97up-list-digest Saturday, May 16 1998 Volume 01 : Number 084



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - V10 power?
FTE 97up - Suspension Travel
Re: FTE 97up - Suspension Travel
Re: FTE 97up - Recall on 97 & 98 Ford Trucks
Re: FTE 97up - V10 power?
Re: FTE 97up - Recall on 97 & 98 Ford Trucks
Re: FTE 97up - Recall on 97 & 98 Ford Trucks

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 07:21:50 -0400
From: Lee Haefele
Subject: FTE 97up - V10 power?

I have not been delivered my new truck yet, but I took the bare chassis
for a ride. It is an F350 Super cab,chassis, 4X4,DRW, Auto, V10, 4.30
ratio. 2 observations...SLOW, will the engine power increase
dramatically on breakin? High pedal effort brake pedal (this has vacuum
booster, not hydro-boost). Next I permanently mount 4000 lbs of equip
to the truck, so these 2 things may get a lot worse. Anyone out there
using a V10 SD with a heavy load yet?
Lee Haefele
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 07:20:23 -0600
From: Jim Petersen
Subject: FTE 97up - Suspension Travel

I have a 97 F250 SuperCab 4X4 with the 460, manual, and 8800 lb. towing
package. My question is front suspension travel----I've got about 1" of
travel before the body bottoms out on the rubber stops. Is this the
normal amount of spring travel?

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 09:24:56 -0400
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Suspension Travel

I've got the same truck (except auto) and mine is the same way too.

Chad

Jim Petersen wrote:
>
> I have a 97 F250 SuperCab 4X4 with the 460, manual, and 8800 lb. towing
> package. My question is front suspension travel----I've got about 1" of
> travel before the body bottoms out on the rubber stops. Is this the
> normal amount of spring travel?
>
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 08:27:33 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Recall on 97 & 98 Ford Trucks

Just take this in perspective 34 out of about 1.5 million trucks, this is
not a high probability of having problems. I have not seen a one of the
vehicles involved have a problem. I have seen many vehicles that were
never recalled have this problem. If you are worried have your lugnuts
torqued to 100 lb/ft and this will make sure you don't have a problem.
The media has blown this type of thing out of proportion. They started with
air bags, 84 deaths to 1,800,000 air bag deployments (and 2,700 lives saved)
and now they call them deadly. Saying this made their ratings better so now
they are trying to scare everyone about recalls. Scaring people makes their
ratings better so the media will do all of it they can. If there is ever a
recall that is really dangerous they will call you instead of sending a
letter, and then send a wrecker over to get the vehicle. Chevy had one like
this on the new Corvette and immediately dispatched wreckers to make sure
the vehicles didn't get driven.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

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From: Ann Mitchell
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, May 14, 1998 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Recall on 97 & 98 Ford Trucks


>From a statement I read about 34 vehicles had the wheels fall off causing
an
>accident.
>
>Steve
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Union Auto
>To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
>Date: Wednesday, May 13, 1998 11:05 AM
>Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Recall on 97 & 98 Ford Trucks
>
>
>>We got this recall last night. All we can do for now is torque the lug
>nuts
>>to 100lb/ft in the specified order. In a week or two they will have
>>different lug nuts available that will not be as torque sensitive as
these.
>>But before everyone get all scared, how many F-150's or Expeditions have
>you
>>seen with a wheel that's fallen off? Ford (in my opinion) adds a lot of
>>extra recalls to keep track of how many miles people have so the can plan
>on
>>their warranty running out. This keeps dealers from fixing problems after
>>the warranty runs out and saying it had fewer miles than it does. If
>>someone had a recall with 35,000 miles three months ago you can't very
well
>>say that they have under 36,000 now if they have a claim. Not saying the
>>old way of fibbing on warranty was right (or that we ever did it) but it
>did
>>happen and it made many people happy and therefore repeat buyers.
>>
>>Nathan


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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 08:45:45 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - V10 power?

The brakes do feel different, this is the 4 wheel discs, Let me know what
you think once you get it loaded and drive it some. Also the engines to
gain a lot of power. I have a friend with a F-150 5.4L 4X4 that off the
truck wouldn't turn the tires over. The other night (it has 10k miles on it
now) he went by and spun the tires clear up the block. Also the V-10 is
strange to drive due to it's power band. Pulling the low end torque will do
the job easily (no complaints so far any way), but empty it does not feel
impressive 'till it winds up and reaches its horsepower peek. Give it a
few thousand miles and then let us know what you think. Also what did you
have before?

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Lee Haefele
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, May 15, 1998 6:32 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - V10 power?


>I have not been delivered my new truck yet, but I took the bare chassis
>for a ride. It is an F350 Super cab,chassis, 4X4,DRW, Auto, V10, 4.30
>ratio. 2 observations...SLOW, will the engine power increase
>dramatically on breakin? High pedal effort brake pedal (this has vacuum
>booster, not hydro-boost). Next I permanently mount 4000 lbs of equip
>to the truck, so these 2 things may get a lot worse. Anyone out there
>using a V10 SD with a heavy load yet?
>Lee Haefele


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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:56:15 -0500
From: Glenn See
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Recall on 97 & 98 Ford Trucks

Just got back on the list after being cut off for some reason. What kind of
wheels are causing the recall? I have a 97 150 with aluminum wheels and 36K
on them and have never had any problem. So far, it is the best PU that I
have owned in the last 50 years.

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 20:06:07 -0700
From: WiNk
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Recall on 97 & 98 Ford Trucks

Glenn,

Not being certain about the following info I would suggest that you check it out
with some other sources.
The way I understand the wheel situation is that Ford stopped using the tapered
wheel nuts. They are now using "O" rings to center the wheels and then locking
the wheel down with wheel nuts that are "flat" rather than coned shaped. The
result of this is that the nuts loosen after awhile, and need to torqued again
aftre 500 miles or so. Also, some wheel studs are breaking and the wheels are
falling off of the vehicles.

I have a 97 with 38K, 4.6, 3.55 with tow package. I have to say it is the WORST
truck that I ever owned. I am in arbitration with the truck at the moment. I
really do like the amenities included in the interior but I have to say that the
drive line just PLAIN stinks in this vehicle. I believe that the engines is OK
but that drive line is something else again.



Glenn See wrote:

> Just got back on the list after being cut off for some reason. What kind of
> wheels are causing the recall? I have a 97 150 with aluminum wheels and 36K
> on them and have never had any problem. So far, it is the best PU that I
> have owned in the last 50 years.
>
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