97up-list-digest Saturday, June 6 1998 Volume 01 : Number 110



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - ADMIN: TRIM POSTS!
RE: FTE 97up - RECALL
Re: FTE 97up - ADMIN: TRIM POSTS!
Re: FTE 97up - RECALL
FTE 97up - Quality
FTE 97up - RE: Ranger leak
RE: FTE 97up - RE: Ranger leak
FTE 97up - '97 F350 Limited Slip Differential failure
FTE 97up - Dimensions of 1999 F-250 Super Duty Extended Cab 4x4 Short Bed
FTE 97up - ADMIN: We have a Ranger list

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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 12:29:39 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: TRIM POSTS!

I will repeat it once more, I sent out the first
request a little over an hour ago:

When replying to long messages, please trim down the
original post. This reduces the email load on the
server, reduces the archive space needed and is
generally considered a nice thing to do.

Quoting 140 lines of a post with a 5 line reply
is not acceptable.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin


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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 12:29:44 -0400
From: "Shumard, Keith (SHUMARKJ)"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - RECALL

Wink,

Do you realize that out of 21 messages in this thread 8 of them are
from you? For the most part your comments are backed with little to no fact
and useless to the general audience as anything more than space filler.
Frankly, and I can only speak for myself, it would be appreciated if you
would please leave your opinion and personal attacks at home.

> -----Original Message-----
> From:WiNk [SMTP:invesys sprintmail.com]
> Sent:Friday, June 05, 1998 12:15 PM
> To:97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:Re: FTE 97up - RECALL
>
> CHad,
> I don't disagree with you but I really do think that you should use the
> DELETE key vice your jaw.
>
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 10:34:45 -0700
From: WiNk
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - ADMIN: TRIM POSTS!

Ken,
Thanks for the reminder. As you probably noticed I asked for email
responses rather than using this list for an off topic discussion that I
probably started.


Ken Payne wrote:

> I will repeat it once more, I sent out the first
> request a little over an hour ago:
>
> When replying to long messages, please trim down the
> original post. This reduces the email load on the
> server, reduces the archive space needed and is
> generally considered a nice thing to do.
>
> Quoting 140 lines of a post with a 5 line reply
> is not acceptable.
>
> Ken Payne
> CoAdmin
>
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 10:42:53 -0700
From: WiNk
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - RECALL

Keith,
Thanks for your comments. I really do appreciate it because I have learned that
it is easier to use the DELETE key in all the other message bases that I use. I
must say too, that the good list are made up of members that have learned the
same procedure.

I have to apologize for bringing a topic into the message base that most people
are probably not famitiar with, thereby ticking them off rather than helping
them. I suppose that I should use the DELETE key for all of the responses to
all of my messages that are responded too by the list members.

So much for Ford and it's QUALITY is JOB ONE program. :-)




Shumard, Keith (SHUMARKJ) wrote:

> Wink,
>
> Do you realize that out of 21 messages in this thread 8 of them are
> from you? For the most part your comments are backed with little to no fact
> and useless to the general audience as anything more than space filler.
> Frankly, and I can only speak for myself, it would be appreciated if you
> would please leave your opinion and personal attacks at home.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: WiNk [SMTP:invesys sprintmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, June 05, 1998 12:15 PM
> > To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> > Subject: Re: FTE 97up - RECALL
> >
> > CHad,
> > I don't disagree with you but I really do think that you should use the
> > DELETE key vice your jaw.
> >
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 14:17:53 -0400
From: Doug Moore
Subject: FTE 97up - Quality

The is a reply to Mr. Shane O. Conger letter. To not bore the member I will
only include the part I am replying to

Mr. Shane O. Conger writes

I always get a loaner when I take my vehicle in for service or any
reason. I never drive a service department loaner either. I go directly to
the salesman who I buy from and he either gives me one off the lot or the
one he is driving. I have driven 2 Mustang GT's and an Explorer and a Probe
GT and a Taurus SHO. I have bought 5 vehicles from him since 1993 and have
sent him 4 other customers.

Some people can not buy 5 vehicle in 5 years. I personally buy one usually
every 8 year or more. I currently drive 1989 vehicle with more than 174,000
miles and my wife and children have a 1998 Club Wagon. You do get good
handling if you are making the sales person money. I am different I make
the Service department and Parts department money. I do believe that Parts
and Service are the only growing profit centers for most dealerships. I
personal buy from the dealer who services my vehicle the best and I can send
my wife to and not get taken. (Had a minor brake problem and a garge turned
it into a 500.00 brake job.) It took about 30 minutes to order my Club
Wagon and 45 minutes to pick it up but I will see the Service and Parts
people for the next 10 years or more. I believe this subject is now
officially beaten to death.


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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:37:38 -0700
From: "Harald"
Subject: FTE 97up - RE: Ranger leak

I'm not familiar with the Ranger, but my 1990 Ford F150 had a leak that
confounded me for months. I thought it was the cargo light (where your
third brake light would be) or a door seal or the rear window. What it
finally ended up being was a welded seam in the rain gutter above the
drivers door. A little clear RTV fixed the problem.

Harald Stenger


"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin

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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 13:31:04 -0600
From: Dave Armbruster
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - RE: Ranger leak

Thanks for the head's up. I'd going to look into things like that,
could you be a little more specific (a broken weld or a gap in the sheet
metal, etc.) since my Ranger has internal rain rutters (aero style?).
Please respond in private if you wish.

Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Harald [SMTP:Harald foxinternet.net]
> Sent:Friday, June 05, 1998 12:38 PM
> To:97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject:FTE 97up - RE: Ranger leak
>
> I'm not familiar with the Ranger, but my 1990 Ford F150 had a leak
> that
> confounded me for months. I thought it was the cargo light (where
> your
> third brake light would be) or a door seal or the rear window. What
> it
> finally ended up being was a welded seam in the rain gutter above the
> drivers door. A little clear RTV fixed the problem.
>
> Harald Stenger
>
>
> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin
>
>
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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 15:17:55 -0700
From: STEPHEN_WITTE hp-sandiego-om2.om.hp.com
Subject: FTE 97up - '97 F350 Limited Slip Differential failure


I have a '97 F350 crew cab 460CID 5spd with 'limited slip
differential'. I took a friend and his family to a 'difficult driving
area' here in San Diego, and managed to get into a situation where I
was going uphill with a pretty major rut under the left front wheel
and another under the right rear wheel, and water flowing through the
ruts. While we were setting up the 'come-along' around a tree and I
was digging trenches away from the front wheels, my friend noticed
that the back wheel in the rut was turning and taking up the power
from the engine and the rear wheel that was up and on dry ground was
just sitting there.

Evidently the 'limited slip' function of the rear differential had
expired. This truck, which has only 1800 miles on it, is still under
warranty. I brought it in to my favorite mechanic today to get the
oil changed (as it was pretty black even with only 1800 miles on it)
and told him about the differential. He put it on the lift and
determined that indeed the limited slip function was probably gone.
He recommended bringing the truck to the Ford dealer and having them
determine if indeed it needed service (replacement?).

Any of you have similar experiences?

- Stephen Witte
F350 crew cab 4x4 460CID 5spd 2 months old.

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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 21:46:45 -0400
From: Lou Mallia
Subject: FTE 97up - Dimensions of 1999 F-250 Super Duty Extended Cab 4x4 Short Bed

Could someone please direct me to a source for (or provide) the height,
width, and length of the 1999 F-250 Super Duty 4x4 Extended Cab Short
Bed truck?

Thanks,
Lou

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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 22:10:29 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: We have a Ranger list

Just remember, we have a Ranger list. It includes
Rangers, Bronco IIs, Explorers and Aerostars. Ranger
posts are more appropriate on those groups.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts....

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