97up-list-digest Monday, May 25 1998 Volume 01 : Number 093



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Re: FTE 97up - 36,000 MIle Bumper to Bumper Waranty!
FTE 97up - ADMIN: Web site updates
FTE 97up - Test gear

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Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 13:09:07 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 36,000 MIle Bumper to Bumper Waranty!

Ford may be right on this one. I live in a rural area so we don't get much
acid rain, but we do have crop dusters which are just as bad. Just after
the spraying season we see a lot of paint start having problems. They range
from Clearcoat falling off, water spot stains (get progressively worse until
paint falls off), and tarnished looking paint. We have a 1973 Mustang
Convertible that got repainted about 5 years ago. It spent almost a year at
the body shop and when it got out (hand polished laccuer) it was beautiful.
After about a month it sat outside one afternoon and The field next to our
house got sprayed (from a plane). Then there was a light rain. When I
washed it had water drop stains in the paint. I thought they would wax out
but they didn't. They have gotten progressively worse and now the edges are
starting to peel. The car went to the body shop after about a month and he
buffed it all the way to primer and this stain was still in there. So when
we go to get it fixed again it will have to be taken to bare metal.

As for paint warranty, this is a gray area. For rust your covered for 5
years and unlimited miles. This means, however, the rust must be a hole not
just surface rust (tricky huh?). As for paint I believe (read your manual
I'm not sure) that it is 12 months 12k miles from damage like your talking.
This is true for all of the big 3 automakers. Many dealerships will just
repaint it and get the claim paid (sometimes takes some doing, but if you
bought the car NEW it can be done). There are a lot of favors that can get
done if you talk to the right people but if you bought the vehicle used you
are probably out of luck. Ford now does a lot of after warranty adjustments
(limit 2 per vehicle) in case anything brakes after warranty that shouldn't
have. They only do adjustments for the first owner of the car.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.
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From: Tom Fitzsimmons
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, May 23, 1998 8:00 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - 36,000 MIle Bumper to Bumper Waranty!


>Has any one had a Paint problem with an Explorer?
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>I have a 97 XLT with 26,000 miles and the Paint (Black) is coming up with
light
>Gray
>spots and then they turn yellow and crack through the top layer of paint!
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>Also In other areas I see white spots that look like their down to the
primer!
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>I have been trying to get Ford to do some thing about it for 4 months!
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>Ford reps say its Acid Rain that caused this! I Don't think sooooo!
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>Can any one out their give me so more info on this problem!
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>Thanks Tom Fitzsimmons
> tfitz cyberramp.net


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Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 18:00:34 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Web site updates

- - New links added.
- - Several trucks added to pictorial. I added so many that I had to
split off the Ranger/Bronco II/Aerostar trucks into their own section.
- - Check out the News and Info section. Many new items contributed by
list members have been added.
- - Our history page has been updated.

Finally got a months back log of this stuff finished and can now
concentrate on the t-shirts, free web space, etc.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com


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Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 00:23:19 -0400
From: Claude King
Subject: FTE 97up - Test gear

I was just reading through the 99 Manual for the super duty and talks about
a STAR tester to read the GEM codes. For my 91explorer I had this tester
that hooked up through the EEC diagnostic port and flashed out the error
codes and has help me diagnose all of my problems so far. Is there and
equivalent tester for these new trucks.

//ck

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