97up-list-digest Saturday, May 23 1998 Volume 01 : Number 091



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Re: FTE 97up - Break-In Period for the Super Duty F350
Re: FTE 97up - more on diesel break in period
Re: FTE 97up - Extended warranties-Whines

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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 08:13:15 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Break-In Period for the Super Duty F350

Be sure to go easy on the brakes the first 1000 miles, this will make a big
difference in brake life. Also if it's a 4x4 run with the hubs locked for a
few hundred miles to make sure the front end is correctly built. As for
engine everyone has their own opinion but the best running trucks are the
ones that get broke in hard. I tell all my customers to drive the way you
normally do except run a few miles per hour different to vary RPM's so the
rings seat correctly.

Nathan Bernard

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From: jim schang
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, May 21, 1998 5:32 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Break-In Period for the Super Duty F350


>I will be picking up my new Super Duty F350 Power Stroke in June and then
>towing a fifth wheel home, from Kansas to Florida, about 1300 miles. What,
>if any, break-in procedure should I follow prior to making the trip home?
>Should I put some easy miles on first without the trailer, change the oil
>etc. and then strike out for home? If so how many miles?
>Any insight would be appreciated.
>
>jim


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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:58:30 -0700
From: WiNk
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - more on diesel break in period

Volkswagon had a flyer stating to use molybdenum (spelling) grease. Other
manufacturers have recommended "top oil" however, all of these recommendations
are realated to the alloys used in the block cylinders, pitson rings, etc.

HEAT! is the engine killer and in a new engine the microscopic grooves, dings,
left in the metal from the machining are the areas of concern during break in
periods. In the long past, engine blocks were left to season for about 2 years
or more. Nowadays this engine block seasoning is not used anymore from what I
can discover. Metal stretching etc during engine block machining are the
stresses that relax during the seasoning process.

All of the above would mean to me that the engine needs both time and reduced
heat to break in properly. I can also remember when piston rings would never
break in. That is, the rings were so hard, they would never seat properly.

MY OPINION! is to follow the manufacturers instructions, they know what alloys
they have in the engines. They also know that they have to pay for the engines
that never get broke in properly. I believe that they run them prior to
installation too, probably eliminating a lot of rework that could be caused by
the users.

Does any of the above help? I would guess not, because everything above is
relative to some factory's instructions.



Roy E. Springer wrote:

> I posted the following on May 4th, didn't get any responses.
> Wasn't sure if this was old topic, so I went and read a bunch of the
> archives, didn't uncover anything so far.
> I've never owned a diesel before, wondering if there are any special things
> to know in addition to RTFM. (F=Ford)
> I've seen the use of special light break in oils in motorcycles, for
> example. Very important to change it at 1000km.
>
> >In addition to instructions given in owner's manuals, I've been told the
> >following about breaking in gas engines:
> >
> >1. don't be excessively easy on it
> >2. don't be excessively hard on it
> >3. vary the engine speeds and loads continuously, avoid fixed rpm
> >4. avoid lugging at low rpm or using the highest rpm range
> >5. gradually increase maximum rpm used over break-in period
> >6. change oil and filter at 500 or 1000 miles (some use break-in oil)
> >7. manufacturers are working in attempt to make the above unnecessary
> >
> >Does the above hold for the Ford turbodiesel, specifically the new
> >intercooled 7.3?
> >I have a 99 on order and would appreciate any information, opinions or
> >suggestions.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Roy
>
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Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:15:01 -0700
From: WiNk
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Extended warranties-Whines

Pmeanaea,
I have a 100K "extra care" extended warranty that I bought to cove the
vehicle while going through arbitration. The warranties are questionable.
If a seal goes and is not covered, they will not honor the warranty. Now
you have to think about that part of the deal because an engine failure
could cause a seal to go out. The ole "chicken or egg" first argument.
This argument allows the contract issuer to frustrate the filing of
legitimate claims. In any event I am told by most dealers that if you do
get an extended warranty then it is better to get it from the company that
manufactured the vehicle. Also, if you use the dealer and you are their
customer, you will a greater influence on how the dealer views the problems.

The first 36/36 are included in the extended warranty. If you bought a 75K
warranty you are really buying a 75K-36K= 39K warranty.

Read the paper closely. Warranty gold has some restrictions on how they
calculate the warranties.



pmeanea wrote:

> I have been subscribed to the list for several weeks now and find the
> information and posts quite useful.
> I am wondering how many of you are buying extended warranties for your
> new Ford Pickups? Seems to me that with all the electronic stuff on the
> new vehicles that ONE major repair after factory warranty period would
> pay for it.
> Has anyone heard of, or had experience with WARRANTY GOLD program?
> (good or bad)
> I recently bought 97 F-150 ext cab 4X4 loaded, with 5.4 engine. I love
> it so far. Haven't had any wheels fall off yet(recal) and the only
> whine I have heard is from me when I look at the payment book!
> Gave it to my wife for Mother's day, and I even let her drive it once!
> (3 blocks)
> Any help/answers appreciated.
> Pat
> --
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> GO JAZZ! WIN IT ALL THIS YEAR!!!
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