurrent causation" and they would not be allowed to dishonor
the warrenty.

These warrenties are insurance contracts and goverened by the state
department of insurance. If you are not happy, file a complaint with your
state Department of Insurance.

BTW, I am not advocating extended warrenties (they have a lot of fat in
their pricing), but if you have one, you should be aware of where to go if
your dissatisfied.

George Jeffers



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Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 15:45:44 -0700
From: WiNk
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Extended warranties-Whines

George,
You have it straight but consider the hassles that one has to endure when the
engine faliure is blamed on the seal which is not covered in the warranty.

I tend to agree with another message that described the dealer's warranty as
seamless as opposed to other warranty providers such as Warranty Gold. I
understand that Warranty Gold is a reputable firrm, however when you deal with
the manufacturer and it's dealers I suspect that you would be better serviced,
especially if you're a steady dealer customer.

The difference between the two warranties that I looked at was 400 dollars or
so. I chose the more expensive dealer warranty.

BTW! the earlier that the warranty is bought the less that it cost, i'm told.



George Jeffers wrote:

> WiNK wrote
>
> "The warranties are questionable.
> If a seal goes and is not covered, they will not honor the warranty. Now
> you have to think about that part of the deal because an engine failure
> could cause a seal to go out. The ole "chicken or egg" first argument.
> This argument allows the contract issuer to frustrate the filing of
> legitimate claims. "
>
> I can't speak for other states, but in California this looks like the
> doctrine of "concurrent causation" and they would not be allowed to dishonor
> the warrenty.
>
> These warrenties are insurance contracts and goverened by the state
> department of insurance. If you are not happy, file a complaint with your
> state Department of Insurance.
>
> BTW, I am not advocating extended warrenties (they have a lot of fat in
> their pricing), but if you have one, you should be aware of where to go if
> your dissatisfied.
>
> George Jeffers
>
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