97up-list-digest Tuesday, June 9 1998 Volume 01 : Number 113



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 97up - XLT
Re: FTE 97up - 99 F-150 Photos
FTE 97up - Re: 99 SD 550 Mileage
Re: FTE 97up - Re: 99 SD 550 mileage
RE: FTE 97up - Engine Knock on 97 Expedtion
Re: FTE 97up - 99 F-150 Photos
Re: FTE 97up - 99 F-150 Photos
FTE 97up - FTE in V8 Times Magazine
FTE 97up - cab leak
FTE 97up - Passenger SRS on Super Duty
FTE 97up - 1999 Pics
RE: FTE 97up - cab leak
Re: FTE 97up - 99 F-150 Photos
Re: FTE 97up - 99 F-150 Photos
FTE 97up - Super Crew Cab Package
Re: FTE 97up - Quality
Re: FTE 97up - 1999 Pics
FTE 97up - Re: Cooper Tires
> FTE 97up - 99 Super Duty Wheels - Cast/Forged
Re: FTE 97up - Quality

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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:03:18 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - XLT

What wheels does it have? also is it 4x4 or 4x2? Their are a lot of
regional Special appearance packages so it is probably one of these.

Nathan Bernard

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From: Manuel Ziegler


>Does anyone know what the option "XLT special appearance package" mean on
>the window sticker of a 1998 reg cab. Does this have anything to do with
>colored keyed head light bezel or colored keyed mirrors. Is this a limited
>option on some XLT's ordered.


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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 08:15:41 -0500
From: "Union Auto"
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 F-150 Photos

I'll try to find a scanner and get the picture out of the ordering guide.
It looks very similar to last year with a slightly revised grille and
bumper.

Nathan

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From: Jack Bowell
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sunday, June 07, 1998 8:51 PM
Subject: FTE 97up - 99 F-150 Photos


>Can anyone remember what issue of AutoWeek had a spy photo of the new 99
>F-150 in it earlier this year? I believe it was after the Detroit Auto
>Show.
>
>Or does anyone know where to find any sneak pixs of the "slightly" restyled
>truck?
>
>Jack


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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 09:37:48 EDT
From: JDavis1277 aol.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Re: 99 SD 550 Mileage

Bob,
Clearly you have a mileage problem!!! Assume you are running the PSD? What
gearing (diff & trans)? The only thing I can figure is a malfunction in the
fuel delivery system, but if your dealer can't figure it out with the
computer, I'd look at another dealer. Have you checked out
www.abol.com/users/jlester/? This is Jason Lester's Ford Diesel site and has
a ton of good info. Apparently there is a chat feature you can use, but I
haven't tried it. If you get this thing figured out, please let us know the
outcome. Thanks and good luck, Butch Davis-
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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 06:48:45 -0700
From: WiNk
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - Re: 99 SD 550 mileage

I had a friend that bought a brand new Mazda 6 cylinder. He had a gas
problem only when he drove for awhile. Long story to short story. The
PCV valve got stuck after the thaing warmed up. His mileage was worse
than yours. They changed the PCV valve and mileage climbed. It took a
factory rep to find the problem, and only after many days of screwing
around with the thing. The valve may not be your problem, however it is
food for thought. BTW! and as I recall the story, the valve also sucked
oil through it contaminating the engine sensors.


Bob Illingworth wrote:

> I have a simple mileage check I have used for years. I had a 1993
> Chevy 6.5 Crew Cab 4X4 Dually. I put 10,000 Lbs on it and drove 530
> miles and put in 32 gals +/- 1gal of fuel. I did this for 5 years.
> I recently purchased a Ford SD 550, I drive it empty 7500 lbs. 2400
> RPM, same as the 6.5 and I only go 265 miles before putting in 32
> gals. of fuel. The Ford computer check says all systems are OK.
> I recently made a trip towing a trailet and grossed 21,500 lbs and got
> the same mileage. 268 miles, 32 gals. fuel.
> What's wrong with this picture?????????????
> Can any one help?????????????????
>
> Bob I.
>
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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1998 08:47:41 -0700
From: Jay Murphy
Subject: RE: FTE 97up - Engine Knock on 97 Expedtion

I had the exact problem and Ford replaced the 5.4 L engine in my 97 f150 at
8,000 miles. As you can imagine, I wasn't too happy at having the engine
> replaced, but haven't had any engine related problems since. They (Ford)
told me that mine was only the 12th or 13th such engine problem (piston
slap they called it) they had had with the 97 5.4 L, which was January 1998.
Sounds like there may be a few more.

By the way, I initially demanded a new truck which Ford rejected, but they
did give me a premium warranty, 6 year - 75,000 miles. All in all, I feel
satisfied that Ford took decent care of my problem. Now........ if I could
just get rid of the rough idle, exhaust ticking and a few other annoying
little problems, life would be perfect.


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From: owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com
[mailto:owner-97up-list ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Morgan
Sent: Thursday, June 04, 1998 6:17 PM
To: 97up-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 97up - Engine Knock on 97 Expedtion


On a previous post from Mark Lee, he was experiencing what Ford calls
"Cold Start Knock". It's primarly a 5.4L problem, but is/has occurred with
the 4.6L. The 5.4L is built only at the Windsor plant and they also produce
the 4.6L. I suspect a problem of quality control, due to the huge demand for
the 5.4L in the F-250LD's, Expeditions, and Navigators. My 97 F-150 5.4L
started knocking at 1600 miles and continues(it's getting worse) at 16000
miles. I have been in contact with several 5.4L and one 4.6L owner with the
same problem. Two of these people had engines replaced and the knock
returned(one was a new engine from Windsor and the other a rebuilt from a
Ford vendor). The Windsor plant continues to say they are "working" on the
problem and not to worry---I'm worried! They do tell me I will get a new
engine when the "problem" is fixed.
Basically this is piston slap inside the cylinder caused by the short
skirt on the Triton piston and excessive clearance. It happens upon
start-up when the engine is "cold"(hasn't been run for several hours). After
3 to 5 minutes at idle, the piston(s) warm up and expand to "fill" the hole.
The knocking sound is a very distinct rattle somewhat like a deisel engine.
Mine seems to be coming from 2 or 3 clyinders. I'd like to hear from others
on this situation.
Dennis Morgan 406-265-2711 (office)
Havre, MT 406-265-2358 (home)

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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:07:20 EDT
From: KWkM3 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 F-150 Photos

I saw a picture of the expedition with the new front end and im glad i already
have one. it looks like the explorer now IMHO. im pretty sure the 150 will get
the same treatment.

Harry
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Date: Mon, 8 Jun 1998 12:10:12 EDT
From: KWkM3 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 97up - 99 F-150 Photos

BTW doesnt look like they did much more than change the grill and maybe the
bumper a little.....

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