97up-list-digest Wednesday, June 24 1998 Volume 01 : Number 128



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - More on Mach Stereo
FTE 97up - delivery date
Re: FTE 97up - delivery date
FTE 97up - 99 F250SD with 4R100 auto, no PTO
FTE 97up - Re: Ford Medium Duty Trucks
Re: FTE 97up - More on Mach Stereo
Re: FTE 97up - Voiding the warranty..
Re: FTE 97up - delivery date
Re: FTE 97up - 99 F250SD with 4R100 auto, no PTO
FTE 97up - Is 80.4" the real cab heigth for a F250 SD 4x4 supercab?
Re: FTE 97up - delivery date
FTE 97up - Ford Medium Duty Trucks
re: FTE 97up - Ford Medium Duty Trucks
Re: FTE 97up - Ford Medium Duty Trucks
Re: FTE 97up - Height of 1998 F150 4x4 Supercab SB
FTE 97up - 99 superduty - dual alternator package?
Re: FTE 97up - 99 superduty - dual alternator package?
FTE 97up - Re: F-150 Service Manual
Re: FTE 97up - delivery date
Re: FTE 97up - delivery date
Re: FTE 97up - More on Mach Stereo
FTE 97up - Steering Stabilizers, Cepek Vs Rancho
Re: FTE 97up - 99 F250SD with 4R100 auto, no PTO
FTE 97up - Steering Stabilizers, Cepek Vs Rancho/RTC REPLY
FTE 97up - yadda - yet another delivery date advisory
Re: FTE 97up - yadda - yet another delivery date advisory

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 98 7:46:18 -0400
From: psmith1 os.dhhs.gov
Subject: FTE 97up - More on Mach Stereo

Thanks for all the feedback, though I'm still a little confused. I HAVE
experienced an after market multi-amp, subwoofer system (I have a Kenwood
system in my '86 Ranger). I owned a '93 Taurus with the JBL system and was
reasonably pleased although it didn't hold a candle to my Kenwood system.
There is no question that an after market system would probably end up
being a better system overall than the Mach system--but for a price. Some
preliminary estimates for the after market equipment include receiver
($300-$400), amps(2 or 3 at $150-$250 each), speakers (lots of
possiblilities but at least $300-$400) and a CD changer ($300-$400). And
all this doesn't include installation costs (my time or an auto stereo
shop). Makes the Eddie Bauer Mach system sound reasonable, huh! My rough
calculations suggest the Mach system adds $1200-$1500 to the price of the
vehicle. (Most of the other Eddie Bauer options can be added to an XLT,
bringing the XLT to approx $1200 less than the Eddie Bauer.)

Nathan, is it possible to get an Eddie Bauer with no Mach system but have
all the wiring in place? I'm really not anxious to take apart a brand new
$35k truck to install such a system, especially if there is no speaker
wiring in place.

Thanks again. This discussion medium is the only way to go!! :)

Pierre

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:24:32 -0500
From: Janster
Subject: FTE 97up - delivery date

Hi folks,

I ordered a '99 F250 SD 4X4 on 1 May 98. The dealer told me it would be
about six months before delivery as it's a new model and the demand is
very high. As of today, I haven't been given an ETA from the dealer.
Does anybody know if there is a website, 1-800#, or some dealer-speak
that I can use to find out the ETA? Or am I relegated to waiting 5 1/2
months before knowing when it'll be delivered?

ETA challenged
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:51:56 -0400
From: "John Fickett"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - delivery date

>I ordered a '99 F250 SD 4X4 on 1 May 98. The dealer told me
it would be
>about six months before delivery as it's a new model and
the demand is
>very high. As of today, I haven't been given an ETA from
the dealer.
>Does anybody know if there is a website, 1-800#, or some
dealer-speak
>that I can use to find out the ETA?>

I ordered a F350 SD Powerstroke the last part of May and
within days I had a delivery date of 6/22. I checked with
the dealer last night and the truck is about 200 miles away
and will be here today or tomorrow. You should not have to
wait weeks for a ship date. You are getting the runaround.

John in Maine - The way life *should* be.
RV Club - R-CHAR-00253, ICQ - 13024030


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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: STEVEN.BAKER roche.com
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 F250SD with 4R100 auto, no PTO

In regards to the transmission noise issue:

Is this being experienced right from the beginning?

I have a 99F250SD with the 4R100, no PTO (Powerstroke) that
is only a few days old with about 400 miles on it. I have not
noticed any noise from the transmission, but I am wondering
if the 'problem' (if there is indeed, a problem) shows up
after a few more miles.

Thanks,

Steve
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 07:54:54 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: Ford Medium Duty Trucks

I've read Ford articles that say "Watch for more Super Duty F-series models
in the spring of 1999". I've heard rumors that there is going to be a F-650
and F-750 available then. I would expect to see a standard Power Stroke
> under the hood. The main reason for this is that any Ford dealership can do
maintenance on this engine whereas the Cummins used in the F-800 (and other
Navistar engines that could be) can't be worked on by most dealerships.
This is a major selling point for people that are going to use these trucks
over the road.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.
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From: Randy Robb
To: fordtrucks97up ListService.net ; Union
Auto
Date: Monday, June 22, 1998 4:58 PM
Subject: Ford Medium Duty Trucks


>I just stopped at the Ford web site
> >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fordvehicles.com/worktrucks/ and see the medium duty F-800 is
>now available. I must say I'm disappointed, no crew cab option, no air
>suspension, the baby Cummins ISB, and auto transmission only available
>in the light duty configuration. Is this what Ford's going to offer, or
>is there more to come? I was hoping to see the 250-300 HP Navistar or
>Cummins diesel, an Allison MD series transmission and the above
>mentioned features that would accentuate this model above the F-550 in
>power and performance.

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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:01:24 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - More on Mach Stereo

I don't know if the wiring would be there or not on a Eddie Bauer. There is
a good chance of it. Ford has been trying to standardize wiring harnesses.
For example, if you want to add cruise or A/C to a F-150 the wiring is all
there and the add on kit uses all the same parts as the factory. When your
done you can't tell the difference from add on to factory.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

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From: psmith1 os.dhhs.gov
To: 97up-list-digest ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 7:16 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - More on Mach Stereo
>
>Nathan, is it possible to get an Eddie Bauer with no Mach system but have
>all the wiring in place? I'm really not anxious to take apart a brand new
>$35k truck to install such a system, especially if there is no speaker
>wiring in place.
>
>Thanks again. This discussion medium is the only way to go!! :)
>
>Pierre


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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:13:17 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Voiding the warranty..

This is a touchy area. The way I understand, if you do something that
causes the problem it's not covered. If you don't affect what breaks it is
still covered. Remote starters to me would make it your responsibility if
you had a problem in the wiring harness where it was spliced from the remote
starter (I've seen it several times) where if it were the factory wiring
broken it would be warranty. To me a suspension lift kit would void your
warranty on differentials, and transfer case due to changing drive line
angles has a tendency to cause problems. This is such a gray area that I
would ask the dealer where your going to have repair work done at what they
consider the modification that you are doing.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

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From: rw
To: 97up
Date: Saturday, June 20, 1998 6:11 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - Voiding the warranty..


>I have heard in the past that someone did this or that to their vechicle
and
>that voided the warranty. Where does one find it? Didn't see it in the
>owners manual. And is there a rescource somewhere that lists these? I was
>thinking of adding a remote start or maybe lifting my truck up a bit. Does
>anyone know if these will void the warranty?
>
>
>
>Thanks


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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:14:19 EDT
From: John941 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - delivery date

A 5 1/2 month wait is way too long. I would try another dealer.
John
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:15:36 EDT
From: John941 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 F250SD with 4R100 auto, no PTO

I also have a new(600 miles) PSD and have no transmission noise.
John
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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 08:20:02 -0500
From: Jim Cole
Subject: FTE 97up - Is 80.4" the real cab heigth for a F250 SD 4x4 supercab?

The reason I ask is I measured my garage and its like 6' 10" tall at the
lowest point.

Can someone please do me a big favor and measure it?

thanks
- -Jim Cole


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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:02:51 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - delivery date

It all depends on where you ordered from. Right now if I ordered a sold
unit it would take about 8 weeks (its been six but the plant will be shut
down for two weeks in July). However I sell a lot of HD trucks (sales
history determines how many you get). Most of the dealers I talk to tell me
they have a 3 to 4 month backlog. I don't know of any way to find out your
ETA other than our Fordstar computer. You won't have an ETA until about 8
weeks before delivery anyway. Until then it will just say "Clean
Unscheduled Order".

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

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From: Janster
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 1998 7:40 AM
Subject: FTE 97up - delivery date


>Hi folks,
>
>I ordered a '99 F250 SD 4X4 on 1 May 98. The dealer told me it would be
>about six months before delivery as it's a new model and the demand is
>very high. As of today, I haven't been given an ETA from the dealer.
>Does anybody know if there is a website, 1-800#, or some dealer-speak
>that I can use to find out the ETA? Or am I relegated to waiting 5 1/2
>months before knowing when it'll be delivered?
>
>ETA challenged


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Date: Tue, 23 Jun 1998 09:48:54 -0500
From: Randy Robb
Subject: FTE 97up - Ford Medium Duty Trucks

> WATCH OUT FOR THE 550. I HAVE ONE AND LOVE IT BUT THE COST IS TO HIGH.
> ONLY 8MPG

Wow Bob, don't you have the 5 ton box in it? Is it loaded? I'd keep
taking it back and complaining, possibly to another dealer. Empty and
loaded MPG the same, something doesn't seem right!

The reason I'm looking for something bigger then the F-550 is because of....

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