97up-list-digest Saturday, June 20 1998 Volume 01 : Number 124



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In this issue:

FTE 97up - F-150 1997 Manuals ?
Re: FTE 97up - Performance
Re: FTE 97up - F-150 1997 Manuals ?
RE: FTE 97up - Re: FTE 97up-97up questions
FTE 97up - Performance
FTE 97up - 1999 SD paint changes
FTE 97up - Re:F350 vacuum brakes
FTE 97up - Owner loyalty rebates
Re: FTE 97up - Owner loyalty rebates
Re: FTE 97up - Re: FTE 97up-97up questions
Re: FTE 97up - Re: FTE 97up-97up questions
FTE 97up - ADMIN: New performance list

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 07:17:07 -0400
From: ray
Subject: FTE 97up - F-150 1997 Manuals ?

Are there any repair maintenance Manuals out there for a 1997 F-150?
Ray

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:30:05 -0400
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Performance

If I might bother you to reply again... What gears do you have?

Chad

jdb pacbell.net wrote:

> I have a F-350 Supercab 4X4 V-10 carrying a 10 1/2 ft Bigfoot camper and
> I've averaged 10 mpg with mostly highway driving (but hilly not flat).
> Without the camper but highway I get about 12 mpg but in stop and go
> traffic it gets about 8 mpg. This is about 1 month of experience (2000
> miles).
>
> Jim Spillman wrote:
> >
> > On two prior occasions, I have asked owners of '99 SD truck with the V-10
> > Triton to come forth with some experience with fuel consumption. C'mon,
> > share your findings when driving the truck empty and also when towing.
> > Specifics about what you are towing would be helpful.
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 06:21:06 -0700
From: WiNk
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - F-150 1997 Manuals ?

Some libraries have Chilton, Motors, Mitchel and some of these are on CD
ROM.


ray wrote:

> Are there any repair maintenance Manuals out there for a 1997 F-150?
> Ray
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 08:45:55 -0700
From: Jay Murphy
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Re: FTE 97up-97up questions

When you say idle comfort, what do you mean. I've been after Ford for my
"rough" idling 97 f150 5.4L since shortly after I got it last July. It now
has 13,000 miles and I've had the engine replaced due to piston slap, and it
still has the same problem. Ford says they are aware of the problem and "are
working" on a solution. What has your experience been. How about anyone else
out there?

Thanks,
Jay

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Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: FTE 97up-97up questions


So far, I have been please with the performance of my 5.4L, F-150, 4wd
Lariet
super cab. Idle comfort is not high, but overall performance is good
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 13:21:58 EDT
From: ROBBCWZ aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Performance

FYI I have an E-350 van with the V-10 Triton, 17,000 miles and usually rides
with 12 to 14 folks onboard. Overall average has been 11-to-12 mpg. The last
3-tanks have given 13.4mpg.




From: Bill
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Performance

I was talking to a guy yesterday with a V-10 and 3.73 rear end F-250, he
pulls a 4 horse trailer and when loaded he's getting 8 and 9 mpg, running
without the trailer on open road about 12 mpg. Reports pulling power is
good, but thinks with the same load in mountains the 4. something rear would
be a better choice. He hates the outside mirrors as every bump in the road
they move. That's all I have to offer.

Jim Spillman wrote:

> On two prior occasions, I have asked owners of '99 SD truck with the V-10
> Triton to come forth with some experience with fuel consumption.

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 12:43:23 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - 1999 SD paint changes

The Color Deep Blue (LE) has balanced out on 1999 Super Duty's. This means
that if you don't have a VIN for your truck this color will not be
available.

More news on the New colors. Sometime in August Dark Wedgwood Blue will be
available (LL) and also Dark Toreador Red (JL). The Violet color was not on
the list so I look for it to get discontinued also.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.
Ford-Mercury


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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:57:41 -0700
From: Lee Haefele
Subject: FTE 97up - Re:F350 vacuum brakes

I am the one with the overly "hard" brake pedal on 99 F350, 4x4, DRW, v10
gas,SC, cab-chassis (now utility body & aerial lift). I thought I
remembered "hydro boost" brakes specified, but I got vacuum booster
delivered...and it doesn't work! (I do have an apointment for tuesday,
to see if there is any fix.)
I got out my window sticker...it specifies under FUNCTIONAL: HYDRO BOOST
BRAKES.
I the went to the dealer, checked his spec book:1999 SUPER DUTY F-350
CHASSIS CAB, MAJOR STANDARD EQUIPMENT, Pg#2, 2-2-98..."BRAKES (4X4):
Power vacuum boost(3), footnote(3):NA with diesel engine or DRW, diesel
engine or DRW receive power hydro-boost."
According to this, I should have hydro-boost, but I have vacuum...which
doesn't stop with a load.
Did the specs change? My dealer still uses this book.
Lee Haefele

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 18:10:54 -0500
From: Sven Setterdahl
Subject: FTE 97up - Owner loyalty rebates

What are the requirement to get the loyalty rebate? Originally, I heard it was for people who own
a Ford that they bought new, but the commercials I've seen lately haven't been clear about that,
especially the offbreed commercials. Although I have owned two new Ford's in the past four years,
I currently drive a used one ('95 model). Anyone have the official guidelines, Nathan, to help
me out?

Thanks,

Sven

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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 20:38:07 -0500
From: "Roy E. Springer"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Owner loyalty rebates

Details at www.ford.com/incentive.html

This off a letter I got:

$500 to 1000 cash back on selected models purchased or leased during April
24 - July 2.
This includes F-Series trucks under 8500# GVWR at $500.

Eligible customers: all original owners of any new 1986-1998 model Ford,
Lincoln or Mercury vehicle, bought or leased new and still retained.

Offer valid only on new retail deliveries from dealer stock - during time
period above.

Roy

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> What are the requirement to get the loyalty rebate?
> Sven
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:05:18 EDT
From: Logerman aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: FTE 97up-97up questions

don't tell me I got more problems ahead. Only rough idle at this point. Ford
told me "thats the way it is". Only have 8500 miles to date, bought mine in
October.

Eric
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Date: Fri, 19 Jun 1998 23:06:08 EDT
From: Logerman aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: FTE 97up-97up questions

btw, what is engine slap

Eric
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1998 02:26:13 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 97up - ADMIN: New performance list

The Performance list is now working. This list is for performance
issues, all years are covered. Off-topic posts will be strictly
enforced with this list as I do not want it to take content away
from the other lists. If you want to talk about milage, towing,
looks, etc, post to the appropriate group. If you want to talk
about HP, torque, hot-rodding, building strong engines, etc, then
this is the group (although these issues can be covered in the
existing groups too). This group was started so members can tap
into the vast knowledge base we have - some of which transcends
year/models.

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