97up-list-digest Saturday, June 13 1998 Volume 01 : Number 117



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - Super Crew Cab
Re: FTE 97up - Speedo repairs
Re: FTE 97up - Super Crew Cab
Re: FTE 97up - 99 Grill insert
FTE 97up - Fw: Aluminum wheels
FTE 97up - Re(2): 1999 F150 5.4 auto trans
FTE 97up - "hard brake pedal"
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Ford Contact
Re: FTE 97up - Re: Ford Contact

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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 08:24:37 EDT
From: RAMWORKER aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Crew Cab

In a message dated 6/11/98 10:35:06 PM Central Daylight Time, timb epix.net
writes:


it is a crew cab WITH an extended (or super) cab in addition to allow for
up to nine passengers. Is this correct? If this is true, what about
availability of extra half doors for the extended cab? >>

Hi List,

My first thought when I saw the thread title was the same, however, after
reading the description, I realized that this was incorrect, so I went to the
web site and checked. What I found was that the wheelbase does not change
with this option, so it can't be a Super Cab scabbed onto the back of a Crew
Cab. In my opinion, Ford should not confuse us poor dumb Dodge smucks with
this kind of terminology (Super Crew Cab). The description on the web site
was pretty poor, but it is a new option, I hope to hear more about it soon.

Best Regards,
Robert Stout
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 09:02:45 -0400
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Speedo repairs

I'd like to say something here. Check your local laws, and get it repaired if at all
possible. Here's a little personal experience:

In '94 I bought a brand new Ranger 4x2, Supercab, 4.0, XLT. After about a year it
developed a problem with the speedometer. Around 65mph it would occasionally jump up
about 10mph for several minutes, then fall back down. You could faintly here a
rubbing noise, which I assume was the magnet rubbing the cup. Anyway, I just dealt
with it until '96 at 35,000 miles. I took it in and when I went to pick it up it was
told they had to replace the speedo. So I'm like, "All right.". I get in my truck
and the speedo says "000000". I get back out and start asking questions. I was told
that by law, in the state of Ohio, no one can roll an odometer. So they have to put
in replacements reading at zero. He then showed me a sticker they put in the door
jam that read, "This vehicle is equipped with a replacement odometer. The mileage at
the time of replacement was:xxxxx and the date:xxxxxx". Also I learned that all
replacement odometers have red numerals on a white background for the tenths. I
thought all was well.

When I went to trade my truck in (on the one I have now), I couldn't get squat for
it. I called banks, other dealers, and even my attorney. I was just screwed. The
reason why is two part: 1. Ohio will not allow you to roll new replacement odometers
forward to match the old one they are replacing. They must read dead zero. 2. on
Ohio titles, you have to check one of two options, a) My odometer reads the actual
mileage of the vehicle, or b) Mileage is unknown.

By law I had to claim mileage unknown even though I knew the correction and it was
posted on the door. It cut the value of my vehicle in half.

So just check it out first so you don't get screwed like I did.

Chad

Lee Haefele wrote:

> Does anyone know where/if I can get a 96 Windstar speedometer repaired?
> Replacement is $235. My mechanic says these die regularily.
> Lee Haefele
>
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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 08:26:28 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Crew Cab

It will be just a Crew cab (no super cab attached). It will have 4 bucket
seats. DRW only (from what the computer says) due to the 19.5" wheels.

Nathan
- -----Original Message-----
From: Tim B
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, June 11, 1998 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Super Crew Cab


> No where can I find a description of this thing except from guessing that
> it is a crew cab WITH an extended (or super) cab in addition to allow for
> up to nine passengers. Is this correct? If this is true, what about
> availability of extra half doors for the extended cab? That would be very
> cool. Using the builder on the Ford site it only appears on the F350 crew
> cabs with dual rear wheels. Anyonw know if it will be available in a
> single rear wheel drive truck?
>
> If I can order a F250 Super Crew, short bed, V10 I might be FORCED to
>trade
> in my '96 dodge.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Tim B


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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 08:28:53 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 Grill insert

I've had one customer do this (after braking his old grille) and he put in
an Expedition grille. It looks very similar but just different enough that
it makes you think about whats different when you meet the truck. I
guessing that the Expedition grille will be slightly different again next
year so you might try that.

Nathan Bernard
Union Auto, Inc.

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From: Jack Bowell
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, June 11, 1998 10:36 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 Grill insert


>After reading a lot of information in the list, on the web, and from the 99
>ordering guide, I have succumb to the fact that the 99 F-150 XLT 2wd will
>only come with the "egg crate" style grill verse's the "mesh" or
"honeycomb"
>style found in the special appearance packages from the 97/98 model year.
>The mesh style will only come on the 4wd and Lariat editions. That being
>said has anyone changed this out on their 97 or 98 model? My plans are to
>change the grill from the egg crate style to the mesh as soon as my 99
>arrives (Aug/Sep). I know some of you might say why did you get if you
>don't like it, but $$$ was the main factor and I couldn't let something
that
>seems so simple to swap out stop me.
>
>If anyone has ordered one from Ford and aftermarket (if available) please
>let me know. Also, if one might want to give me some ideas about how to do
>it I would greatly appreciate it.
>
>Jack B


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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 15:41:34 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: FTE 97up - Fw: Aluminum wheels

I wrote in to Ford's Dr.. Horace Power for about the SD aluminum wheels and
got this response.

- -----Original Message-----

Subject: Aluminum wheels


E107

Doctor, on the 1999 SD who is making the aluminum wheels? Is it
Alcoa? Also are the Deluxe and premium aluminum wheels forged or
cast? Thanks. -- Nathan Bernard, Union Auto e-mail:
unionaut adiis.net

Nathan,

According to Ford Truck Engineering, the aluminum wheels are made by
Alcoa, and they are forged.

Your F-Super Duty Ordering Guides show Option 64F as forged (although
"forged" is not listed in some F-Super Duty Ordering Guides; the
aluminum wheels are forged). Option 64S is a forged wheel as well.

Thanks for your questions; keep them coming! Good Selling!



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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 14:45:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Keith F.
Subject: FTE 97up - Re(2): 1999 F150 5.4 auto trans

Hmmm, let's see if I understand this:
The F150 5.4L has "significantly increased power and
torque" for '99, yet Ford use the weaker gearbox as
there is a delivery issue with the stronger gearbox.
Methinks Ford should fix the cause, not the symptom!

Thanks for the replies Nathan and Russell.

Keith F. - keithf rocketmail.com

> Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 1999 F150 5.4 auto trans
>
> The 4r70W will be the transmission used on the 5.4L F-150
> for 1999 (except California emissions). The E4OD shortage
> was one of the main reasons that the 5.4L was hard to get
> for 98. The 4R70W isn't rated for as much power as
> the E4OD but is still a better transmission than what Dodge
> and Chevy offer so I wouldn't worry about having problems.
> If an E4OD is a must it is still available on the F-250 LD.
>
> Nathan Bernard
> - -----Original Message-----
> >From: Keith F.
> >
> >Hi All
> >Have just changed my '98 F150 5.4 V8 order to a '99 but
> >have the following problem:
> >My '98 F150 5.4 order had the 44E auto trans.
> >My dealer says the 44E auto trans for '99 F150 5.4 orders
> >can only be ordered with California emissions.
> >Therefore as I live in Texas, I'm only able to order the
> >44U auto trans with the '99 F150 5.4.
> >The 44U is the "smaller" auto trans, normally ordered with
> >the 4.6.
> >I'd like to order the "stronger" 44E auto trans for towing,
> >offroad work, etc with my 5.4.
> >Has Ford botched, or am I missing something?
> >All replies appreciated! KeithF - keithf rocketmail.com


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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 05:11:13 -0700
From: Lee Haefele
Subject: FTE 97up - "hard brake pedal"

My 99 F350 4X4 DRW V10 cab chassis has a very hard brake pedal. This
truck has vacuum booster, early info that I used to order specified
"hydro-vac". Problem is worst when brakes are cold (I roll right past
the end of driveway, mornings), but still, truck requires too much pedal
pressure to stop fast, when warm. Are others this way?
Lee Haefele


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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 21:59:26 -0700
From: Bob Illingworth
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Ford Contact


Good luck Tom:
I contacted my dealer then the zone rep with no satisfaction so I contacted
customer service. They referred me to the zone rep and said I had to solve
the problem there.
It's a big CIRCLE JERK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tom Fitzsimmons wrote:
Hello! IM have problems getting my Explore fixed!

I would like some info on contacting some one in ford higher up!

Thanks for your help...

You can also email me at  tfitz cyberramp.net

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Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 22:01:44 -0700
From: Bob Illingworth
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: Ford Contact


Sorry.
The air ride is $1000.00 plus installation. Worth every penny plus
some dollars too.

Tom Fitzsimmons wrote:
Hello! IM have problems getting my Explore fixed!

I would like some info on contacting some one in ford higher up!

Thanks for your help...

You can also email me at  tfitz cyberramp.net

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