97up-list-digest Friday, September 4 1998 Volume 01 : Number 203



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Re:Battery saver
FTE 97up - ADMIN: Clarification on the spammer
FTE 97up - bed caps and fuel efficiency
Re: FTE 97up - bed caps and fuel efficiency
FTE 97up - box car #
FTE 97up - New 5.4 status
Re: FTE 97up - bed caps and fuel efficiency
FTE 97up - Battery Saver
Re: FTE 97up - Battery Saver
Re: FTE 97up - box car #
Re: FTE 97up - Re:Battery saver

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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 06:50:27 +0000
From: "David J. Moran"
Subject: FTE 97up - Re:Battery saver

>
>Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1998 19:45:46 EDT
>From: RAMWORKER aol.com
>Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Invoice buying
>
>Hi List,
>
> Mission accomplished! Truck bought!
>
Congrats.

> Fourth, What is a battery saver? I'm afraid it's that plastic cover on the
>battery, You know the one, that thing everybody throws away when they get a
>replacement battery because it won't fit anymore. It's similar to what
>Chrysler used in the early to mid seventies. The Boss thinks it's a relay to
>protect the battery from deep discharge, so that if you leave the lights on,
>it will still start, I disagree.
>Best Regards,
> Robert
Robert,
The battery saver is as your boss says, if you leave your door ajar or
headlights on, 20-30 min later they are off. It has saved me with the kids
not closing the door all the way. I got in one morning to go to work
about 3:00am the truck was dark, when I closed my door the dome light
would not go off, I checked and the passenger door was not closed all the
way. Closed everything and was off to work. The second time I saw it in
action was when I was cleaning and waxing, doors open dome light on, the
light went off and did not come back on until I closed the doors and opened
them again.
Dave
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 10:14:13 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: Clarification on the spammer

There seems to be some misunderstanding about the spammer.
Several list members have emailed me and basically said
they're afraid of posting because of this. It appears that
somehow they thought that the spammer got email addresses
from the mailing lists.

****** This is completely incorrect!!! ******

The subscriber lists are on a protected directory on our
server. That cannot be retrieved by anyone but myself and
Keith Srb (performance list admin).

The spammer took email addresses from the pictorial of the
web site, not the lists. If you don't have a truck on the
pictorial, you didn't get the spam.

Measures are being put in place this weekend to make it
alot harder for spammers to retrieve addresses from the
web pictorials.

With the exception of my admin email addresses, all email
addresses on the web site will have *spamremove* inserted
in them. This will make yourname address.com appear as
yourname*spamremove* address.com. Addresses formated like
this will bounce back to the spammer unless they remove
this spam blocker from every single address.

To date, we have had no cases of automated harvesting from
the lists. The reason is because its too slow and not
cost effective for the spammers.

The lists are my babies, and the performance list is Keiths.
I assure you that both of us would never make it easy for
spammers.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:14:16 -0400
From: Kevin Fowler
Subject: FTE 97up - bed caps and fuel efficiency

I've read that the soft/hard tonneau covers improve fuel
efficiency with better aerodynamics. Is the same true with the camper
bed caps, or does their added weight counter any aerodynamic benefits?

Just trying to weigh the pros/cons of the two options...

Thanks,
Kevin.

98 F-150 4x4 Lariat SC, 5.4L, towing, off-road, K&N
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 12:32:33 -0400
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - bed caps and fuel efficiency

I just read an article on that very recently. It was either in
Tralier Life or Car and Driver. In a nutshell it said that Ford and
GM engineers did similar tests of gas mileage with different
combonations of tali gates up/down, air gates, tonnaeu covers, and bed
caps. the results they found were, air gates actually decrease by a
small margin due to all the extra turbulance they make, tannaeu (har
and soft) and gate position (up or down) made unmeasureable
differences, and certain bed caps actually increased mpg by a small
amount. The bed caps they said that made the only real difference was
the type that had a tight fit with the cab and was also flush with the
cab.

I know there are people on the list that read both mags, perhaps one
of them remember more about the article.

Chad

Kevin Fowler wrote:
>
> I've read that the soft/hard tonneau covers improve fuel
> efficiency with better aerodynamics. Is the same true with the camper
> bed caps, or does their added weight counter any aerodynamic benefits?
>
> Just trying to weigh the pros/cons of the two options...
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin.
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 15:08:53 -0500
From: Janster
Subject: FTE 97up - box car #

Hi folks,

I ordered my F250 SD, 4x4, SWB, super cab, 5.4L truck back on May 1st. I
finally got an ETA of 25 Sep (I used to be Mr. "ETA Challenged"). I also
have a VIN. Is there a way to find out what rail road box # it would be
shipped in without speaking w/ the dealer? I'd rather find out as much
info on my own before going to the dealer. I hassled him enough about
getting an ETA; don't want to start hassling him about a rail box #.

Patiently waiting

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 16:15:27 EDT
From: KWkM3 aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - New 5.4 status

I was wondering if anyone knows when the new triton(w/260hp) is scheduled to
be produced in the SD line.

Harry
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 16:54:34 -0400
From: "jmc.chartier"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - bed caps and fuel efficiency

Chad Royse wrote:

> I just read an article on that very recently. It was either in
> Tralier Life or Car and Driver. In a nutshell it said that Ford and
> GM engineers did similar tests of gas mileage with different
> combonations of tali gates up/down, air gates, tonnaeu covers, and bed
> caps. the results they found were, air gates actually decrease by a
> small margin due to all the extra turbulance they make, tannaeu (har
> and soft) and gate position (up or down) made unmeasureable
> differences, and certain bed caps actually increased mpg by a small
> amount. The bed caps they said that made the only real difference was
> the type that had a tight fit with the cab and was also flush with the
> cab.
>
> I know there are people on the list that read both mags, perhaps one
> of them remember more about the article.
>
> Chad
>

Chad,

As soon as you put a cap on and set it close to the cab you are asking
for trouble. When the frame flexes the cap will push a nice dimple into the
cab. I have 2 nice ones. The cab hangs over the bed of the 97-98-99 f-150.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier

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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 17:31:02 -0500
From: "Ronald R. Palmer"
Subject: FTE 97up - Battery Saver

The battery saver is a device which kills power to accessories that were
left on in the truck after 40 mins. this includes the headlights,
domelight, etc. The boss is right.
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Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1998 16:19:05 -0700
From: "Alan Wilson"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Battery Saver

At 05:31 PM 9/3/98 -0500, you wrote:
>The battery saver is a device which kills power to accessories that were
>left on in the truck after 40 mins. this includes the headlights,
>domelight, etc. The boss is right.
>====================================

How can I get one of these?
Alan Wilson


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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1998 20:06:14 -0500
From: "Jack"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - box car #

You could call Ford at 1-800-392-FORD but this will only help if you have
the dealer number and the order number. You can try to call them with the
vin # but I don't think it will help. If you do call just ask for the
status code, it is usually 4 letters followed by 6 numbers or so. Then if
it is on a Union Pacific rail car ( I can't tell you how you would know
this, I just got lucky!) go to www.uprr.com and go to public trace under the
customer section and it will give you details of its local.

Good Luck!
Jack
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From: Janster
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, September 03, 1998 3:10 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - box car #


>Hi folks,
>
>I ordered my F250 SD, 4x4, SWB, super cab, 5.4L truck back on May 1st. I
>finally got an ETA of 25 Sep (I used to be Mr. "ETA Challenged"). I also
>have a VIN. Is there a way to find out what rail road box # it would be
>shipped in without speaking w/ the dealer? I'd rather find out as much
>info on my own before going to the dealer. I hassled him enough about
>getting an ETA; don't want to start hassling him about a rail box #.
>
>Patiently waiting
>
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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1998 02:54:14 GMT
From: tlveik megavision.com (Thomas Veik)
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re:Battery saver

On Thu, 03 Sep 1998 06:50:27 +0000, "David J. Moran"
wrote:

> The battery saver is as your boss says, if you leave your door ajar or
> headlights on, 20-30 min later they are off. It has saved me with the kids
> not closing the door all the way. I got in one morning to go to work
> about 3:00am the truck was dark, when I closed my door the dome light
> would not go off, I checked and the passenger door was not closed all the
> way. Closed everything and was off to work. The second time I saw it in
> action was when I was cleaning and waxing, doors open dome light on, the
> light went off and did not come back on until I closed the doors and opened
> them again.

That sounds like an option I want. Do the Explorers have that? I
didn't see it in the brochure.

- --
Thomas Veik
tlveik ....


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