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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - 1999 Super Duty
FTE 97up - Questions about gas tank, tow package, anti-theft system, CD chan ger
FTE 97up - FOR SALE
FTE 97up - Towing Speed???
Re: FTE 97up - Towing Speed???
Re: FTE 97up - Towing Speed???
Re: FTE 97up - Towing Speed???
Re: FTE 97up - Towing Speed???
Re: FTE 97up - Towing Speed???
Re: FTE 97up - Towing Speed???
FTE 97up - Computer is finally working
Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty Leather on Lariat
Re: FTE 97up - On Net Info Of Dealer Costs & The Accuracy Thereof
Re: FTE 97up - Computer is finally working
Re: FTE 97up - Towing Speed???
Re: FTE 97up - FOR SALE
RE: FTE 97up - F-250 vs F-350
Re: FTE 97up - 97 F-150 Spare Tire
RE: FTE 97up - F-250 vs F-350
FTE 97up - Re: F-250 vs F-350
Re: FTE 97up - F-250 vs F-350
FTE 97up - Cat removal on 99 Superduty???
Re: FTE 97up - FOR SALE
FTE 97up - ExtraCare vs PremiumCare Warranties
Re: FTE 97up - Cat removal on 99 Superduty???

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:06:11 EDT
From: John941 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 1999 Super Duty

The power mirrors do fold in
John
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:47:38 -0400
From: Doug Moore
Subject: FTE 97up - Questions about gas tank, tow package, anti-theft system, CD chan ger

>2. TOW PACKAGE. When I ordered options XH9 (3.55 ratio limited
slip axle) >and 535 (trailer towing package), I was under the impression
that it came >with everything I needed to tow should I decide to do that.
However, a >friend looking at my truck said "where's the tow hitch on the
bumper?" All
>I see is an electrical outlet and a large square connector beneath
the >bumper which is where I thought the trailer ball attached. I thought
the >ball was supposed to come with the tow package. I guess not. How is
it >supposed to work?


If you get down and look up underneath, you'll see that that a receiver
*(and a nice one, in my opinion). This type of hitch is better that the
bumper hitch. The only thing missing is the ball and the ball mount, which
together shouldn't cost you $35 or less for a simple one. They can't
include this in the package because your needs will vary depending on what
you tow. Trailer heights vary, and there are at least 3 different ball
sizes in use to match various trailers. If you got a question go a good
trailer shop or hitch shop and most are happy to educate you. By if you
order a CLUB WAGON and the trailer towing package the receiver does not come
with it at all. Real pain and a good receiver (10,000 LBS) cost say 250+.
If you are net serf the web site I found is http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hitch-web.com
Congratulations on your new truck.
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 98 9:16:48 CDT
From: "David Price"
Subject: FTE 97up - FOR SALE

1997 F150 XLT SuperCab SWB
White, Gray Interior, 16,000 miles
4.6L V8, Automatic, Sliding Rear window,
Captains Chairs, 6 Disc CD Player, Towing Package,
Side Rails, Bug Shield, Bed Mat, K&N Filter, SuperChip,
Borla Catback Dual Exhaust, Tinted Windows, OEM Alarm and Factory Floor
Mats.

This truck has a trade in value of $18,600.00...I'm asking $19,250.00

I might consider selling some of the items seperate.

Borla Exhaust: $200
SuperChip: $100
K&N: $35

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:43:36 -0500
From: JJ/Rae
Subject: FTE 97up - Towing Speed???

We will be towing the wife's car on a Tow Dolly and when I asked what
speed should we travel at I got the standard reply, don't go over 45
mph. this seems rather slow on interstate with a 75 mph speed limit.
Does anybody have any experience towing with a tow dolly and what would
a reasonable speed be on interstate.

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USAF Security Forces ICQ # 14108174
1997 F-250HD XLT Powerstroke Diesel 4x4, SC, SB, 5sp, 4.10,
285/75R16 BFG/MT's, K&N Filter, Lund bug deflector,
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 08:59:56 -0700
From: alanh galaxy.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Towing Speed???

> Does anybody have any experience towing with a tow dolly and what
> would a reasonable speed be on interstate.

"Reasonable" is such a subjective term...in California the legal
speed limit for trucks and autos with trailers is 55. That doesn't
mean that every single truck and auto with a trailer out there is
going 55 - and probably every state has their own version of this.

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:55:59 EDT
From: BlankfortJ aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Towing Speed???

Just drive as fast as you feel is safe. If it starts to wobble ... back
off... Otherwise hammer down!

John

In a message dated 7/14/98 9:01:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
alanh galaxy.nsc.com writes:

Does anybody have any experience towing with a tow dolly and what
> would a reasonable speed be on interstate.

"Reasonable" is such a subjective term...in California the legal
speed limit for trucks and autos with trailers is 55. That doesn't
mean that every single truck and auto with a trailer out there is
going 55 - and probably every state has their own version of this.
>>
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:42:06 -0700
From: WiNk
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Towing Speed???

Most states that I am familiar with restrict "trucks" and vehicles towing
trailers to 55 mph. Some states don't have any towing speeds indicated, in
which case I would think that if the trailing vehicle sways then it is a
reasonable reason to slow down to a lesser speed.

JJ/Rae wrote:

> We will be towing the wife's car on a Tow Dolly and when I asked what
> speed should we travel at I got the standard reply, don't go over 45
> mph. this seems rather slow on interstate with a 75 mph speed limit.
> Does anybody have any experience towing with a tow dolly and what would
> a reasonable speed be on interstate.
>
> --
> USAF Security Forces ICQ # 14108174
> 1997 F-250HD XLT Powerstroke Diesel 4x4, SC, SB, 5sp, 4.10,
> 285/75R16 BFG/MT's, K&N Filter, Lund bug deflector,
> http://www.ford-trucks.com/pictorial/big/1997_f250_1.html
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.talkcity.com/GasolineAlley/butwhy/index.html
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:47:29 -0700
From: WiNk
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Towing Speed???

Speed for me isn't the problem. I have more of a focus on "stopping"
distance at a given speed. I also have a question on how much weight an
F-150 can handle when the towed vehicle hasn't got any brakes on it.

Will a half ton have the same truck braking surface area as a 3/4 or 1 ton ?

Can a 1/2 ton handle a trailer load of 5,000 lbs without having any towed
vehicle brakes.

Will a 1/2 ton with a 5,000 lb towed trailer without brakes, be able to
keep the vehicle speed down to 20 or 30 mph on a 6%, 6 mile downgrade
without cooking the truck brakes?

Thanks for any info.

BlankfortJ aol.com wrote:

> Just drive as fast as you feel is safe. If it starts to wobble ... back
> off... Otherwise hammer down!
>
> John
>
> In a message dated 7/14/98 9:01:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> alanh galaxy.nsc.com writes:
>
> Does anybody have any experience towing with a tow dolly and what
> > would a reasonable speed be on interstate.
>
> "Reasonable" is such a subjective term...in California the legal
> speed limit for trucks and autos with trailers is 55. That doesn't
> mean that every single truck and auto with a trailer out there is
> going 55 - and probably every state has their own version of this.
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:07:40 -0700
From: alanh galaxy.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Towing Speed???

> Will a half ton have the same truck braking surface area as a 3/4 or 1 ton ?

Absolutely not! A typical 1/2 ton today is a funny-looking car. The
frame, suspension, and everything else has been designed to give a
smooth ride like a car. There are "heavy halfs" available, but I don't
think they do much to the brakes on them.

> Can a 1/2 ton handle a trailer load of 5,000 lbs without having any towed
> vehicle brakes.

Yes. Can it handle that load safely? Only if the driver is constantly
aware of his surroundings, and drives extremely conservatively. Double
your interval with traffic in front of you, and keep the speed down,
and level ground won't be a problem. Climbing grades will be a chore,
and descending the other side will be an adventure! Most jurisdictions
require trailer brakes on anything over 3,500 lb. and some go as low as
1,500 lb.

> Will a 1/2 ton with a 5,000 lb towed trailer without brakes, be able to
> keep the vehicle speed down to 20 or 30 mph on a 6%, 6 mile downgrade
> without cooking the truck brakes?

Not with the brakes themselves. If you've got a manual transmission, then
use the gears to keep the speed down. If it's an automatic, then you'll
lose some engine braking in the torque converter and speed will be a
problem.

If it were me, I'd rent a flatbed trailer with brakes and tow that, rather
than try to tow that much without brakes.

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:38:15 -0700
From: WiNk
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Towing Speed???

Thanks for confirming my thoughts. My thoughts were that there might be a slight
chance that I might have been able to do the deed with just truck brakes.

I concur with the responses to the questions posed concerning the towing dilema.
Thanks for the quick response.
WiNk


The Hepburn wrote:

> > Will a half ton have the same truck braking surface area as a 3/4 or 1 ton ?
>
> Absolutely not! A typical 1/2 ton today is a funny-looking car. The
> frame, suspension, and everything else has been designed to give a
> smooth ride like a car. There are "heavy halfs" available, but I don't
> think they do much to the brakes on them.
>
> > Can a 1/2 ton handle a trailer load of 5,000 lbs without having any towed
> > vehicle brakes.
>
> Yes. Can it handle that load safely? Only if the driver is constantly
> aware of his surroundings, and drives extremely conservatively. Double
> your interval with traffic in front of you, and keep the speed down,
> and level ground won't be a problem. Climbing grades will be a chore,
> and descending the other side will be an adventure! Most jurisdictions
> require trailer brakes on anything over 3,500 lb. and some go as low as
> 1,500 lb.
>
> > Will a 1/2 ton with a 5,000 lb towed trailer without brakes, be able to
> > keep the vehicle speed down to 20 or 30 mph on a 6%, 6 mile downgrade
> > without cooking the truck brakes?
>
> Not with the brakes themselves. If you've got a manual transmission, then
> use the gears to keep the speed down. If it's an automatic, then you'll
> lose some engine braking in the torque converter and speed will be a
> problem.
>
> If it were me, I'd rent a flatbed trailer with brakes and tow that, rather
> than try to tow that much without brakes.
>
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>
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:37:18 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - Computer is finally working

I am finally back. My modem got cooked in a lightening storm a few weeks
ago, and I found out how good my 24 hour service from Comp USA is (two weeks
= 24 hour service I don't think so) so I'll try to answer questions as soon
as I can.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.


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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:46:52 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Duty Leather on Lariat

Haven't heard anything about any other leather being offered on Lariat's so
I wouldn't expect it any time soon.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

- -----Original Message-----
From: LanceLana aol.com
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Saturday, July 11, 1998 12:17 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Super Duty Leather on Lariat


>Does anyone have information on if and when graphite colored leather
interior
>will be available with the SD Lariat? At the moment the dealers show only
>saddle tan with the leather.
>
>Lance (waiting to order SD)


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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:53:53 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - On Net Info Of Dealer Costs & The Accuracy Thereof

The net prices are usually pretty accurate. If their is a price increase it
takes a few weeks before they update to it. Also they don't have a few of
the small fees that are charged by Ford (fuel and FDAF) but 99% of the time
they are within $200.

As for Ford employee prices they are only available to people employed by
Ford motor company. They are about $1000 under invoice. The dealership
gets reimbursed by Ford to cover the difference and we also get a sales
commission. There is no way to get this unless you are a Ford employee or
Family of one.

Nathan Bernard
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:17:13 -0500
From: "Jack B"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Computer is finally working

Welcome back Nathan! Wondered where you'd been. Got any pix's f the new
150? What about pricing, do you know when pricing will be available?
Jack

- -----Original Message-----
From: Union Auto
To: Ford Truck Enthusiast
Date: Tuesday, July 14, 1998 14:40
Subject: FTE 97up - Computer is finally working


>I am finally back. My modem got cooked in a lightening storm a few weeks
>ago, and I found out how good my 24 hour service from Comp USA is (two
weeks
>= 24 hour service I don't think so) so I'll try to answer questions as soon
>as I can.
>
>Nathan Bernard
>Union Auto, Inc.
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:28:07 EDT
From: Dirtracr7 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Towing Speed???

I tow a 26 ft. enclosed race car trailer loaded(total weight with loaded
trailer 15,000 lbs.) on the highway with my 99 F350 crew drw.I have gone as
fast as 80(which can be unsafe) but tow normally at 65 mph.
Mark K.
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:58:25 -0500
From: daryl.rue juno.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - FOR SALE

Do you have to pay sales tax on the new vehicle, if you are trading? Do
you have to pay on the traded value? In nebraska you would be losing
money to sell it that little over actual cash trade value.

Daryl
On Tue, 14 Jul 98 9:16:48 CDT "David Price"
writes:
>1997 F150 XLT SuperCab SWB
>White, Gray Interior, 16,000 miles
>4.6L V8, Automatic, Sliding Rear window,
>Captains Chairs, 6 Disc CD Player, Towing Package,
>Side Rails, Bug Shield, Bed Mat, K&N Filter, SuperChip,
>Borla Catback Dual Exhaust, Tinted Windows, OEM Alarm and Factory
>Floor
>Mats.
>
>This truck has a trade in value of $18,600.00...I'm asking $19,250.00
>
>I might consider selling some of the items seperate.
>
>Borla Exhaust: $200
>SuperChip: $100
>K&N: $35
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:02:52 -0500
From: "Beaman, James"
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - F-250 vs F-350

John Blankfort wrote:

> If the truck is a purly only a tow veichel than I'd go with the 350 DRW
> for
> the stability of the DRW. Otherwise I'd go with the 250 becuase of the
> better
> ride quality, same tow capacity and the fact that unloaded it won't kill
> your
> kidneys going down the road.
>
Actually, I think tow capacity will be greater with a 250. The GCWR will be
the same but since the 250 will be a little lighter than the similarly
configured 350, that weight can be added on to the trailer.

James Beaman
james.beaman lmco.com
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:08:49 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 97 F-150 Spare Tire

Ford Accessories has a spare tire lock that blocks the tube that the crank
slides into.

Nathan Bernard
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From: joe silk
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Friday, July 10, 1998 11:10 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - 97 F-150 Spare Tire


>Recently changed out a flat and noticed that the spare tire sidewall(17
inch
>wheel) has rubbed against against the spare tire winch frame support. I
>have had the truck for 18 months and it has about 17Kmiles on it.
>Fortunately the wear didn't affect the tire and I drove it for about 130
>miles until I got the other tire fixed at the closest town.
>Any comments, suggestions? I think this tire qualifies for a replacement
>from Ford.
>As a temporarily fix, I have placed an old bicycle tire between the tire
and
>the frame support.
>
>One other item: Does anyone have a source for a spare tire lock(no cables)
>on the 97 F-150.
>
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:31:41 -0700
From: alanh galaxy.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - F-250 vs F-350

> Actually, I think tow capacity will be greater with a 250. The GCWR
> will be the same but since the 250 will be a little lighter than the
> similarly configured 350, that weight can be added on to the trailer.

This is something that has intrigued me for a while; if the F250 has a
higher capacity, then why build an F350? If I am going to buy a Crew
Cab Duallie for towing a 12,000 lb fifth wheel, why would I even think
of an F350 if the F250 has a higher capacity?

Maybe someone from Ford can enlighten us? Exactly what makes the F350
different from the F250?

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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:45:34 -0400
From: Lee Haefele
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: F-250 vs F-350

>I've never owned a truck before and I'm hoping that some of you with
>experience can help me out. I intend to buy a 5th wheel that will weigh
>about 13,200 lbs loaded with a hitch weight of 2,200 lbs. It appears
>250 or a 350 can pull the same amount of weight. So, what truck is better
>for this trailer? I want to get the 7.3L diesel. So what is better with the
>diesel, the 4-speed auto or the 6 speed standard? Also, if I went with the
>F-350, is it better to go SRW or DRW?
I highly recommend the DRW, I own 6 right now. Having carried heavy
loads on SRW before, the DRW is about 5 times as stable on the highway,
and...at this weight, if you blow a tire on a SRW, you are DEAD. 10% of
DRW small trucks are running around with 1 flat dual & don't even know
it! Possibly with this much weight, you should consider F-450.
Auto vs standard? I have a 99 F350 V-10 auto, it seems much easier to
thread it through traffic not having to fool with the shift. When I
didn't have to drive through the city, I liked the std fine. I wish the
auto would let me set the shift points though. I have 1 Diesel F-350
non turbo STD, I hate it, don't like the delayed power & slow to wind up
motor, don,t know if I would like it better with auto or not. You should
probably test drive both. The Ford 5 sp STD has been very reliable,
the autos to date have not. I am hoping this new model auto tranny is
good, the 6 spd looks impressive, did you know it has an oil pump &
cooler?.
Lee Haefele
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:39:57 -0700
From: johny
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-250 vs F-350

Payload at least.

In comparing the SC 250 to 350 SRW 4x4 the payload rating is about 900lbs in the

350's favor. I haven't compared 250's and 350's to see if brakes are different.
Indications i've *heard* here say there is no difference,.

When I was doing research on the 97's, running gear on the brakes were no
different on the 250/350 according to the Helm manual. Anyone say different?

That being said, I have a 99 141" wb, F350 SC SRW with PSD and 55 lbs of
air at all 4 corners (265/75/16). with all the camper/towing packages. The ride
is surprisingly smooth. I can only believe a CC long bed dually, is going
to ride even smoother.

- -john


The Hepburn wrote:

> > Actually, I think tow capacity will be greater with a 250. The GCWR
> > will be the same but since the 250 will be a little lighter than the
> > similarly configured 350, that weight can be added on to the trailer.
>
> This is something that has intrigued me for a while; if the F250 has a
> higher capacity, then why build an F350? If I am going to buy a Crew
> Cab Duallie for towing a 12,000 lb fifth wheel, why would I even think
> of an F350 if the F250 has a higher capacity?
>
> Maybe someone from Ford can enlighten us? Exactly what makes the F350
> different from the F250?
>
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>
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> Santa Clara, Ca | Vast Right Wing Conspiracy |
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 23:33:03 -0500
From: Michael Ruth
Subject: FTE 97up - Cat removal on 99 Superduty???

I need some opinions on removing my Catalytic converter... An
acquaintance told me he had his cat removed on his 99 superduty 7.3
powerstroke and picked up 3 mpg. He said he contacted a local dealer on
this and they said it was not necessary and would do no harm removing
the factory cat. Other than emissions it has no major need o be there.
In my state diesels are exempt from Emission inspection. Can anyone
tell me why I should NOT do this other than being unkind to the
earth??? How do you feel, Nathan from Union Auto??
Thanks,
Mike
xplorit erols.com
99 Superduty Lariat SC PS 4X4
94 Explorer E.B. 4X4
89 Bronco II XLT 4X4
89 Merkur Scorpio
89 Merkur XR4Ti
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:58:46 -0600
From: Eddie Torres
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - FOR SALE

If you do wish to sell items seperately, how much for the CD Player?
What brand is it, play through FM?

David Price wrote:
>
> 1997 F150 XLT SuperCab SWB
> White, Gray Interior, 16,000 miles
> 4.6L V8, Automatic, Sliding Rear window,
> Captains Chairs, 6 Disc CD Player, Towing Package,
> Side Rails, Bug Shield, Bed Mat, K&N Filter, SuperChip,
> Borla Catback Dual Exhaust, Tinted Windows, OEM Alarm and Factory Floor
> Mats.
>
> This truck has a trade in value of $18,600.00...I'm asking $19,250.00
>
> I might consider selling some of the items seperate.
>
> Borla Exhaust: $200
> SuperChip: $100
> K&N: $35
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 23:01:53 -0600
From: pmeanea
Subject: FTE 97up - ExtraCare vs PremiumCare Warranties

Regarding warranties----I have been considering Warranty Gold---I think
for a new vehicle it would be about $1100 for 7 year--100,000 mile
coverage for your PU if it is like mine (F-150, ext cab, 5.4 engine
4X4)---
Apparently you can sign up for the new vehicle warranty as long as you
have at least 1,000 miles and 1 year left on factory warranty.
An extended warranty basically covers you starting at the end of the
factory warranty so the price you pay would cover you for 4 years and
64,000 miles if you buy a 7yr 100,000 mile extended warranty. For more
info, I think the web address is: www.warrantygold.com

I would not buy warranty from dealer as I think these are mostly
overpriced. It is apparently one of the dealer's high profit items,
especially for the un-informed. If you believe in "Murphy's Law", most
certainly get the extended warranty, at least long enough to get you to
the end of your payments! I would not be able to afford both a
transmission replacement and truck payment at the same time.
If further questions, you can contact me by email. Like I said, I will
most likely go with a 7 yr, 100,000 mile from warranty gold for my own
unit. Hope this helps--

Are there any reputable third-party warranties with better coverage and
comparable costs that I should consider? Or should I just take my
chances?






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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:05:05 -0700
From: Bob Illingworth
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Cat removal on 99 Superduty???


Mike:
i am interested in this response. I too am exempt but a ford tech told
me the PCM measures back pressure and the engine does not run well without
backpressure!!!
Don't you just love computer controlled vehicles?
....

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