97up-list-digest Monday, August 24 1998 Volume 01 : Number 192



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - Posting Responses
FTE 97up - PROBLEMS
FTE 97up - PROBLEMS
FTE 97up - Calling All Kentuckians!
Re: FTE 97up - PROBLEMS
Re: FTE 97up - PROBLEMS
Re: FTE 97up - PROBLEMS
FTE 97up - Ford credit card - info requested
FTE 97up - Fifth Wheel Tailgate for F350 SD
Re: FTE 97up - PROBLEMS
FTE 97up - Features Missing..
FTE 97up - Hitch Receiver Cover
Re: FTE 97up - Hitch Receiver Cover
FTE 97up - RE: Auto Door Locks -Reply

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 10:15:09 EDT
From: JDavis1277 aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Posting Responses

This is a great list and resource for all.

I really appreciate it when folks responding to posts/questions do not include
the entire contents of the loooong question/post to which they are responding.
That is truly considerate. Since this is not a newsgroup type discussion
group, everyone has access to the original post.

OTOH, I just don't understand why we have to see the same post over and over
when multiple folks are responding to the same post/question :=)

In the interest of saving band width, etc, if you would like to flame me
please do so at my address rather than on the group. Thanks,

Butch Davis-
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 10:31:21 -0500
From: "Jack Lubinski"
Subject: FTE 97up - PROBLEMS

In reply to a post from Steve S. regarding numberous problems he encountered
so far with his F150. I have had my share of grief with my 97' F250 pickup
(posted earlier) and can understand your frustration.
The latest issue for me is pending replacement of the 5.4 L engine due to
piston slap problems. (dealer is not certain if they corrected the problem
yet) A few of the earlier problems were trans. oil leak, brake fluid leak,
window seal, wiper malf. rusted rims/bumpers, now some rust is showing up
around the rear bumper. Vehicle is less than one year old and has approx
12, 000 miles. All these issues ( plus factory recalls) have resulted in
many return trips to the dealership for corrective action.

Interesting web site you forwarded regarding complaints and re-calls etc. I
will be sending in my "list". Hope others do as well.

Jack Lubinski




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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 10:42:09 -0500
From: "Jack Lubinski"
Subject: FTE 97up - PROBLEMS

I would like to comment on a post sent by Glen See.

You must work for Ford Motor Company.

Jack Lubinski


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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:09:02 -0400
From: The Neighbors
Subject: FTE 97up - Calling All Kentuckians!

Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I usually haunt the Pre '61 list, but I
need to get a message across to more than the people on that list. I
want to compile a list of all FTE people in the Kentucky area. The
reason is that I want to get as many of us together as possible to form
a club that would be associated with the Ford Truck Enthusiasts website.

This would be a dues-paying club with 2 primary purposes:

1. To give us all an excuse to get together and talk about our
trucks
2. To help support this web site we all enjoy.

I am not saying I want to preside over such a club, but I know there

has to be more than just me and Ken Laffoon here in the Bluegrass that
own, drive, and love their Ford truck(s) enough to be associated with
this website. Let's get together and hash it out, and do something that
looks vaguely organized.

- --
Don Neighbors
'54 F250 Named Grover

"Any dropped tool or part will automatically fall into the most
innaccesible part of the vehicle."

grover ford-trucks.com


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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 14:11:34 -0500
From: Glenn See
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - PROBLEMS

Nope, this is my first Ford since the fifties. Had seven Chevrolets and one
Dodge until I bought the 97 LXT ex-cab in Mar. 97. Bought it because it was
the only ex-cab with an 8 foot bed available the day I came in heat to buy a
truck. So far, it has had fewer problems than any pickup that I have owned
in the last fifty years.

While I have various problems over the years, I have never had the multitude
such as those described by some of the writers on this page, maybe I have
just been lucky.

I have never been a Ford man and mine may come unraveled tomorrow, but I
have never been more pleased with a vehicle than I am with this truck.

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 17:29:58 EDT
From: Bear6522 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - PROBLEMS

noticed a solid layer of rust on the side of the rear bumper on my 1997 EB
Expedition (30K) the outside looks fine but the inside was a surprise.
Wonder if this is covered under the warranty?? Any one else seeing this??

It's a Louisiana vehicle so it's not a salt problem.
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 20:18:46 -0500
From: Steve Stavos
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - PROBLEMS

Bear6522 aol.com wrote:
>
> noticed a solid layer of rust on the side of the rear bumper on my 1997 EB
> Expedition (30K) the outside looks fine but the inside was a surprise.
> Wonder if this is covered under the warranty?? Any one else seeing this??
>
> It's a Louisiana vehicle so it's not a salt problem.
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yes it is cover under your warranty, i had my front bumper replaced on
my '97 f150 and my father had his rear bumper replaced on his '97 150
4x4 off road.
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 22:17:35 -0400
From: Lou Mallia
Subject: FTE 97up - Ford credit card - info requested

I am planning on purchasing an F-250 Super Duty later this year. A
friend just informed me that he has a balance of several thousand
dollars in credit which could be used toward the purchase of a Ford
vehicle. He accumulated this credit by using a credit card that I
believe was issued by Ford. At any rate, the balance expires at the end
of this year, and he has no plans to purchase another Ford vehicle.
Does anyone know how this credit works, and whether or not it is
transferable? I guess I could have him purchase the vehicle, but then
I'm concerned that the only way I could get it in my name would be to
purchase it from him, thereby defeating the purpose of using the credit,
by incurring sales tax and possibly terminating the warranty? (Is the
warranty transferrable?).

I hesitate to contact a dealer to discuss this, because I don't want it
to affect the deal on the truck.

Any info would be appreciated.

Lou

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 22:32:00 -0400
From: "jim schang"
Subject: FTE 97up - Fifth Wheel Tailgate for F350 SD

Anybody know of a good source of after market tailgates (and other goodies)
for a '99 F350 Super Duty? I am particularly interested in the type that
has a cutout that allows you to hitch up a fifth wheel trailer without
having to drop the tailgate. I want something that looks good as well as
being functional.

I love my new Ford SD truck!!!

jim

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 21:45:37 -0500
From: Glenn See
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - PROBLEMS

Correction to my earlier post, bought my 97 150 in March of 96, it was
built in Norfolk.

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 23:13:10 -0400
From: Charlie Sumner
Subject: FTE 97up - Features Missing..

I just purchased a Navigator and I noticed some 'features' missing that
I happened to like on previous Ford vehicles. Does anyone know why
these were eliminated?

1. Locking gas cap
2. Cruise control annunciator (no indicator light that tells you that
it's active)
3. Radio: no pre-set indicator to tell you that you are listening to a
preset.

Any other navigator/expedition owners out there?

Charlie
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 23:49:56 -0400
From: Chris Stout
Subject: FTE 97up - Hitch Receiver Cover

I've got a '98 F150 with a towing package and am looking for a Ford logo =
receiver hitch cover. Can anyone tell me of some good online shops or =
others I can call?

Also, does anyone have any stories concerning a bra for the front of the =
truck? I'm getting tired of cleaning the Michigan bugs off the front of =
my truck everytime I go on a trip and am looking at putting a bra on the =
truck. Thoughts? Experiences? Product suggestions?

Thanks!

Chris

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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 23:54:22 EDT
From: BigFords1 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Hitch Receiver Cover

Check Mister 4x4. I saw some FORD hitch covers there.



David
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Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 23:15:48
From: Doug Munday
Subject: FTE 97up - RE: Auto Door Locks -Reply

Another big THANKS to Steven. I have been trying to DeActivate my auto
door locks for 14 months on my 1997 F150! I have asked my dealer numberous
times if there was a way and they just said no.... There is no mention of
this procedure in the 97 manual, but it worked just as you wrote! That
autolock drove me nuts, as I make frequent stops and many times have to
open the passenger door after stopping. If I forgot to 'unlock' before
getting out, I would have to go back around and unlock the damn thing.

Now, if I could only get Ford to fix how the E4OD transmission refuses to
gracefully come out of torque converter lockup!

Thanks again Steven!

Doug Munday
dougmunday shaverlake.com


>Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 14:49:32 -0500
>From: Steven_Bonds Dell.com
>Subject: RE: Auto Door Locks -Reply
>
>I found this on page 37 of my 1998 manual.
>Deactivating/activating the autolock feature
>Before following the procedure, make sure that the ignition is OFF and all
>vehicle doors are closed.
>You must complete steps 1-5 within 30 seconds or the procedure will have to
>be repeated. If the procedure needs to be repeated, you must wait 30
>seconds.
>1. Turn the ignition key to ON.
>2. Press the power door unlock control three times.
>3. Turn the ignition key from ON to OFF.
>4. Press the power door unlock control three times.
>5. Turn the ignition back to ON. The horn will chirp.
>6. Press the unlock control, then press the lock control. The horn will
>chirp once if autolock was deactivated or twice (one short and one long
>chirp) if autolock was activated.
>7. Turn the ignition to OFF. The horn will chirp once to confirm the....

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