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Return-Path: From: fordtrucks80up-digest-request Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 01:32:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: t3.media3.net: lof set sender to fordtrucks80up-digest-request Subject: fordtrucks80up-digest Digest V97 #12 X-Loop: fordtrucks80up-digest X-Mailing-List: archive/volume97/12 To: fordtrucks80up-digest Reply-To: fordtrucks80up ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain fordtrucks80up-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 12 Today's Topics: Re: Stock T-case and axles [Radu Lykan Adding Fuel Injection to a '83 351W [onnie lynn winebarger Re: Adding Fuel Injection to a '83 3 [Kevin Bristol ] 1981 F-100 transmission [Christopher Scott Kram Re: Adding Fuel Injection to a '83 3 [Joe Chiasson Re: Adding Fuel Injection to a '83 3 [Radu Lykan Re: ford truck offered to me to pur [trichard3 "Ford don't never" [cableeng "Ford don't never" -Reply [BARRY PRICE Rust busting old parts -- ["chita" ] Squeaky Steering Wheel [PDupont105 '87 Bronco II Rear Antilock Light/Te [PDupont105 Re: '87 Bronco II Rear Antilock Ligh [Gardner ] 1992 F150 Flareside Electrical [Ken Payne ] Ford Truckin' magazine - F100 specia ["chita" ] Re: 1992 F150 Flareside Electrical [Mark Ponsford ] Re: Adding Fuel Injection to a '83 3 [trichard3 Re: '87 Bronco II Rear Antilock Ligh [Randy Zeilinger Re: 1992 F150 Flareside Electrical [Randy Zeilinger Administrivia: ____________________________________________________________________ Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-digest-request Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne ____________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 18:14:06 -0800 From: Radu Lykan To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: Stock T-case and axles Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:07 PM 5/26/97 EDT, you wrote: >Check our new domain names! >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.netforward.com >v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v > > i have a friend who wants to sell his f 150 , 1990 with 148,000 miles >xlt king cab . what is it worth? What condition is the truck in? ============================================================================ ======= The ULTIMATE Duke Nukem 3D: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5290 The Xena Page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/2050 Ben Markert Lord Radu Lykan, The Collector "If it makes you feel good, do it!" "Power is absolute. Power is corrupting. Absolute power corrupst absolutely." "Act. Don't react." - Xena "What a wonderful thing Humanity is. Passoinate, intelligent, noble of spirit and above all.....Delicious." - LaCroix PROUD Ford owner: 1982 F-250 300 I-6 4on the floor, name: Lila. E-Mail:timberwolf radulykan ============================================================================ ======= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 22:42:25 -0500 (EST) From: onnie lynn winebarger To: fordtruck Subject: Adding Fuel Injection to a '83 351W Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to take components from a later engine and just put them in? The engine is '84 or '85. What would I need? Intake manifold, the injectors, the computer - anything else? I'm pretty much a novice, so any help would be appreciated. TIA Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 23:47:50 +0000 From: Kevin Bristol To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: Adding Fuel Injection to a '83 351W Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit onnie lynn winebarger wrote: > > Is it possible to take components from a later engine and > just put them in? The engine is '84 or '85. What would I need? > Intake manifold, the injectors, the computer - anything else? > I'm pretty much a novice, so any help would be appreciated. > > TIA > Lynn > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne nope that pretty much does it ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 00:06:23 -0400 From: Christopher Scott Kram To: fordtrucks80up-digest Subject: 1981 F-100 transmission Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I have a 1981 F-100 (300 cui I-6) with a 3 speed overdrive transmission and I have another '81 F-100 for parts. The parted F-100 transmission has a broken upper gear (reverse) and I want to repair it to have a spare transmission. Does anyone know how to remove the upper gears, and where I might be able to get a illustrated parts breakdown or good visual reference on Ford transmissions? Any manual I've looked in doesn't cover or barely overviews transmissions. I'd like to replace the necessary gears but I don't want to force anything and damage anything else on it. I'd appreciate any info. Chris K. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 07:13:55 -0700 From: Joe Chiasson To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: Adding Fuel Injection to a '83 351W Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit onnie lynn winebarger wrote: > > Is it possible to take components from a later engine and > just put them in? The engine is '84 or '85. What would I need? > Intake manifold, the injectors, the computer - anything else? > I'm pretty much a novice, so any help would be appreciated. > > TIA > Lynn > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne Don't forget to check the little things. Check to make sure throttle cable is the same length, switch any sensors (coolant etc.) over. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 18:08:26 -0800 From: Radu Lykan To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: Adding Fuel Injection to a '83 351W Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:13 AM 5/27/97 -0700, you wrote: >Check our new domain names! >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.netforward.com >v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v > >onnie lynn winebarger wrote: >> >> Is it possible to take components from a later engine and >> just put them in? The engine is '84 or '85. What would I need? >> Intake manifold, the injectors, the computer - anything else? >> I'm pretty much a novice, so any help would be appreciated. >> >> TIA >> Lynn >> >> ____________________________________________________________________ >> Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ >> For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-request >> Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne > > Don't forget to check the little things. Check to make sure >throttle cable is the same length, switch any sensors (coolant etc.) >over. > Joe > > >____________________________________________________________________ >Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ >For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-request >Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne > > > why put fuel injection in a carburated engine? Fuel injectors mess uo a lot, they get clogged borken, ect. ect.. ============================================================================ ======= The ULTIMATE Duke Nukem 3D: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/5290 The Xena Page: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/2050 Ben Markert Lord Radu Lykan, The Collector "If it makes you feel good, do it!" "Power is absolute. Power is corrupting. Absolute power corrupst absolutely." "Act. Don't react." - Xena "What a wonderful thing Humanity is. Passoinate, intelligent, noble of spirit and above all.....Delicious." - LaCroix PROUD Ford owner: 1982 F-250 300 I-6 4on the floor, name: Lila. E-Mail:timberwolf radulykan ============================================================================ ======= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 22:24:16 EDT From: trichard3 To: fordtrucks80up Cc: trichard Subject: Re: ford truck offered to me to purchase :requesting opinion from all members in 48 hours. Message-ID: THE F150 IS NOT IN EXCELLENT CONDITION. T HE BODY NEEDS PAINT , A LIGHT STAYS ON SAYING CHECK ENGINE, AND IT 'S GAS GUAGE NEEDS REPAIR. THE LIGHT COVER INTERIOR IS OFF. THE RADIO DOES NOT PICKUP AM , AND MAYBE OTHER PROBLEMS. I WANTED THAT TRUCK , BUT MY BUYER SAID NO. WHAT DO YOU THINK? ESTIMATE REPAIR COST AND WHOLE SALE VALUE. REGARDS TAR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 12:58:33 -0500 From: cableeng To: fordtrucks80up Subject: "Ford don't never" Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I want to install dual exhausts on an 80-F150 351w. I'm told that Ford has never put duals on their pickups. True? I live in Virginia and state inspections are tuff to get around, any suggestions (no, don't want to split after muffler or any of that other make do stuff, I want the efficiency and torque of a true dual system). Can one of you EPA types comment, I want to use headers, twin converters and mufflers. Now, Aint dis cleaner dan de ol'factory singel pipe? Looks like there should be a way for a guy to accomplish this without joining Tim McVay and crew (Its just a bad joke, OK). Douglas Minnick, WD4BSB Television Engineer Va Tech University 204 Saunders Hall Blacksburg, Va. 24061-0307 cableeng ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 13:29:52 -0400 From: BARRY PRICE To: fordtrucks80up Subject: "Ford don't never" -Reply Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline I don't know what the laws in Virginia are concerning state inspections of vehicles, but I have a 80 Ford Ranger King Cab that I am doing the same thing with. I have been in contact with the state of Georgia emissions office and they claim that if I have duel converters and pass the emissions test that I will have no problems. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 12:21:00 -0700 From: "chita" To: Subject: Rust busting old parts -- Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you've been looking for a source for this legendary "c/rust buster," I finally found them -- Kano Labs, in Tennessee: (800) 211-1373 They've got a Squirt Special on right now, which includes a gallon of AeroKroil, a 10 oz. aerosol and a hand held trigger spray for $27.20, which includes shipping. I wondered why so many people spoke in reverent tones about this stuff - yet I couldn't find it anywhere. It's because Kano Labs normally is an industrial supplier and they deal direct. Their reputation was built on AeroKroil, used in the aircraft industry. With the ability to sneak into spaces as small as one millionth of an inch, it really can penetrate crusty parts. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 15:50:48 -0400 (EDT) From: PDupont105 To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Squeaky Steering Wheel Message-ID: The steering column to my '88 Taurus is beginning to squeak when I turn corners. Is anyone familiar with the type of lubrication required to correct this? Will removing the two screws which hold the steering wheel in place allow me easy access to the steering column without disturbing the cruise control components (electrical) housed within the steering wheel itself? Any tips would be greatly appreciated! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 15:57:55 -0400 (EDT) From: PDupont105 To: fordtrucks80up Subject: '87 Bronco II Rear Antilock Light/Temperature Gauge Message-ID: My '87 Bronco II's Rear Antilock dashboard light stays lit even though there is nothing wrong with the rear antilock. I've had this checked out by several mechanics and they all agree that there is nothing wrong with the braking system. Has anyone heard of such a thing? ALSO My Temperature gauge recently stopped working. How do I determine what needs to be replaced to correct this? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 16:16:13 -0500 From: Gardner To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: '87 Bronco II Rear Antilock Light/Temperature Gauge Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PDupont105 > > My '87 Bronco II's Rear Antilock dashboard light stays lit even though there > is nothing wrong with the rear antilock. I've had this checked out by > several mechanics and they all agree that there is nothing wrong with the > braking system. Has anyone heard of such a thing? > ALSO > My Temperature gauge recently stopped working. How do I determine what needs > to be replaced to correct this? > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne checked by unplugging the wire from the sending unit and ground it on the truck somewhere if the gauge goes up the the gauge is fine and the sending unit is bad, more than likely this is the problem ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 16:16:00 -0400 From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks80up Subject: 1992 F150 Flareside Electrical Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 11:14:11 -0700 From: "Nancy J. Davis" Reply-To: nancyjd To: fordtruck80up Subject: 1992 F-150 Flareside Electrical Read with interest the problem with the Bronco battery. Consider yourself lucky, thus far, if you can get the battery to last two years. I'm still trying to find the cause and solution to an electrical problem I'm having with my 1992 Ford F-150 Flareside. Bought it used in 1995, with original battery. It was/is a beauty of a truck (looks like brand new). Anyway, the battery has died on us 15 times since early February. We've put in five (5) batteries since November, 1996 (Replaced the original 1992 battery in May of 1996). It's been at two Ford dealerships and a Unocal Mechanic, all who can't find the problem. The Ford Dealership checked the charging system, extensively. They told us it was the aftermarket alarm system, so we had it taken out, and a Ford approved keyless entry system installed by one of their vendors. (Of course, the doors now lock automatically after about 5 minutes.... with the engine off.... which we don't think it should do, should it? They even took out 10 fuses (including the one that lights up the dashlights, blinkers, etc.) and had us drive the truck without them. It didn't even last 5 days before the battery died again. They gave us back the truck saying, "Yep, you have a big problem, it's even died on us, but we don't know what the problem is or how to fix it.". Calling Ford's Hotline has been fruitless, other than to document the information. They suggested we try a different dealership, which we just did. (The first dealership has been trying to find the problem since Feb. 2, 1997, and they've had the truck more than we have!) The most recent Ford Dealership, after less than 24 hours, said "It's the Alternator".... which of course, we'd already replaced in May, 1996, along with the Ignition switch.... so, we said "okay, right.... everyone else tested the alternator and said it was fine.... but if YOU think that's the problem, replace it, and guarantee it'll fix the problem or you'll give us our money back...." They agreed, so now we're waiting to see how long the truck will run. Anyone with any similiar problems, insight for PROPER solution and repair, answers as to whether or not the keyless entry systems should automatically lock the doors after 5 or 10 minutes or so... would love to hear from you! nancyjd ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 14:04:15 -0700 From: "chita" To: Subject: Ford Truckin' magazine - F100 special Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suppose this is old news to most of you, but I just found the Summer issue of Ford Truckin' magazine and on pages 27 and 58-59 are two of the most beautiful trucks I've ever seen. Page 27 is "White Diamond," a truck SO WHITE, I think they must have airbrushed a shadow under the picture. Page 58 - "White Lightning." A beautiful three color paint job. It looks all dressed up blacktie, white on the bottom, black on the top, a couple of accents in mint green. The interior is very retro/flapper, Deco. Totally sanitary. It has approximately half the world's supply of chrome under the hood. I've never owned a white truck. Seeing these two - I'm tempted. (Whoops - I just noticed I've got this going to the 80s-and-up list. I'm not sure how to crosspost. Be warned - these are older trucks. This issue is the F-100 special.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 14:56:02 -0800 From: Mark Ponsford To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: 1992 F150 Flareside Electrical Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 11:14:11 -0700 >From: "Nancy J. Davis" >Reply-To: nancyjd >To: fordtruck80up >Subject: 1992 F-150 Flareside Electrical > >Read with interest the problem with the Bronco battery. Consider >yourself lucky, thus far, if you can get the battery to last two years. > >I'm still trying to find the cause and solution to an electrical problem >I'm having with my 1992 Ford F-150 Flareside. Bought it used in 1995, >with original battery. It was/is a beauty of a truck (looks like brand >new). > >Anyway, the battery has died on us 15 times since early February. We've >put in five (5) batteries since November, 1996 (Replaced the original >1992 battery in May of 1996). It's been at two Ford dealerships and a >Unocal Mechanic, all who can't find the problem. The Ford Dealership >checked the charging system, extensively. They told us it was the >aftermarket alarm system, so we had it taken out, and a Ford approved >keyless entry system installed by one of their vendors. (Of course, the >doors now lock automatically after about 5 minutes.... with the engine >off.... which we don't think it should do, should it? > >They even took out 10 fuses (including the one that lights up the >dashlights, blinkers, etc.) and had us drive the truck without them. It >didn't even last 5 days before the battery died again. They gave us >back the truck saying, "Yep, you have a big problem, it's even died on >us, but we don't know what the problem is or how to fix it.". Calling >Ford's Hotline has been fruitless, other than to document the >information. They suggested we try a different dealership, which we >just did. (The first dealership has been trying to find the problem >since Feb. 2, 1997, and they've had the truck more than we have!) > >The most recent Ford Dealership, after less than 24 hours, said "It's >the Alternator".... which of course, we'd already replaced in May, 1996, >along with the Ignition switch.... so, we said "okay, right.... everyone >else tested the alternator and said it was fine.... but if YOU think >that's the problem, replace it, and guarantee it'll fix the problem or >you'll give us our money back...." They agreed, so now we're waiting to >see how long the truck will run. > >Anyone with any similiar problems, insight for PROPER solution and >repair, answers as to whether or not the keyless entry systems should >automatically lock the doors after 5 or 10 minutes or so... would love >to hear from you! > >nancyjd > I've got an intermitent problem with my '88 F150 that might possibly be the same problem with yours. I've noticed that from time to time my electric fuel pump continues to run after I park. When this happens, I pop the engine hood and hit the relay packs sitting right behind the air cleaner. Aparently, one of the two relays is sticking but I have yet to figure out which one. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Ponsford Systems/Electronics Technician Rm. 407 - McPherson Library Tel: (250) 721-7397 University of Victoria Fax: (250) 721-8215 Victoria, B.C. Canada V8W 3H5 E-mail: mponsfor ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 18:47:07 EDT From: trichard3 To: fordtrucks80up Cc: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: Adding Fuel Injection to a '83 351W Message-ID: why not get a new truck? tar you deserve it at this time . from 1990 to 97 . think about it. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:23:51 -0400 From: Randy Zeilinger To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: '87 Bronco II Rear Antilock Light/Temperature Gauge Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PDupont105 > > My '87 Bronco II's Rear Antilock dashboard light stays lit even though there > is nothing wrong with the rear antilock. I've had this checked out by > several mechanics and they all agree that there is nothing wrong with the > braking system. Has anyone heard of such a thing? > ALSO > My Temperature gauge recently stopped working. How do I determine what needs > to be replaced to correct this? > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Message distributed via http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lofcom.com/ > For help send subject "HELP" to:fordtrucks80up-request > Comments and suggestions are welcome, use: kpayne It happened on my 1990 F-150. The problem was that the bottom part of the sending unit came loose from the top part. New unit the light went out. There was never anything wrong with the anti-lock. Same may be true for the temp. Randy Z. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:27:16 -0400 From: Randy Zeilinger To: fordtrucks80up Subject: Re: 1992 F150 Flareside Electrical Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ken Payne wrote: > > Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 11:14:11 -0700 > From: "Nancy J. Davis" > Reply-To: nancyjd > To: fordtruck80up > Subject: 1992 F-150 Flareside Electrical > > Read with interest the problem with the Bronco battery. Consider > yourself lucky, thus far, if you can get the battery to last two years. > > I'm still trying to find the cause and solution to an electrical problem > I'm having with my 1992 Ford F-150 Flareside. Bought it used in 1995, > with original battery. It was/is a beauty of a truck (looks like brand > new). > > Anyway, the battery has died on us 15 times since early February. We've > put in five (5) batteries since November, 1996 (Replaced the original > 1992 battery in May of 1996). It's been at two Ford dealerships and a > Unocal Mechanic, all who can't find the problem. The Ford Dealership > checked the charging system, extensively. They told us it was the > aftermarket alarm system, so we had it taken out, and a Ford approved > keyless entry system installed by one of their vendors. (Of course, the > doors now lock automatically after about 5 minutes.... with the engine > off.... which we don't think it should do, should it? > > They even took out 10 fuses (including the one that lights up the > dashlights, blinkers, etc.) and had us drive the truck without them. It > didn't even last 5 days before the battery died again. They gave us > back the truck saying, "Yep, you have a big problem, it's even died on > us, but we don't know what the problem is or how to fix it.". Calling > Ford's Hotline has been fruitless, other than to document the > information. They suggested we try a different dealership, which we > just did. (The first dealership has been trying to find the problem > since Feb. 2, 1997, and they've had the truck more than we have!) > > The most recent Ford Dealership, after less than 24 hours, said "It's > the Alternator".... which of course, we'd already replaced in May, 1996, > along with the Ignition switch.... so, we said "okay, right.... everyone > else tested the alternator and said it was fine.... but if YOU think > that's the problem, replace it, and guarantee it'll fix the problem or > you'll give us our money back...." They agreed, so now we're waiting to.... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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