97up-list-digest Saturday, August 15 1998 Volume 01 : Number 183



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - 450 spare?
FTE 97up - CD stacker mounting position
FTE 97up - Re: Spare tire
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Spare tire
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Spare tire
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Spare tire
Re: FTE 97up - F450 Questions
Re: FTE 97up - F450 Questions

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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:00:33 -0400
From: Claude King
Subject: FTE 97up - 450 spare?

Nathan had mention that the 450 would have the spare under the frame? The
450 uses the straight and narrow frame for mounting Aux bodies? Is the
spare mounted midship then? Where the tank normal goes. Don't think there
is room between frame rails for the tire. I would really like to know
because I was considering a cab/chassis 350 but didn't think the spare had
any place to go.

//ck

Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:23:12 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F450 Questions


The Spare should be tucked under the frame fairly tight and not affect
ground clearance.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:42:32 -0400
From: Kevin Fowler
Subject: FTE 97up - CD stacker mounting position

Ok, this is a real silly question and reveals me to be the
commuter-in-a-truck whus that I am (but I'm too tall to commute in a
car, so give me a break :-). The F150 I just bought has a 6-CD stacker
in it, installed in the arm rest cavity of the extended cab's back seat,
behind the driver's seat. This has two drawbacks. One, I can't reach it
without getting out of the truck, folding the drivers seat forward and
torquing my upper body into the back. Two, my kids sitting in the back
bench find this an irresistable plaything. Since I've seen the stacker
installed in the center console of the Expedition, is there any reason I
can't have it moved there in my F-150? I have the captain's chairs, so
it has a fixed and spacious center console well that seems able to
accomodate it.

Can the service department be expected to be able to make this change?

Thanks,
Kevin
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:13:02 -0700
From: "Harald"
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Spare tire

>
>A couple of days ago I bought a 99 Ford F-250 Super Duty V8 Diesel with the
quad cab. Imagine my surprise when I got the vehicle home and found there
was no spare tire!
>
>The salesman at the dealership plain forgot to tell me about it, and now
I'm stuck without a spare, or hoist. Parts tells me that it will take 4-6
weeks to get a wheel and hoist in, and then I'll have to buy a tire
somewhere else!
>
>This is the first time I have ever heard of a sparetire being optional on
anything!

My 99 F350 didn't come with a spare either. I had checked Kelly Blue Book's
web page for information when shopping for the truck and it said that a
spare was standard, but that was wrong. The dealer was nice enough to order
the carrier and wheel for me at dealer cost. The local Firestone dealer has
the stock tires available. My total cost is less than $300 which is about
what the spare tire option costs on a factory order. The wheel should be in
this week and I already installed the carrier. It's a snap to install.

Harald

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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:57:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Grund
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Spare tire

Spare tire, ha. My 1998 F250 SD diesel came with a full size spare. I
just went out side to look at the window sticker, "spare tire & wheel
- --- $310.00.
It also came with a wire rope & lock. the salesman
did not know where the key was to the lock!. I told him I will call
him when I get a flat :)

Bill

- ---Harald wrote:
>
> >
> >A couple of days ago I bought a 99 Ford F-250 Super Duty V8 Diesel
with the
> quad cab. Imagine my surprise when I got the vehicle home and found
there
> was no spare tire!
> >
> >The salesman at the dealership plain forgot to tell me about it,
and now
> I'm stuck without a spare, or hoist. Parts tells me that it will
take 4-6
> weeks to get a wheel and hoist in, and then I'll have to buy a tire
> somewhere else!
> >
> >This is the first time I have ever heard of a sparetire being
optional on
> anything!
>
> My 99 F350 didn't come with a spare either. I had checked Kelly
Blue Book's
> web page for information when shopping for the truck and it said
that a
> spare was standard, but that was wrong. The dealer was nice enough
to order
> the carrier and wheel for me at dealer cost. The local Firestone
dealer has
> the stock tires available. My total cost is less than $300 which is
about
> what the spare tire option costs on a factory order. The wheel
should be in
> this week and I already installed the carrier. It's a snap to
install.
>
> Harald
>
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 16:53:08 -0800
From: "Les"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Spare tire

My Kelly Blue Book internet printout shows the spare as an option.

#515 $289

- -----Original Message-----
From: Harald
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, August 14, 1998 7:23 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Spare tire


>>
>>A couple of days ago I bought a 99 Ford F-250 Super Duty V8 Diesel with
the
>quad cab. Imagine my surprise when I got the vehicle home and found there
>was no spare tire!
>>
>>The salesman at the dealership plain forgot to tell me about it, and now
>I'm stuck without a spare, or hoist. Parts tells me that it will take 4-6
>weeks to get a wheel and hoist in, and then I'll have to buy a tire
>somewhere else!
>>
>>This is the first time I have ever heard of a sparetire being optional on
>anything!
>
>My 99 F350 didn't come with a spare either. I had checked Kelly Blue
Book's
>web page for information when shopping for the truck and it said that a
>spare was standard, but that was wrong. The dealer was nice enough to
order
>the carrier and wheel for me at dealer cost. The local Firestone dealer
has
>the stock tires available. My total cost is less than $300 which is about
>what the spare tire option costs on a factory order. The wheel should be
in
>this week and I already installed the carrier. It's a snap to install.
>
>Harald
>
>>
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:05:31 -0500
From: Glenn See
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Spare tire

The spare tire was not standard on a 1954 3/4 ton Ford PU so I guess the
policy is still the same. Glenn

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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:35:00 -0700
From: "BOB ILLINGWORTH"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F450 Questions

Neil:
I have a SD 550 that I made in to a pickup. Crewcab Dually 4X4.
Rear tank. With uickup bed, no place to mount spare. I read the trailer
towing package info and decided not to get it. Standard sway bar and I
didn,t want to spend the 250.$$ for a wiring harness. Well guess what! I
got the wire harness included N/C.
It seems that the wire harness'es are all the same just like the sway bar.
Good luck.
After you drive it and don't like the ride, let me put you on an air ride
system.
Works Great.

Bob I

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> From: Neil Stahl
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 97up - F450 Questions
> Date: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 6:04 AM
>
> I've already ordered this truck, in fact it's probably being
> manufactured right now. But my dealer hasn't been able to give me
> answers I'm confident in to the following questions, and I want to know
> the answers as I finish ordering a body:
> 1. Exactly what is the Trailer Towing package for an F450 Diesel?
> Especially, does it include a receiver hitch?
>
> 2. I ordered a spare tire; seemed prudent. I got the standard fuel
> tank, which is in the very back and is pretty deep. Where will the
> spare tire be attached, and how much ground clearance will there be
> below it? (I got a crew cab, in case that's pertinent.)
>
> 3. Is there an aftermarket engine brake yet for this engine; one that
> doesn't put my warranty in any danger?
>
> Thanks for your help.
> Neil Stahl
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 21:39:50 -0700
From: "BOB ILLINGWORTH"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F450 Questions

Nathan:
I did not order the trailer package because the stabilizer is standard. All
the wires were on the chasis. Found no place to mount spare on 550 pickup.
Trailer wires are not worth the 250.?? Ford wants.

Keep up the good work.
Bob I

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> From: Union Auto
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F450 Questions
> Date: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 8:23 AM
>
> Trailer towing consists of:
> Front stabilizer bar
> 7 wire harness (located on back of frame where bumper would be)
> Trailer brake wiring kit
> HD 78 AH (750 CCA) battery (not applicable to Diesel because dual
> batteries are std.)
> HD 130 Amp. Alternator (gas engine only)
> The class IV receiver hitch is an option separate from this.
>
> The Spare should be tucked under the frame fairly tight and not affect
> ground clearance.
>
> Nathan Bernard
> Union Auto, Inc.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Stahl
> To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
> Date: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 9:29 AM
> Subject: FTE 97up - F450 Questions
>
>
> >I've already ordered this truck, in fact it's probably being
> >manufactured right now. But my dealer hasn't been able to give me
> >answers I'm confident in to the following questions, and I want to know
> >the answers as I finish ordering a body:
> >1. Exactly what is the Trailer Towing package for an F450 Diesel?
> >Especially, does it include a receiver hitch?
> >
> >2. I ordered a spare tire; seemed prudent. I got the standard fuel
> >tank, which is in the very back and is pretty deep. Where will the
> >spare tire be attached, and how much ground clearance will there be
> >below it? (I got a crew cab, in case that's pertinent.)
> >
> >3. Is there an aftermarket engine brake yet for this engine; one that
> >doesn't put my warranty in any danger?
> >
> >Thanks for your help.....


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