97up-list-digest Wednesday, September 30 1998 Volume 01 : Number 230



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Loose Lug Nuts
FTE 97up - Turbo speed(Waste gate) explained.
FTE 97up - Which to buy?
Re: FTE 97up - Loose Lug Nuts
FTE 97up - I'm Back!!
Re: FTE 97up - Which to buy?
re:FTE 97up - I got it!

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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:46:41 EDT
From: SSeeplane aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Loose Lug Nuts

Well, my nuts are no longer loose.....according to the local dealer anyway. I
never did get a recall letter, but I asked the local service manager to give
me a call when he got some in. He called today and said he got 10 sets in
(Ford is sending out limited quantities apparently) and if I wanted a set he'd
hold one for me. I went by later and had the lug nuts swapped out in 30
minutes. I'm a little disappointed I had to ask for the nuts, reminded me of
having to ask for ice water at the restaurant on a summer day. Seems like by
now every owner should have been notified that the new nuts were available. (
Must indicate a continuing problem with the supply I guess.)

Steve S. (the other one..lol)
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:11:07 -0700
From: "Robert Loer"
Subject: FTE 97up - Turbo speed(Waste gate) explained.

Let's get someone with credentials to explain a waste gate. Any waste gate I
have ever seen reacted to boost pressure either mechanically or
electronically and was closed at low pressures and opened at higher
pressures and "wasted" some of the exhaust in order to limit boost. This can
reduce turbo lag by allowing more boost at lower rpms and limiting the
resultant higher boost at higher rpms.

I have never heard of a waste gate the closes as boost rises.

Robert Loer



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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 20:27:21 -0700
From: "Ted Rodgers"
Subject: FTE 97up - Which to buy?

Greetings,

I'm new to both trucks and this list, so apologize if this topic has
recently been discussed
or is too basic. I need a truck to tow a race car trailer, which
should weigh, loaded about 12000 lbs. It'll probably be a 5th wheel, in the
32-36 foot range. The truck will also be used for light hauling and
errands, but not heavy hauling.

I'm sure it'll come as no surprise to list members that my research has
pointed to the Ford F Series Super Duty as being the logical choice; other
brands having lesser capacities and too many known weaknesses. I'm leaning
toward the
SuperCab, probably with 2 wheel drive, as it has more towing capacity, and I
don't need to drive it off road or use it for snow.

What I haven't yet decided are the following and would welcome any input
based on your experience or knowledge:

F250 or F350? I've driven both at the dealer, fully unladen, and frankly
can tell very little difference in ride or handling. Even the price and
towing capabilities are close. With the limited info I've given can anyone
add anything which will help with this decision, such as performance while
towing, ride, maintenance, comfort differences, mileage, etc....?

Is there any reason, other than noise not to opt for the Power Stroke turbo
diesel? It's much quieter than the Dodge, for example, and not that bad
once inside. Furthermore the mileage quoted is sure tempting.

Assuming the normal trailer towing options, are there things you consider
mandatory or, alternatively, totally not worth it regarding options? ABS?
LSD? Options that are better
acquired at a non dealer source? For example, as nice as electric towing
mirrors appear,
I've heard of several problems, just in the few days I've been on this list.

One final thing. I'm near Seattle. Anyone have a dealer they can
especially
recommend?

Thanks, and looking forward to my first truck.

Ted















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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 22:04:46 -0600
From: "peter lambert"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Loose Lug Nuts

What years does this affect and what exactly is the problem. I missed the
original post.

Thanks

"Always try to keep the rubber side down"
Peter.
blindman shaw.wave.ca
1997 Ford Ranger XLT
1986 Kawasaki ZX1000R
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From: SSeeplane aol.com
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 1998 9:08 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Loose Lug Nuts


>Well, my nuts are no longer loose.....according to the local dealer anyway.
I
>never did get a recall letter, but I asked the local service manager to
give
>me a call when he got some in. He called today and said he got 10 sets in
>(Ford is sending out limited quantities apparently) and if I wanted a set
he'd
>hold one for me. I went by later and had the lug nuts swapped out in 30
>minutes. I'm a little disappointed I had to ask for the nuts, reminded me
of
>having to ask for ice water at the restaurant on a summer day. Seems like
by
>now every owner should have been notified that the new nuts were available.
(
>Must indicate a continuing problem with the supply I guess.)
>
>Steve S. (the other one..lol)
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>

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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:37:06 -0500
From: "Jack"
Subject: FTE 97up - I'm Back!!

After nearly 24 hours of no power and several hours before that of on and
off power I'm back online. THANK YOU MISSISSIPPI POWER!

We survived the storm. Thanks to all who sent emails asking on our status.
Sorry I couldn't respond until now.

YES the new truck did survive along with the car, house, boat and most of
all our lives. The MS Gulf Coast is a wonderful place to live, but this is
one thing you have to live with.

Georges was definately a Hurricane to remember!

Thanks again to all!

Jack
JBowell msn.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/hjbowell






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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 21:08:53 -0700
From: dwhipkey gte.net
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Which to buy?

Ted,

I would highly reccomend talking to Dave Burlison at Bickford Ford in
Snohomish. They sell the most trucks in Wa. State and probably Idaho
and Oregon. He just sold me my Wifes F-150. No pressure!!!!!! Even
the Finance guy, Eric.is a dream to deal with. My $.02 worth
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 23:18:00 -0700
From: "Sam Moore"
Subject: re:FTE 97up - I got it!

Sorry to add a new twist, but my steering wheel points slightly right (NE).
Ditto on the rigs size, it took me a week to adjust as compared to my 91
F350 CC, DRW. The larger turning radius was the biggest adjustment. Can
anyone verify that the view in the LS Trailer Tow mirror lower segment is
for watching the Dually's go around? :-)
Sam - 99 F350 CC, DRW, 4X4, Lariat


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